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 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:04 pm
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/texas-legislature/headlines/20110217-texas-senate-passes-bill-to-require-sonogram-before-abortion1.ece
Basically... If this bill gets passed, women who seek abortion (victims of rape, incest, and those who abort because something is wrong with the fetus will be exempt from this) will be required to view a sonogram and listen to the heartbeat of the fetus prior to the abortion. The supporters of this bill are claiming it's to "inform" the woman seeking the procedure, but we all know it's just an appeal to emotion to try to get the woman to decide against the abortion at the last minute. I really don't see how viewing a fetus on a sonogram actually informs the woman of something she doesn't already know.
I also think it's kind of pointless, a waste of time and money. Most women have seen pictures of unborn babies on sonograms. If she's really made up her mind on getting an abortion, seeing another sonogram isn't gonna change anything. I can only see negative effects coming from this. Pregnant woman ponders situation for a long time. She figures that she's not in a good situation to have a baby, maybe because she's in college or doesn't have much money or simply can't handle a child/pregnancy. After much thought, she goes for the abortion. The idea that's really behind this bill is to get women to make a last minute decision to keep the pregnancy based entirely on emotional appeal, which can be very strong for some people. In the long run, that could really hurt the woman. I know it makes me sound like a heartless b***h, but ya gotta think with your brain and not with your heart, particularly when it comes to life-changing decisions like these...
Ugh... For a party that's against government healthcare because it forces the healthcare on the people, it's pretty weird that they're forcing a procedure on these women.
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:50 am
Just more evidence that pro-life supporters somehow feel that women are too stupid to know what they're doing when they seek an abortion and therefore must be stopped from making a "wrong" decision.
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:00 pm
Munkers Just more evidence that pro-life supporters somehow feel that women are too stupid to know what they're doing when they seek an abortion and therefore must be stopped from making a "wrong" decision. A form of benevolent sexism, perhaps? (it's an ironic term, kind of an oxymoron, I know) Using it to justify their beliefs and actions regarding abortion, maybe. I've heard the claim that much of the pro-life movement is driven by the idea that female sexuality should be punished, wondering more and more if that's true...
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:07 pm
Like I said in your thread, I wonder how much thought is given to how they'd actually enforce these idiotic rules. I mean, without breaching doctor/patient confidentiality or mounting massive sting operations for what will be, at best, misdemeanor offenses how do they intend to make sure abortion providers actually do this? I certainly cannot speak for all, especially given that I am in no way employed in any profession even vaguely related to medical care, but I know I wouldn't give a second thought to violating this. ''According to state law, you're required to undergo a sonogram and listen to the fetal heartbeat, if you choose not to, I'm required to describe it for you. So glad we got that out of the way, and wouldn't you know it? Our recording devices for the sonogram seem to be broken. Damn, we'll have to get that fixed one of these days...'
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:21 pm
marshmallowcreampie A form of benevolent sexism, perhaps? (it's an ironic term, kind of an oxymoron, I know) Using it to justify their beliefs and actions regarding abortion, maybe. I've heard the claim that much of the pro-life movement is driven by the idea that female sexuality should be punished, wondering more and more if that's true... It's not benevolent, it's paternalism and completely undermines the entire idea of informed consent and autonomy.
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:16 pm
Munkers marshmallowcreampie A form of benevolent sexism, perhaps? (it's an ironic term, kind of an oxymoron, I know) Using it to justify their beliefs and actions regarding abortion, maybe. I've heard the claim that much of the pro-life movement is driven by the idea that female sexuality should be punished, wondering more and more if that's true... It's not benevolent, it's paternalism and completely undermines the entire idea of informed consent and autonomy. See, that's why I called the term an oxymoron. It's what sexists do to justify their sexism, to say that they "truly care for women" and are only doing what's best for them because women and their weak bodies and tiny brains can't decide for or doing anything themselves.
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