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 Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:46 am
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:05 am
Quote: Remember, in their developmental years, most American kids are encouraged to swallow all sorts of fanciful tales -- such as the one about the rotund, jolly fellow who comes down chimneys each Christmas to deliver presents, or the one about the fairy who exchanges small change for baby teeth tucked under a child's pillow. Even in adulthood, Americans are fed lie after lie. xd It really doesn't surprise me that the average 7th-grader in this society accepts what they're told without questioning it; isn't that what the current educational system is all about? Quote: Instruction in truly critical thinking "does not and cannot happen in the way our schools are structured with their hierarchical power base that punishes thinking that differs from the status quo," Rose wrote. "For that reason . . . we can teach the process and skills of clearer thinking, but we can't teach them to think critically and apply those skills to the real worlds they live in. It goes against too many vested interests that fear their power will be diluted." An interest in real-world power sustained by the masses' inability to think critically?
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:11 am
I thought you might like this article.
Besides, how can a 7th grader be expected to figure out that their teacher is trying to trick them without some sort of previous experience?
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:15 am
Orphie I thought you might like this article. Besides, how can a 7th grader be expected to figure out that their teacher is trying to trick them without some sort of previous experience? Was it their teachers or a bunch of external researchers?
Cause the first time I was reading it, I thought it was their teachers, but now I am confuse. I mean, what kind of thought process would being misinformed by a teacher spark in a 12-year-old's brain? 'hey guys maybe they were lying about math too' 'hey guys maybe they're lying about EVERYTHING' 'well if they are why are we wasting our time in school' and then a hobo shows up and is like 'SCHOOL IS FOR FOOLS! Look at me!' and then they scream and run away. Yup, that's what we'd be reading about if they had used teachers.
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:19 am
Cabron the Swan Orphie I thought you might like this article. Besides, how can a 7th grader be expected to figure out that their teacher is trying to trick them without some sort of previous experience? Was it their teachers or a bunch of external researchers?
Cause the first time I was reading it, I thought it was their teachers, but now I am confuse. I mean, what kind of thought process would being misinformed by a teacher spark in a 12-year-old's brain? 'hey guys maybe they were lying about math too' 'hey guys maybe they're lying about EVERYTHING' 'well if they are why are we wasting our time in school' and then a hobo shows up and is like 'SCHOOL IS FOR FOOLS! Look at me!' and then they scream and run away. Yup, that's what we'd be reading about if they had used teachers. From what I got out of it, it was the teachers who gave the students the information and/or assignment. Like when they would give out surveys in class. It wasn't the teacher who made the survey or was running it, but they were the one giving it to you. Also: twelve-year-olds can't really be expected to think very critically. I know I wasn't when I was 12, but now I am a bit more skeptical about what I read. (Yes, even with this article.)
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:28 am
Orphie Cabron the Swan Orphie I thought you might like this article. Besides, how can a 7th grader be expected to figure out that their teacher is trying to trick them without some sort of previous experience? Was it their teachers or a bunch of external researchers?
Cause the first time I was reading it, I thought it was their teachers, but now I am confuse. I mean, what kind of thought process would being misinformed by a teacher spark in a 12-year-old's brain? 'hey guys maybe they were lying about math too' 'hey guys maybe they're lying about EVERYTHING' 'well if they are why are we wasting our time in school' and then a hobo shows up and is like 'SCHOOL IS FOR FOOLS! Look at me!' and then they scream and run away. Yup, that's what we'd be reading about if they had used teachers. From what I got out of it, it was the teachers who gave the students the information and/or assignment. Like when they would give out surveys in class. It wasn't the teacher who made the survey or was running it, but they were the one giving it to you. Also: twelve-year-olds can't really be expected to think very critically. I know I wasn't when I was 12, but now I am a bit more skeptical about what I read. (Yes, even with this article.) I dunno about you but when I was 12 I still wanted to believe in dragons no matter how infeasible it was, so I would happily believe in a tree octopus simply because it was ******** awesome and I wanted it to exist. They forgot to factor that sort of thing in.
Also how many animal rights movements got butthurt over Bonsai kitties? And those people were probably mostly adults. It's not like this is new information: Trolls gonna troll.
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:33 am
Cabron the Swan Orphie Cabron the Swan Orphie I thought you might like this article. Besides, how can a 7th grader be expected to figure out that their teacher is trying to trick them without some sort of previous experience? Was it their teachers or a bunch of external researchers?
Cause the first time I was reading it, I thought it was their teachers, but now I am confuse. I mean, what kind of thought process would being misinformed by a teacher spark in a 12-year-old's brain? 'hey guys maybe they were lying about math too' 'hey guys maybe they're lying about EVERYTHING' 'well if they are why are we wasting our time in school' and then a hobo shows up and is like 'SCHOOL IS FOR FOOLS! Look at me!' and then they scream and run away. Yup, that's what we'd be reading about if they had used teachers. From what I got out of it, it was the teachers who gave the students the information and/or assignment. Like when they would give out surveys in class. It wasn't the teacher who made the survey or was running it, but they were the one giving it to you. Also: twelve-year-olds can't really be expected to think very critically. I know I wasn't when I was 12, but now I am a bit more skeptical about what I read. (Yes, even with this article.) I dunno about you but when I was 12 I still wanted to believe in dragons no matter how infeasible it was, so I would happily believe in a tree octopus simply because it was ******** awesome and I wanted it to exist. They forgot to factor that sort of thing in.
Also how many animal rights movements got butthurt over Bonsai kitties? And those people were probably mostly adults. It's not like this is new information: Trolls gonna troll. Yeah, I was the same way. And even now, I'm still like that, where I want something to exist so I believe in it. Like the article was saying, people want things from religions to exist, so they believe in it. We could probably make a whole thread about what everyone wants to exist and that they still believe in.
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:36 am
Orphie Cabron the Swan Orphie Cabron the Swan Orphie I thought you might like this article. Besides, how can a 7th grader be expected to figure out that their teacher is trying to trick them without some sort of previous experience? Was it their teachers or a bunch of external researchers?
Cause the first time I was reading it, I thought it was their teachers, but now I am confuse. I mean, what kind of thought process would being misinformed by a teacher spark in a 12-year-old's brain? 'hey guys maybe they were lying about math too' 'hey guys maybe they're lying about EVERYTHING' 'well if they are why are we wasting our time in school' and then a hobo shows up and is like 'SCHOOL IS FOR FOOLS! Look at me!' and then they scream and run away. Yup, that's what we'd be reading about if they had used teachers. From what I got out of it, it was the teachers who gave the students the information and/or assignment. Like when they would give out surveys in class. It wasn't the teacher who made the survey or was running it, but they were the one giving it to you. Also: twelve-year-olds can't really be expected to think very critically. I know I wasn't when I was 12, but now I am a bit more skeptical about what I read. (Yes, even with this article.) I dunno about you but when I was 12 I still wanted to believe in dragons no matter how infeasible it was, so I would happily believe in a tree octopus simply because it was ******** awesome and I wanted it to exist. They forgot to factor that sort of thing in.
Also how many animal rights movements got butthurt over Bonsai kitties? And those people were probably mostly adults. It's not like this is new information: Trolls gonna troll. Yeah, I was the same way. And even now, I'm still like that, where I want something to exist so I believe in it. Like the article was saying, people want things from religions to exist, so they believe in it. We could probably make a whole thread about what everyone wants to exist and that they still believe in.
We should!
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:37 am
Cabron the Swan Orphie Cabron the Swan Orphie Cabron the Swan Orphie I thought you might like this article. Besides, how can a 7th grader be expected to figure out that their teacher is trying to trick them without some sort of previous experience? Was it their teachers or a bunch of external researchers?
Cause the first time I was reading it, I thought it was their teachers, but now I am confuse. I mean, what kind of thought process would being misinformed by a teacher spark in a 12-year-old's brain? 'hey guys maybe they were lying about math too' 'hey guys maybe they're lying about EVERYTHING' 'well if they are why are we wasting our time in school' and then a hobo shows up and is like 'SCHOOL IS FOR FOOLS! Look at me!' and then they scream and run away. Yup, that's what we'd be reading about if they had used teachers. From what I got out of it, it was the teachers who gave the students the information and/or assignment. Like when they would give out surveys in class. It wasn't the teacher who made the survey or was running it, but they were the one giving it to you. Also: twelve-year-olds can't really be expected to think very critically. I know I wasn't when I was 12, but now I am a bit more skeptical about what I read. (Yes, even with this article.) I dunno about you but when I was 12 I still wanted to believe in dragons no matter how infeasible it was, so I would happily believe in a tree octopus simply because it was ******** awesome and I wanted it to exist. They forgot to factor that sort of thing in.
Also how many animal rights movements got butthurt over Bonsai kitties? And those people were probably mostly adults. It's not like this is new information: Trolls gonna troll. Yeah, I was the same way. And even now, I'm still like that, where I want something to exist so I believe in it. Like the article was saying, people want things from religions to exist, so they believe in it. We could probably make a whole thread about what everyone wants to exist and that they still believe in.
We should!THEN MAYBE I WILLLLL.
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:40 am
I love how quickly this thread got off-topic.
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:42 am
Cabron the Swan
I love how quickly this thread got off-topic.And it was just us two replying to it. We are great. Also: thread made.
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:38 am
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:03 pm
:O Woah!! I didn't even know Tree-octopi exist! Thats so cool...
SAVE THE TREE OCTOPI!!!
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:22 pm
Cabron the Swan Quote: Remember, in their developmental years, most American kids are encouraged to swallow all sorts of fanciful tales -- such as the one about the rotund, jolly fellow who comes down chimneys each Christmas to deliver presents, or the one about the fairy who exchanges small change for baby teeth tucked under a child's pillow. Even in adulthood, Americans are fed lie after lie. xd It really doesn't surprise me that the average 7th-grader in this society accepts what they're told without questioning it; isn't that what the current educational system is all about? Quote: Instruction in truly critical thinking "does not and cannot happen in the way our schools are structured with their hierarchical power base that punishes thinking that differs from the status quo," Rose wrote. "For that reason . . . we can teach the process and skills of clearer thinking, but we can't teach them to think critically and apply those skills to the real worlds they live in. It goes against too many vested interests that fear their power will be diluted." An interest in real-world power sustained by the masses' inability to think critically?
That pic looks like a ghost juggling infront of the sun.
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:36 pm
@Reg: XD I can never unsee it..
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