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chessiejo

PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:13 am


what is your visualization of God?

i know in the 1st chapter of John it says "no one has ever seen God", but we can still use our imaginations.


now this is just for fun, i am not inviting any graven images or anything, just sort of a "what if...?" type question.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:42 pm


My visualization of God is as a collection of energies. God is, to me, at once one and many - a number of gods, really, who, as a pantheon, go by the collective name of God. Each of these gods is a faceless river of light, invisible to human eyes, but these light-rivers can take on humanoid form. The exact form depends on the god.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:50 pm


Have you ever seen pictures of different galaxies? Well, pick one out, and thats what I picture god to look like.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:48 pm


The Goddess shows up to me most often in the form of Artemis, a slender, silver-haired maiden. Stunningly beautiful... but looking past that, I don't really see... anything. At least not anything specific. I see a swirl of colour, flashes of light and darkness... everything that makes up our world, our consciousness, our life, mixed together in chaos... but not really. It's not really chaos... *shakes head* hard to explain. And that's not just the Goddess, that's the God, it's both, unified.

If I think on them individually, I can see the Goddess as maiden, mother or death-crone, and I see the God... well, generally just in one form. Often appearing as Apollo, or at least Apollo-esque.

*shrug* Maybe I'm just too damned Greek?

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Marjuari_the_elemental

PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:54 pm


Well, I have never tried to pic a god(ess). Not really believing in one it is hard. I dont it would take human shape. A god would obviously be a superior being. I think a human would be to inferior for his/her/its form.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:40 pm


Lucca Ashtear
My visualization of God is as a collection of energies. God is, to me, at once one and many - a number of gods, really, who, as a pantheon, go by the collective name of God. Each of these gods is a faceless river of light, invisible to human eyes, but these light-rivers can take on humanoid form. The exact form depends on the god.


because god speaks in the first person plural in Genesis, such as 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness", and 3:22 "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil", it has made me wonder whether god might actually be some kind of committee?

i know, that's quite heretical.

chessiejo


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:45 pm


chessiejo
Lucca Ashtear
My visualization of God is as a collection of energies. God is, to me, at once one and many - a number of gods, really, who, as a pantheon, go by the collective name of God. Each of these gods is a faceless river of light, invisible to human eyes, but these light-rivers can take on humanoid form. The exact form depends on the god.


because god speaks in the first person plural in Genesis, such as 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness", and 3:22 "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil", it has made me wonder whether god might actually be some kind of committee?

i know, that's quite heretical.

Well, don't most christians believe in the three in one deal, that god is the father, the son, and the holy spirit? Maybe thats why it say "And God said...?"
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:12 am


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chessiejo
Lucca Ashtear
My visualization of God is as a collection of energies. God is, to me, at once one and many - a number of gods, really, who, as a pantheon, go by the collective name of God. Each of these gods is a faceless river of light, invisible to human eyes, but these light-rivers can take on humanoid form. The exact form depends on the god.


because god speaks in the first person plural in Genesis, such as 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness", and 3:22 "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil", it has made me wonder whether god might actually be some kind of committee?

i know, that's quite heretical.

Well, don't most christians believe in the three in one deal, that god is the father, the son, and the holy spirit? Maybe thats why it say "And God said...?"


yeh that's a possibility. i can almost picture them around the kitchen table talking, sorting things out!

chessiejo


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:34 pm


I would say that God, having no physical form and being everywhere at once has not form and is impossible for man to understand. So baisically, when I think in very literal terms, I kind of a sense of something being there, that I cannot see- being everywhere.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:10 pm


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chessiejo
Lucca Ashtear
My visualization of God is as a collection of energies. God is, to me, at once one and many - a number of gods, really, who, as a pantheon, go by the collective name of God. Each of these gods is a faceless river of light, invisible to human eyes, but these light-rivers can take on humanoid form. The exact form depends on the god.


because god speaks in the first person plural in Genesis, such as 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness", and 3:22 "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil", it has made me wonder whether god might actually be some kind of committee?

i know, that's quite heretical.

Well, don't most christians believe in the three in one deal, that god is the father, the son, and the holy spirit? Maybe thats why it say "And God said...?"


Technically that would be difficult since God the Son didn't exist at the time. wink

In the time of illiteracy and oral tradition the Hebrews, though they worshiped one God, were very exposed to other gods as well. The Egyptian gods for one and the Babylonians later on. There are passages in the book of Exodus that refer to the God of the Hebrews being against the gods of the Egyptians.

But as the first commandment says, they were not to worship any other god except for Him. Perhaps these other gods were just as real to the ancient Hebrews as their own. However they were not to be revered and worshipped. As far as the Old Testament is concerned, it is possible that the ancient people believed in the existance of numerous gods....but did not worship them.

Cyanna


chessiejo

PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:20 am


Cyanna
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chessiejo
Lucca Ashtear
My visualization of God is as a collection of energies. God is, to me, at once one and many - a number of gods, really, who, as a pantheon, go by the collective name of God. Each of these gods is a faceless river of light, invisible to human eyes, but these light-rivers can take on humanoid form. The exact form depends on the god.


because god speaks in the first person plural in Genesis, such as 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness", and 3:22 "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil", it has made me wonder whether god might actually be some kind of committee?

i know, that's quite heretical.

Well, don't most christians believe in the three in one deal, that god is the father, the son, and the holy spirit? Maybe thats why it say "And God said...?"


Technically that would be difficult since God the Son didn't exist at the time. wink

In the time of illiteracy and oral tradition the Hebrews, though they worshiped one God, were very exposed to other gods as well. The Egyptian gods for one and the Babylonians later on. There are passages in the book of Exodus that refer to the God of the Hebrews being against the gods of the Egyptians.

But as the first commandment says, they were not to worship any other god except for Him. Perhaps these other gods were just as real to the ancient Hebrews as their own. However they were not to be revered and worshipped. As far as the Old Testament is concerned, it is possible that the ancient people believed in the existance of numerous gods....but did not worship them.


"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. " from John's gospel show that Jesus as the Word has been around since the beginning.

and from Colossians 1: 13: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18: And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
19: For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell;
20: And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

where Paul says Christ is firstborn before all things, that everything in the cosmos holds together in him, and that all creation came to be through him.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:54 pm


I find it rather amusing that the church claims God as being omnipotent and omnipresent, and yet we can act against God. Yet if God created everything, controls everything... how can anything we do be against God?

*shrug* Of course, that creates a lot of inconsistencies. Free will in and of itself; the church preaches that God gave us free will - and yet God knows, controls, creates everything. How is that free will?

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chessiejo

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:49 am


i have a hard time believing that god can be both all-loving and all-powerful.

so when it comes right down to it i choose love over power.

a loving god would not have sent that tsunami.

so my god is not so strong, and has a lot of chaos and evil to contend with, and sometimes the good guys lose a battle.

that's just how i look at it :shrug:
PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:22 pm


I've never really thought about that too much. I just can't for the life of me visualize what god looks like. That's probably why I have such a hard time assosciating with him. My guardian angel I can visualize and therefor, its easier to pray to her.

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chessiejo

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:28 pm


i actually don't worry to much about it either; i figure Jesus is enough God for me.

i can visualize him easily, and i do so all the time in meditation.

a plain, earnest young Jewish guy with dusty feet.
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