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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:46 am
So I need some very serious advice on this one guys.Very serious.
For sixteen years I have been raised a Roman catholic because that's what my father has been all his life. I went to all the ccd classes, got baptised when I was a baby and did my First Holy Communion when I was like ten. But now it's finally the day when All the classes end and I'm getting Confirmed... later today actually.
But here's the thing. There really isn't any strict religion going on on my mother side, but all of my fathers side are Roman Catholic and I have to say I'm much closer to them. The only one who isn't Catholic in my closer family would be my mother. But this whole confirmation thing has really just been a show to make my family happy.
I know if I tell my dad I am no longer a Catholic after today, he will probably disown me, but I have to. I can't keep going to the services when just dont believe.
I still have my faith in God and Jesus. They're my best friends. But I don't believe in Catholicism.
What I mean to say is, how do I tell my dad? How do I tell him I don't want to be what he has raised me as for the past sixteen years? This is a really heavy subject and I could use some advice.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:33 am
platsdevil I still have my faith in God and Jesus.
That right there should set you at ease on how you stand with the big guys upstairs. As for your dad. He's your father. Hes changed your diaper, fed you, put a roof over your head. Heck, he impregnated your mom to have you. You are his gift from god. Plus he married your mommy and shes not a Catholic, that should say something about him.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:35 am
tina138 platsdevil I still have my faith in God and Jesus.
That right there should set you at ease on how you stand with the big guys upstairs. As for your dad. He's your father. Hes changed your diaper, fed you, put a roof over your head. Heck, he impregnated your mom to have you. You are his gift from god. Plus he married your mommy and shes not a Catholic, that should say something about him. I know how much he's done for me, but I've always tried never to dissapoint him. It's almost impossible never to dissapoint someone, but I feel like this is something I need to do. Thanks. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:38 am
3nodding I help out where I can, even in religious matters...even though I'm agnostic. gonk
Hopefully one of us passing by will be able to give the advice you are looking for.
EDIT: You know my father changed his religion to be able to marry my mother. I never really thought to ask how his side of the family took it though.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:50 am
To me, all forms of Christianity are the same. I'm defined as just a plain christian, but I'll go to a Catholic church or a Baptist church. We all believe in the same things and the same God. Your father should be able to see that, he sounds like a smart guy. And something tells me he will still love no matter what branch of Christianity you are. (:
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:53 am
platsdevil So I need some very serious advice on this one guys.Very serious.
For sixteen years I have been raised a Roman catholic because that's what my father has been all his life. I went to all the ccd classes, got baptised when I was a baby and did my First Holy Communion when I was like ten. But now it's finally the day when All the classes end and I'm getting Confirmed... later today actually.
But here's the thing. There really isn't any strict religion going on on my mother side, but all of my fathers side are Roman Catholic and I have to say I'm much closer to them. The only one who isn't Catholic in my closer family would be my mother. But this whole confirmation thing has really just been a show to make my family happy.
I know if I tell my dad I am no longer a Catholic after today, he will probably disown me, but I have to. I can't keep going to the services when just dont believe.
I still have my faith in God and Jesus. They're my best friends. But I don't believe in Catholicism.
What I mean to say is, how do I tell my dad? How do I tell him I don't want to be what he has raised me as for the past sixteen years? This is a really heavy subject and I could use some advice. I underatnd what your saying my classes are soming to an end (Im in a Roman Catholic school) And I'm the only kid in my class NOT Catholic, Im agnostic. Both my parents are Cristian and I told them, they still love me. They didnt make a big deal about it ^^
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:57 am
werdofilms platsdevil So I need some very serious advice on this one guys.Very serious.
For sixteen years I have been raised a Roman catholic because that's what my father has been all his life. I went to all the ccd classes, got baptised when I was a baby and did my First Holy Communion when I was like ten. But now it's finally the day when All the classes end and I'm getting Confirmed... later today actually.
But here's the thing. There really isn't any strict religion going on on my mother side, but all of my fathers side are Roman Catholic and I have to say I'm much closer to them. The only one who isn't Catholic in my closer family would be my mother. But this whole confirmation thing has really just been a show to make my family happy.
I know if I tell my dad I am no longer a Catholic after today, he will probably disown me, but I have to. I can't keep going to the services when just dont believe.
I still have my faith in God and Jesus. They're my best friends. But I don't believe in Catholicism.
What I mean to say is, how do I tell my dad? How do I tell him I don't want to be what he has raised me as for the past sixteen years? This is a really heavy subject and I could use some advice. I underatnd what your saying my classes are soming to an end (Im in a Roman Catholic school) And I'm the only kid in my class NOT Catholic, Im agnostic. Both my parents are Cristian and I told them, they still love me. They didnt make a big deal about it ^^ My whole family is a little psycho about this kind of stuff. Most likely if I do tell my father, he'll get really mad and then try to make me argue my way into a corner. He's a lawyer. You don't know how many time he's made me feel stupid because he can argue so well...XD I love him anyway and i'll keep myself out of that corner. Thanks for the advice guys. I'm still a little unsure, but I feel more sure of myself, if that makes any sense. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:55 am
I'm not a very good catholic. I always considered it a social background more than an actual religion, cause my opinions differ the church in alot of ways, but that shouldn't mean I'm not catholic. I came from a very open minded church, and I really do see it as we're allowed to have our own thoughts
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:45 am
What is it about Catholocism that are giving you so much trouble? When I left, it was the whole God and Jesus business, so I'm not sure where your biggest problems lie.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:50 am
Bioluminescent Sharpies To me, all forms of Christianity are the same. I'm defined as just a plain christian, but I'll go to a Catholic church or a Baptist church. We all believe in the same things and the same God. Your father should be able to see that, he sounds like a smart guy. And something tells me he will still love no matter what branch of Christianity you are. (: Different denominations of Christianity can differ greatly on belief and doctrine. The only thing they have in common is Jesus Christ, and even views on what Jesus thought and who he actually was can be hugely different. @platsdevil You should wait a few years, at least until you get a bit more independent. Arguing with parents is never a good idea.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:24 am
My first question would be this, you say you still have faith in God and Jesus Christ, so if not Catholicism what would you say your leaning more towards? Christian? Protestant? other?
Bottom line is you shouldn't have to hide and keep your true feelings on the matter a secret. I would talk to your father and tell him the truth. To me it's not about what you label yourself as, but what you believe that matters. You still believe, that is what matters most.
As for arguing with a lawyer, here is my favorite tactic if he wants to try and "Argue you into a corner." It's called the Colombo tactic. If you've ever seen the old T.V. series Colombo, the best way to handle situations like this would be to ask questions, put him on the defensive. "Why do I have to be Catholic?" "Why am I forced to be in this situation and not mom?" "Isn't what important that I still believe rather than what I label myself as?" Dr. Greg Koukl has a really good lecture on just this type of debating which I'm sure you can find online if your interested in learning more about it. But I've found it very useful in a debate/argument if your father really want to challenge you on the matter.
He may be angry at first, but with time I'm sure he'll grow to accept it and still love you regardless. My best friend is Catholic, while the closest thing I can relate myself to would probably be Protestant. (Though I really hate using labels myself) Be true to yourself.
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:05 am
Stay away from religion. Quit is as soon as you can, it can do nothing for you except give you a false peception of reality. No offence to your or your dad, but stick with your mom's side of things.
Mother knows best...
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:19 am
xXJustified_DeathXx Stay away from religion. Quit is as soon as you can, it can do nothing for you except give you a false peception of reality. No offence to your or your dad, but stick with your mom's side of things. Mother knows best... Well you seem to have a history with religion... care to share?...jk. I have no plans to be rash about my decision. I still haven't told him, but I either will or I'll chicken out. XD Thanks for all the advice everyone!
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:52 pm
You should be your own self no matter what. I believe in god and the bible but I am not catholic. I also went through confirmation. I go to a Methodist church. Your father cant tell you what to believe, only you can choose.
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 10:47 pm
platsdevil So I need some very serious advice on this one guys.Very serious. By now you may have told him but if not - What ever you do be true to yourself. Living a lie is not Catholicism either. If / when you do tell your dad tell him some of what you told us. Let him know your beliefs but also let him know your concern for him and that you care about his feelings and that is what is making the conversation hard. He probably won't like your choice but letting him know your concern for him and his feelings will soften it a bit.
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