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I like the elementals idea, the children part could easily end up being really convoluted.

As far as the language, it could work out great, however magic limited to a language tends to be a bit of an issue, causing problems with the creation of enchanting and magical tech. So could we define the language as not being all there is to magic, but instead have it as a way of giving direct form to magic.

Such as this, "The Gods spoke of their design in the language of creation, giving it definition through words, movement and intent, unleashing their divine power into the design as they had spoken it, bringing it into being."

That would leave our creation of magic more open, while adding the powerful language as a key part of it.

ps what do you think of this:
The mischievous god who created humans was not banished but denied the promotion he wished for, so he fled to the world, taking on a mortal body. After teaching mortals the use of some of the Language of the Gods, the Elder Gods are to this day hunting him...and others who have fled to the world in hopes of avoiding their tasks as Gods...could play into more interactions with the Elder Gods, Ethereal Gods, and other levels of the Gods.


As for magic, I don't intend for all or possibly even most magic to come from this language. I'm going to post some ideas for ways to use magic, effects of some of the uses, and other such things here in a minute. It'll be rough, but hopefully everyone can take that and possibly develop ideas or eliminate them from the list.

(O.o) What should the guy's name be.

Oh! I know! Let's call the god of mischief Loki!!!

Naw! Just kidding. Let's call him...Epak!

This would be short for epäkohtiin which is Finnish for Mischief!

Of course, we can always go through different languages or come up with something straight off the dome. Most words we have tend to come from some kind of origin. Sometimes the word comes from the names of gods.

For example, Thursday was named after the Norse god Thor. Sunday is for the Sun and Monday is for the moon. Luna, the name of the moon, gave rise to the word Lunar as in Lunar Eclipse. I'm not planning to start making up words for some kind of dictionary, but I'm just saying that it does seem somewhat logical.

By the way, Our Sun's name is Sol. Like Solar. LOL! Whoot! Education rules!

Sup dude. We're not at the beginning, but we're a bit shady on how to go through with it. We're going with an elemental creation idea; something you should have already got the gist of by reading this. So far, we're really only getting the basis for the understanding of the elementals and small things they do. We don't have, as of yet, any specific elemental beings to work on that aren't just the general beings other than Light and Dark themselves.

If you wish to come up with some ideas, just post most, if not all, of them here, so we can take a gander.

Now, I wish to stick a pin in Diana's suggestion when it comes to the punishments of the rogue gods. The fact that a god being turned into an item makes sense, since gods are supposedly 'immortal'. Now, you may not be able to kill a god, but isn't still possible to send them into a state from which they cannot come back from? Now then, the idea that a very powerful artifact was formed from the essence or being of a god could give us a reason why their are material magic. For example, even if the whole entire god may not be changed into the item, it's possible that the item could have been blessed or formed from part of their own being to cause its magical properties to arise. Not only this, but it may also help out with the idea that some of the cursed or more potent items, say the Null Sphere of the Void I'm trying to work on, could be traced back to a fallen god or something along those lines.

As for the reason why elementals may be more prevalent in influence then the gods, may just be because the elementals are gods themselves. Or, akin to them as an offspring of a select few. Remember that when we tried to define Light and Dark's(siblings who are also gods) role in the creation of the other elementals, we have completely forgotten the fact that Light and Dark were gods, but they are also elements! Why not we say that the Elder gods may just be THE original elementals, but Light and Dark decided to disobey the rule of the Elder gods which stated that one may not use their powers to shape things or something of that nature.

When Light and Dark created the 'elementals' they mostly just made duplicates or lessers of the Elder Gods which can be seen as the Lesser Gods or the forerunners for them. The material elementals were the first beings to roam what was Mana(our planet) at that time. When the other gods realized what they have done, they decided that actions must be taken to control the newbred world. But by the time they have realized what had happened, the Mana bred elementals' residual magics has binded together to form our current species and things of the likes. The Elder Gods just don't take much time out to patrol Mana, because they--Light and Dark obviously being the exceptions--had nothing to do with it in the first place.

Lesser gods were formed from the mating of the Elder gods(much like those found in the Roman empire or Ancient Greece). Now then, even though these lesser gods' duties were to supervise this new found world, they, just like the Elder Gods, were not fully bound by any REAL code to take care of this planet. The only REAL rule of the gods are not to traverse the world, but, if they so chooses, interact with it indirectly with their designated responsibility or 'chore'.

How does that sound?

Now I know I may be repeating myself, but this is purely to collect my thoughts when it comes to some of what I have said.


My reasoning is that the Elder Gods are the original Elements and that the Elementals are something that have been created against the rules of the covenant in which they all shared. This covenant has been broken by Light and Dark(which in my opinion should be twins, but we can get back to that later.) When the Elder Gods found out that Mana has been created and that elementals roamed the world, they decided that there was work to have been done. After mating with each other to create offspring or the Lesser Gods, the elders sent them to work on Mana.

Now, by the time Mana has been discovered by the others, the residue from the elementals there has already molded themselves into the creatures and species we have now. Each god has no real obligation to rule or oversee the development of Mana for it was created out of the covenant they shared and whatnot. This is the reason why any of the gods aren't really into the world as the elements, the ones born there, are. Not only that, but the Elder Gods could have went off into their planes which were formed after Mana. Though, the Elder Gods could have created them themselves. In going there, they ruled over the elementals specifically under their rule. This means that the elementals were taken off of Mana and sent into their individual kingdoms.

The lesser gods are around merely to to watch the planet which they still have no obligation to watch over. Only the ones praised the most are the ones that actually do things in the world. All religions, when it comes to the names of their gods anyways, are all true to an extent until it gets to how they were formed.

Since the lesser gods were made intentionally by the elder gods, when a lesser gets in trouble, the parent or elder god that the lesser corresponds to will be the one to administer the punishment for the lesser god. A popular punishment that circulates between all of the elder gods is the transmutation of their offspring into magical or material items of great power in order to teach them a lesson in which they will never forget. The length of this form depends on which god you're referring to and the extent of the lessers blasphemy and whatnot.

When it comes to the kingdoms in which the elders rule, it may just be on Mana in a material sense. For example, the Fire plane in which one of the elders rule may be a burning hot rock that never cools. The heat not only signifies which kingdom it is, but also protects it and safeguards it from the beings on the planet. In a way, these items, if used correctly, could be seen as portals or weapons of immense strength to be used as the holder sees fit.

Lesser Gods can make their own enchanted items without becoming them themselves. All that god has to do is bless the object or create one from their own divinity, magic, power, or being which could retain these properties for as long as the god who made it cares for it to be( or not if it is forgotten) or until that god, if deemed reasonable to the elders, turned into an enchanted item themselves.

Any opinions on my thoughts about this?

Racial Write up Woman here,(and currently getting over a cold)

First, I'm not doing Gnomes, if other people want gnomes they can write them up. I hate gnomes, I wrote up werewolves of which I hate with a burning passion, and am am going to do so again because I forgot to save it, but I hate gnomes way more, enough for me to lose my impartiality.

As for magically inclined races compared to others, I wasn't really planing on making them that different. I'm not a big fan of making a race that is only good at one thing, so I had no plan on making a race the magically inclined one that you should play if you want a mage character. With them not being so greatly different I don't think that that much effort should really go into an apparent difference.


As for your idea about the gods, I think I would prefer the gods and the elementals to be completely separate.

I think that when the world was made, the gods failed, or didn't try hard enough, to prevent their own minds from affecting the process, in effect the gods created independent self manufacturing minds from the raw material of the world, by overlaying their minds on their work. Thus forming the elementals. I do have a very clear picture of how this could work with what we have in our magic system so far.