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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:09 pm


Alright so the inspiration for this thread came from my husband. They do a lot of web searching for stupid videos, but this one pissed me off.

He said he saw a video the other day and they were hunting lions. He told me the guys shot the lion at a distance, then the lion chased. Duh. Well they shot it again and killed the lion as it lunged at the person.

I kept interjecting when he said hunting... I'm pretty damned sure hunting lions is called poaching...

But any ways. What are your beliefs with poaching? Do you think it is right for it to be illegal? What do you think of poachers?

I agree wholeheartedly that poaching should be illegal. The reason is to protect the unique and endangered species of our world. I mean look at how many white rhino's are left! A handful if we're lucky... I think poachers need to be prosecuted for homocide. They are killing protected species.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:16 pm


Poaching I think is taking or killing illegally. For example, animals that don't belong to you, out of season, protected species, or on someone else's property.

I think.

When I think "poaching" I tend to think of Danny the Champion of the World. It doesn't always apply to endangered species.

But anyone who kills an elephant, if that elephant is not fatally ill or ******** insane off its face, should be punished in some way if only because they're so intelligent.

Killing endangered animals, for just one part of that animal, because it sells at a high price is disgusting. Frankly I don't understand why anyone hunts, unless they're doing it because they don't have anything to eat. Why would you hunt? You don't need what you get from that animal.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:24 pm


Dictionary.com said it is taking or killing an animal illegally. That can be a pretty wide spectrum when you actually pick it apart.

Hunting, when you are going to actually use the meat and all, is alright. But hunting for a tiger's fur or an elephant's tusks is wrong. It is all about greed.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:40 am




I'm in the same boat as you two. I don't hunt, but I can see why a person would do it if they used every bit of the animal. But the people that go off and hunt something JUST because they want an authentic fur coat or an ivory pipe, that kind of thing I dislike greatly. I think that poaching should be made illegal, but worsen the penalty if it is something that is endangered.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:37 am


first of all, poaching is still Hunting, so it isn't nessesarilly incorect just because it's not the most accurate word used. so I think it's a little silly to get upset over that.

but as far as whether or not it should be legal? psht! xd

look, the law only matters if you can enforce it anyway. I believe in Anarchy. but that said, I generally disaprove of poaching. regardless though, enforcing a no-poaching law in a peaceful society isn't practical, because poachers are obviously packing some powerful weapons. meanwhile, if your police force uses weapons that can keep up with that, I would question the joy of living in that nation. police-states are not generally fun.

so, the way I see it, the only real thing you can do about it is hire some bountyhunters or vigilantes to take care of the mess, and they will likely do so regardless of whether what their target is doing is legal or not.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:51 am


I have to say something here. It's kind of silly to say that poaching should be made illegal, since I'm pretty sure poaching is just illegal hunting. It's already illegal to engage in any behavior that could be termed poaching, whether we're talking about killing protected species for profit or just hunting without a license. If it's not illegal, it's just hunting.

However, I do agree that hunting merely for a trophy or for a trinket is disgusting and wrong. If you are going to kill an animal, you should at least honor it by making good use of what you hunted. I know a man who feeds himself primarily off of what he can hunt fish and grow. He processes everything himself to avoid as much waste as possible. That's the way it should be done.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:59 am


I'd say if it's not on a reserve or a protected species that it's fair game.
Hunting a certain animal for a special item they possess has been happening for thousands of years.
If it hasn't stopped by now, it probably won't stop.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:08 pm


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I have to say something here. It's kind of silly to say that poaching should be made illegal, since I'm pretty sure poaching is just illegal hunting. It's already illegal to engage in any behavior that could be termed poaching, whether we're talking about killing protected species for profit or just hunting without a license. If it's not illegal, it's just hunting.

However, I do agree that hunting merely for a trophy or for a trinket is disgusting and wrong. If you are going to kill an animal, you should at least honor it by making good use of what you hunted. I know a man who feeds himself primarily off of what he can hunt fish and grow. He processes everything himself to avoid as much waste as possible. That's the way it should be done.


Poaching is illegal hunting. That is the definition so there isn't really any wiggle room there.

And yes, I do agree that using every part of the kill is important. But if you are not going to use it all then leave it out for some other creatures to have. I don't see that as wasting it, just donating.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:28 pm


It is legal to hunt a lion, and it's not poaching. If they made a video of it, it was more than likely legal hunting of a lion. Also, lions are not endangered animals. What's more, they probably did use the meat since you never said what they did with the lion, and many people love lion meat.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:32 am


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It is legal to hunt a lion, and it's not poaching. If they made a video of it, it was more than likely legal hunting of a lion. Also, lions are not endangered animals. What's more, they probably did use the meat since you never said what they did with the lion, and many people love lion meat.


I really doubt it was hunting with intent to eat their kill. It was most likely game hunting. And if you ask many people game hunting is wrong.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:24 pm


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It is legal to hunt a lion, and it's not poaching. If they made a video of it, it was more than likely legal hunting of a lion. Also, lions are not endangered animals. What's more, they probably did use the meat since you never said what they did with the lion, and many people love lion meat.


I really doubt it was hunting with intent to eat their kill. It was most likely game hunting. And if you ask many people game hunting is wrong.


to be fair though, you are realy jus assuming. I mean, where's your evidence that they weren't going to make good use of their haul?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:40 pm


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It is legal to hunt a lion, and it's not poaching. If they made a video of it, it was more than likely legal hunting of a lion. Also, lions are not endangered animals. What's more, they probably did use the meat since you never said what they did with the lion, and many people love lion meat.


I really doubt it was hunting with intent to eat their kill. It was most likely game hunting. And if you ask many people game hunting is wrong.


What? You have no idea what you are talking about. Game hunting is hunting any kind of game, which is legal. What you are talking about is poaching. And where is your evidence?
I think you are just mad that someone would kill an animal intentionally with a rifle. I can take you "game hunting" here in Wyoming. It's actually pretty fun and exciting. Truly going after an animal with your own wisdom and hunt rather than going to albertsons and grabbing something that was hit in the head with a hammer and thrown upside down.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:44 pm


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It is legal to hunt a lion, and it's not poaching. If they made a video of it, it was more than likely legal hunting of a lion. Also, lions are not endangered animals. What's more, they probably did use the meat since you never said what they did with the lion, and many people love lion meat.


I really doubt it was hunting with intent to eat their kill. It was most likely game hunting. And if you ask many people game hunting is wrong.


What? You have no idea what you are talking about. Game hunting is hunting any kind of game, which is legal. What you are talking about is poaching. And where is your evidence?
I think you are just mad that someone would kill an animal intentionally with a rifle. I can take you "game hunting" here in Wyoming. It's actually pretty fun and exciting. Truly going after an animal with your own wisdom and hunt rather than going to albertsons and grabbing something that was hit in the head with a hammer and thrown upside down.


I didn't mean game, I meant trophy. I thought I typed trophy.

But I am upset that people jump to conclusions so quickly about one another also.

I would go hunting, but for deer and the such. I would use all the meat and I would find uses for the rest. I could donate the skeleton for science or use some for archaic tools for display. I do not believe in hunting for the skins alone. That's just a waste of life.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:21 pm


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It is legal to hunt a lion, and it's not poaching. If they made a video of it, it was more than likely legal hunting of a lion. Also, lions are not endangered animals. What's more, they probably did use the meat since you never said what they did with the lion, and many people love lion meat.


I really doubt it was hunting with intent to eat their kill. It was most likely game hunting. And if you ask many people game hunting is wrong.


What? You have no idea what you are talking about. Game hunting is hunting any kind of game, which is legal. What you are talking about is poaching. And where is your evidence?
I think you are just mad that someone would kill an animal intentionally with a rifle. I can take you "game hunting" here in Wyoming. It's actually pretty fun and exciting. Truly going after an animal with your own wisdom and hunt rather than going to albertsons and grabbing something that was hit in the head with a hammer and thrown upside down.


I didn't mean game, I meant trophy. I thought I typed trophy.

But I am upset that people jump to conclusions so quickly about one another also.

I would go hunting, but for deer and the such. I would use all the meat and I would find uses for the rest. I could donate the skeleton for science or use some for archaic tools for display. I do not believe in hunting for the skins alone. That's just a waste of life.


Trophy, yet again, is not poaching. It's hunting for a trophy item, but still using meat. Most countries and places have specific laws to protect such hunting, so that if you don't want the meat, you can donate the meat for others and get sheer cash for it.

Nobody wants a deer skeleton. Maybe if you killed a blue whale or something, but nobody cares about deer. They can get a skeleton from a dead deer on the side of the highway in Wyoming after a semi smacked it. Not wait for someone like you to shoot one.

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