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In the ring, he's mediocre on a good day. He wrestles the same match every time, telegraphs his moves like a god damn flag semaphore, and the only thing we can ever hope to see him sell is merch (getting up from a DDT on concrete is bullshit). But even when I DESPISED him, he got a laugh out of me every now and then. As far as wrestlers go, he can actually act and entertain. Everyone he's ever made a fool out of was in on it anyway, so you can't argue that he steps on everyone to further his own career (like I used to, mind you).

I hate everything as much as the next guy. I have no problem with people hating. Scientifically, we can do no more than persuade it. But we don't even realize how out of hand it is. Which, again, makes it retarded.

It's fun to pick on him, but it seems like a lot of people are hell bent on obsessing over everything negative and blinding themselves to anything positive. I really think our society is just hell bent on bitching about ******** EVERYTHING.

Some one, enlighten me. What am I missing? Is our society just... retarded?

Is John Cena the worst wrestler I've ever seen? No. Do I like him or his "Persona" No. What bothers me most about him is how the WWE continues to push him as their main eventer when he obviously doesn't have the main event element to carry the ball.

We look at Top guys in the past, Hulk Hogan, Brett Hart, Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock, just to name a few, Some of these guys could wrestle well, others, not as much. But they all had Charisma, they had IT. A persona where as a main face of the organization the majority of fans will back them no matter what the opposition is. These are guys that can put an a** every 18 inches, and make or break other superstars just by being in the same ring as them.

John Cena lacks this, true he has his fan base, lots of people like him, but in direct comparison, I don't think he has gotten a positive reaction on his best day that can match that of a Hogan or the Rock. Several times I've seen interviews where even Cena notices this and comments on the lack of fan support that he gets in comparisson to the other main eventers. And in spite of this, the WWE is relentless in their ever continuing efforts to push Cena as their main guy. And that is what I dislike about him.

It's like someone forcing you to eat the same food item over and over again, like a Big Mac from McDonalds, it's not bad, but definatley not the best there is out there, I can eat one every once and a while, but if someone tried to force me to eat one every meal of every day, That mediocre feeling I have for the big mac will turn into hatred. People don't like it when something is forced upon them. And when the WWE forces a main poster boy like John Cena, who to me at best was a mid carder competing for the united states championship, it turned me off to him much much faster.

WWE should pay more attention to who the fans are really backing, who they really view as the most popular wrestler and push him, instead of continuously forcing Cena on us.

Grandking pretty much covered it.. I think the thing people hate most is that its supposed to be wrestling, and Cena is not even close in talent to what a face of the company should be. Fact is that wrestling has changed since the days when I was younger. Its not about talent anymore, its all about money and like it or not Cena sells otherwise Vince would toss him aside

The only thiong John Cena makes me laugh at is how dumb he is

To be honest, I never really hated John Cena, but the way they packaged him made me want to throw up. For three straight years after his first US title victory, even though he was just a little more than s**t in the ring, WWE took every opportunity possible to make him look like the greatest wrestler of all time, even if it meant shattering the credibility of other wrestlers and making them act unnaturally and illogically around him. They built whole episodes around him, and fed him several peoples' undefeated streaks. And yet, despite the fact that he lost about two fair matches in just as many years, they still went great lengths to push him as an underdog, even if it meant having him wrestle with a bullshit "kidney-stab" or "ruptured spleen."
It was beyond sickening, and don't tell me it wasn't.

Him as a person, I eventually came to realize, I respect. He's the perfect employee, an excellent champion offstage, and he's not afraid to get his hands dirty in order to get ahead. Unlike a lot of the people they've pushed into the main event, like Goldberg and Jeff Hardy, he actually enjoys and fully respects what he does. I can really get behind that kind of attitude.

anyone else notice that cena is using a dropkick now???

I like john..though he always ends up fighting the same routine. three shoudlers that back slam five knuckle shuffle and FU (I continue to call it the FU not attitude adjustment screw that).. always the same win.. outside of the ring though...fun fun fun.

I know the topic is old, but it just got revived and I saw Maverick's post, so I thought I'd answer.

I fully understand your anger towards today's M.E. scene, especially if you dare comparing it to the 90's. And I say "dare" because it's, in no way, comparable.

First of all, back then, the context of the wrestling world gave that emergency, if not that obligation of innovating in order to keep your fanbase. Because at the end of last century's, if you didn't like Raw, you could always switch to Monday Nitro or wait later in the week to watch ECW. There was a solid competition and wrestling fans of a certain company knew about the other two, often watching more than one show. Therefore, Heyman, McMahon and Bischoff all had to make sure it was their show that the wrestling fan would think and talk about the most for the rest of the week. And in that effort to be the most memorable, they HAD to step up their game and pull perfect matches, terrific promos, good storylines, and a constant use of the roster with some sort of rotation to not get the fans tired. Plus, back then, they didn't have to worry about having a superhero for the youth people (which, oddly enough, would be us today xd ) because they were not their primary targets in their marketing maneuvers.

Today, there is only one big wrestling company. TNA, with all the potential in the world, used all its chances to elevate itself and become the same type of competition ECW was to WWF back in the 90's by giving the product in a twisted way, and failed miserably every single time. Most WWE released superstars go there for a reason, and it's not because the place is exceptional, but because they know it's safe money as they're desperate to capitalize on someone's popularity to carry the company to a higher level.

The one thing that changed also is that we have the tools to communicate our anger towards a product, share our points why and just get pumped against it.