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BoredTears

PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:30 pm


Before we start stepping on each other's toes I think we should have a topic up on how magic works, for continuities sake. And as I am making races right now, some of whom are magical I would like to be able to write up that part of them without it being questionable as to whether or not I can get it right.

So far in the Creation Theory Topic there has been mention of a language, which requires movement, and emotion to have power. In the same topic I have stated that I would like for magic to be a bit more open then just a language.


Personally I think that our magical system should hold for the language to be a guide for the magic, but not required when using magic. However it should be fairly to very difficult to properly cast spells without the language, and the more complex the spell, and larger the scale, the greater the need of the language.


Next I would like to propose that magic comes in a few basic forms.
First and foremost as various types of energy which primarily exists in other planes of existence. Which are channeled into the world for magical use, through various means.
Second is life force, divine power, and demonic power, all fairly similar, and is mostly how people and various beings can use their own energy for magic.
Last is wild magic, which is the result of other magic, as well as the result of life life force leaking from all living things, and the result of naturally occurring breaches between the planes of existence such as magic crystals. Wild magic is the combination of all other magical forces as they are found naturally in the world, and as such varies greatly from place to place.


So if you all could I would appreciate it if people could post on how they would like magic to work, as well as ideas they have on it.

Note, part of why I am doing this right now is because the very first thing that I consider when making a world is how magic works, so I'm having issues working without knowing how it works.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:51 pm


I think we should definitely include the basic forms you have mentioned just with various ways of accessing it…Maybe for races who are physically inept at using magic, we could have a way of using a type of technology to access the first type of magic form…

There was a mention in pm’s about using a language in the use of magic, so I was pretty focused on getting that incorporated. Since it was mentioned as the Language of Creation, I’m thinking we should base most of the language magic should be used with a large amount of learning and used mainly in manipulating existing objects, maybe creations of external eyes or rock golems or giving a human a set of gills or changing the weather/manipulating weather, etc… It could be known that the Gods have a different way of using the language for other things, but it is still unknown.

I think that another way to use magic should be through channeling the flow of magic current from either the outer planes or from deities or from the material plane itself. Something like a druid type relation with nature or a paladins connection to the gods. This channeling and current should be able to be cut by another individual with the proper talent or ability….

Another could be through blood…having it tainted either by the blood of a rogue god or from some other being. Since it’s not natural, it should be something of a poison. So when it’s accessed it does something to weaken them and the power has to be learned to be tamed or else it could either kill you or consume you and you become something else…or are completely possessed by power or something….

Another form could be something of a simbiosis. A potentially powerful host must travel to a place of wild magic or something where they have to tame or be tamed by a form of magic. They have to grow into the use of magic and have to be ever respectful of the mutuality of this relationship. They either have to be able to hold the being in through pure power, be worthy of it’s power, or in some way helping them. This would only allow them to use only specific types of magic and users may be unable to actually control their magic.

There could be a form of dream walking which allows for individuals to enter a realm which allows them to transfer serine amounts of magic from there to the material plane or into their bodies… or the dream world is the only place they can use magic and it materializes in the material plane…so the user has to be asleep to use magic…

The ever classic use of mana, or a substance which is taken into the body or simply used to allow for the use of magic…it could be a drug which allows for users to bridge the gap between magical areas or other planes, but it is also something you need to introduce to your body (like a poison for resistance) or there are major consequences.

I'm sure we could come up with a million other ways to access magic, but as for a form...I'll have to think about that.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:38 pm


So these are the forms of magic I've come up with....

--Devine Magic is bestowed by a being of power, namly the Gods. The power comes from that being rather than any of the planes of existence or the Immaterial Magic.
--Material Magic is pulled from other planes of existence. The substances which make up those planes [the elements and elementals] can be channeled into the Material Plane. It may also be an energy either from a life form or from a technological instrument or other items which have a type of life energy or power in them...a gem or something created by the world which stores an essence of soarts.
--Immaterial Magic comes from emotion...or from the range of existences which derives from life energy. Life Energy is a Material Energy which comes from the essence of living beings while all Immaterial Magic is deriven from the conditions of the being or their existence. It is not something that can be tapped or channeled. Its a continual flow of uniquly mortal magic which influences other mortals in contact with them. It is one of the main differences between the Gods and mortals.
--Mentalist Magic is magic that comes directly from the mortal or being. Their mind and understanding of the world can influence their material suroundings or the minds of those around them. Something like the internet and code...the world is the internet and the code is a way to alter that reality by using their mind. I'm thinking this should be a form of Psionics for this world...


Do they sound feasible and like things you could use for your races?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:16 am


Could work. Though I think we should also have a sort of Demonic magic. Sort of a divine form that affects things more like immaterial magic does.

Maybe in place of gaining power from gods for the demonic magic you tap into the minds of demons and use their minds to filter material magic from the other planes. Producing an energy more like life force, but having an effect on the persons immaterial state due to the link with a demon's mind.

Though I'm not sure that I could really define that as separate from any of the other forms you have come up with.

Actually thinking about this has given me ideas for demons, I'll post that stuff in the lore section soon, it will be what I shall be working on.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:16 pm


I like all five magic suggestions--Demonic magic included--, and I must say that all is feasible in their own rights. I do suggest however, that we get at least a few examples of how this works actually agreeing on all. I'm not saying that these magical forms aren't good, but it'll help some if they can be given further detail on understanding on the matter.
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