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 Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:23 am
Hello all. I know I don't post here often, but I'm looking for some information on how the "Big 3" are supposed to treat animals. Verses or passages would be esepecially helpful. I've already gathered some information, but am looking for confirmation, so if anyone wants to speak up on what thier religion says please do.
Oh, and while I'm looking for "Big 3" primarily I can also use other view points, like Hindi, Budisim, or Shinto.
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:37 am
I dont have time to go into detail with quotes at the moment. But I will leave you with some of my favoruite aspects of animal treatment in Islam, via Hadiths (sayings and actions of Prophet Muhammad in Islam)
He loved animals dearly, no matter what kind. And would not turn his head when they were underfed, overloaded, or left to starve. Muhammad said, some comments he has made, are clear: "Fear Allah in your treatment of animals.", "Verily, there is heavenly reward for every act of kindness done to a living animal."
1) It was call to prayer and Prophet Muhammad went to get one of his robes to wear. He found his cat (Muezza) sleeping on the sleeve of the robe. Instead of waking Muezza to get off his robe, he cut the sleeve off to let Muezza sleep.
2) Muhammad is said to have informed a prostitute who had seen a thirsty dog sitting around a well and given it water to drink. Allah forgave the Prostitute because of that good deed.
Some Muslims think that dogs are bad, but this is misinformed. Muhammad thought dogs were unclean, and not to be kept inside the house all the time. But he loved dogs and would never let harm come to them.
To sum up Halal meat: Muslims are NOT allowed to hunt for fun, we raise cattle humanely and slaughter them with a fast cut to the throat, to try to minimize pain.
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:43 am
Thank you! This is what I was looking for. Do you happen to know offhand where in the Hadiths these saying are written down?
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:04 am
Being native american, I know that the elders teach all life is sacred. Animals should be treated with the same respect that we expect of ourselves, as they are our spirit kin. If you must kill an animal for food, then a prayer to that spirit is said, thanking it for allowing the use of its body for food.
My grandmother, who is a christian, says that while there is no Scriptural reference to this, all animals are God's creation and should be treated as such. By this she certainly meant that no animal should be beaten or abused by humans as it is an abuse of the authority God gave Adam over the animals int he Garden of Eden.
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:41 pm
In Christianity, God gave humans dominion over the earth (Genesis 1:2 cool and also: Quote: Psalm 8:6‑8 You made him ruler over the works of your hands; you put everything under his feet: all flocks and herds, and the beasts of the field, the birds of the air, and the fish of the sea, all that swim the paths of the seas. In Eden we weren't supposed to eat the animals, but later He gave us permission to do that too, though the Jews He gave specific instructions for what they could and couldn't eat (partly for health reasons, it seems. Some of the things they weren't to eat we now know were likely to be diseased. Now we can prepare them so they're safe, but that wasn't true then.) Anyway, because He gave us dominion over the earth, we can assume He wants us to treat the earth well. Creation praises Him: Quote: Revelation 5:13 Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!" He made creation, and I think He cares for it: Quote: Matthew 6:26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Isaiah 43:20‑21 The wild animals honor me, the jackals and the owls, because I provide water in the desert and streams in the wasteland, to give drink to my people, my chosen the people I formed for myself that they may proclaim my praise. Psalm 104:10‑13 He makes springs pour water into the ravines; it flows between the mountains. They give water to all the beasts of the field; the wild donkeys quench their thirst. The birds of the air nest by the waters; they sing among the branches. He waters the mountains from his upper chambers; the earth is satisfied by the fruit of his work. He cares for us more though: Quote: Romans 8:19‑22 The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. So basically, He wants us to treat the earth, and the animals who inhabit it well, partly out of gratefulness to Him, and partly because He made it. We're only stewards, so we be treating the earth (which we don't own) respectfully. We should be responsible when it come to animals and nature.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:34 pm
there are two trends in Christianity that i have noticed;
one is to dominate and subdue the earth, and i have a friend who seriously states that this means we have to make everything serve us even if it wipes out whole species!
i doubt that very much; why then would the Creator have declared "It is good" when he made all those animals?
then on the other side there are those like St Francis who loved animals and birds and wrote hymns about them and looked on them as brothers and sisters
and St Columba. who preceded Patrick in the area of Ireland and Scotland (based on Iona in the Irish Sea) was supposed to be very popular with animals, who would seek him out.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:28 pm
Call Me Apple 1) It was call to prayer and Prophet Muhammad went to get one of his robes to wear. He found his cat (Muezza) sleeping on the sleeve of the robe. Instead of waking Muezza to get off his robe, he cut the sleeve off to let Muezza sleep. That's how I feel about it. I feel guilty when I disturb an animal for my own comfort.
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:25 pm
In Judaism it is a grievous sin to harm animals and a mitzvah(commandment and good deed) to help animals.
To give a specific example, in Leviticus it is commanded that, in scenarios where one must take eggs from a bird's nest for food, one is required to shoo the mother bird away first, that she will not have to watch as her eggs are taken.
Another commandment from Leviticus about animals is "Thou shalt not boil a calf in its mother's milk." This is actually the reason why, when keeping Kosher, one eats dairy and meat a minimum 6 hours apart. Take, for an example, the unkosher Cheeseburger. For all you know, the cow that became that burger, his own mother's milk that nursed him could have made the cheese. It is respectful to the cow.
Some would say this is the epitome of respect for animals, respect post-slaughter even when eating them.
...And a bunch more laws, too. I can only think of those two off the top of my head.
Some symbolic animals in Judaism:
-The Ram appears many times in the Tanakh, including in the Binding of Isaac. Rams were once used for the scapegoat ritual. The Ram's Horn or Kudu horn is usually used for the Shofar.
-The Lion is symbolic of the tribe of Judah.
- Fish often appear on Chamsa hands.
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:41 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew In Judaism it is a grievous sin to harm animals and a mitzvah(commandment and good deed) to help animals. To give a specific example, in Leviticus it is commanded that, in scenarios where one must take eggs from a bird's nest for food, one is required to shoo the mother bird away first, that she will not have to watch as her eggs are taken. Another commandment from Leviticus about animals is "Thou shalt not boil a calf in its mother's milk." This is actually the reason why, when keeping Kosher, one eats dairy and meat a minimum 6 hours apart. Take, for an example, the unkosher Cheeseburger. For all you know, the cow that became that burger, his own mother's milk that nursed him could have made the cheese. It is respectful to the cow. Some would say this is the epitome of respect for animals, respect post-slaughter even when eating them. 1. Even though I'm not Jewish, I have to say that's a great way to be in regards to animals. It's pretty evil of someone to harm an animal on purpose simply because they can. 2. Makes sense and sounds like a good thing to do. Taking the animal's feelings into account is a good thing to do as they do have feelings like humans do. 3. I never thought about that before... and you have a point there...
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:08 am
Lumanny the Space Jew In Judaism it is a grievous sin to harm animals and a mitzvah(commandment and good deed) to help animals. To give a specific example, in Leviticus it is commanded that, in scenarios where one must take eggs from a bird's nest for food, one is required to shoo the mother bird away first, that she will not have to watch as her eggs are taken. Another commandment from Leviticus about animals is "Thou shalt not boil a calf in its mother's milk." This is actually the reason why, when keeping Kosher, one eats dairy and meat a minimum 6 hours apart. Take, for an example, the unkosher Cheeseburger. For all you know, the cow that became that burger, his own mother's milk that nursed him could have made the cheese. It is respectful to the cow. Some would say this is the epitome of respect for animals, respect post-slaughter even when eating them. ...And a bunch more laws, too. I can only think of those two off the top of my head. Some symbolic animals in Judaism: -The Ram appears many times in the Tanakh, including in the Binding of Isaac. Rams were once used for the scapegoat ritual. The Ram's Horn or Kudu horn is usually used for the Shofar. -The Lion is symbolic of the tribe of Judah. - Fish often appear on Chamsa hands. another onw from Judaism that i like is "thou shalt not muzzle the ox while it treadeth the corn". oxen would turn the horizontal millstone that ground up grain, they were chained or harnessed to it so they had to go round and round all day but if grain or flour fell on the ground during its work time, it was allowed to bend down and eat it, like a snack break because the LORD said so. that always seemed kind to me.
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