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 Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:21 am
Is anybody else having a hard time being taken seriously?
When people find out I'm an atheist, they automatically assume I'm claiming to be one because I think it'd make me look "cool", or I "hate myself". Then, if I bother telling them why I'm an atheist, they think I'm looking for pity, so I just try and ignore them, but yet, it still bothers the hell out of me. And I don't see how I'm looking for pity, seeing as the events behind the reason happened years before I was born, so they don't effect me, but my family.
Is anybody having a hard time being taken seriously, do people spew out "lol im an atheist i'm so dark" when you happen to mention you are one?
It bothers me to no end, I was raised an atheist, and I don't reject a god, I merely don't have one.
I guess it's because I'm only fifteen, and they think I can't have any aspect of my life figured out, but the funny thing is: I do. My mother taught me my options, she lets me and my siblings decide for ourselves, and I simply can't believe in a god after stories she told me about our family and things I've witnessed myself.
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:30 am
This is why I do not talk about being pagan. My brother treats me like a moron already and calls me a witch, which I am, but the way he does it is very disrespectful and degrading. So I just keep it to myself. My fiance is supportive of me so he's the only person I really need to talk to about it.
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:39 am
Aakosir This is why I do not talk about being pagan. My brother treats me like a moron already and calls me a witch, which I am, but the way he does it is very disrespectful and degrading. So I just keep it to myself. My fiance is supportive of me so he's the only person I really need to talk to about it. That's terrible. D; Your family should be supportive and accepting of who you are; afterall, they're family. Nobody has room to judge another person's beliefs.
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:07 am
Hrm, maybe it is your age. Or the way you say it.
I usually tell people as if it's no big deal. Because it isn't. It shouldn't impact our friendship, and it shouldn't really affect the way people view me.
I don't think I've ever had to worry about people judging me for just being angsty and emo. No, if someone snickered at me, I'd probably dare them to do it again. XD
Usually my only concern is people thinking that I am somehow a threat to their faith or something. Some people have been taught that the definition of "atheist" is: "Godless sinner who denies the existence of your God, yet for some reason worships your Satan, who wishes to drag you to the depths of Hell with them."
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:09 am
This pickled vegetable...As far as real life goes, I don't have a problem with being taken seriously. The people around me know that I have no real religious views just because I haven't found any that make sense or even appeal to me. I wouldn't call myself "atheist" but I'm pretty damn close to it.
I honestly have more trouble take people with religious views seriously as opposed to people with religious views taking me seriously. I'm sorry, but hugging trees will not being you closer to the Goddess and you deserve the rash you got for not realizing that you were allergic! .... Sorry, I have this friend... ... could kick your a** !!
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:36 pm
brainnsoup Hrm, maybe it is your age. Or the way you say it.
I don't think it's the "way I say it". It just happens to come up in conversation, and I politely tell them I'm not religious, and try to move on. :/ And if it is my age, there's a problem there. Age=/=maturity. I don't see what's so hard to comprehend about that...? Like I said, my mother taught me this stuff. I don't claim to be some "expert" on religion, or atheism, but I do know what I believe and what I don't. Renkon Root This pickled vegetable...As far as real life goes, I don't have a problem with being taken seriously. The people around me know that I have no real religious views just because I haven't found any that make sense or even appeal to me. I wouldn't call myself "atheist" but I'm pretty damn close to it.
... could kick your a** !! I've only had one problem with someone in real life over religion. In the sixth grade. I never really speak of religion in real life, and it barely comes up over the internet; just this once it happened to, and most of the other times it has, I got the same response, or one quite close.
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:25 pm
Blakemore Aakosir This is why I do not talk about being pagan. My brother treats me like a moron already and calls me a witch, which I am, but the way he does it is very disrespectful and degrading. So I just keep it to myself. My fiance is supportive of me so he's the only person I really need to talk to about it. That's terrible. D; Your family should be supportive and accepting of who you are; afterall, they're family. Nobody has room to judge another person's beliefs.
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:56 am
I'm agnostic and see something kind of similar. People assume all the time that agnostics are the people that aren't sure what faith is right and put just enough stock in all religions to cover their asses just in case. Do you know how many times I've had Christians knock me saying 'You have to fully believe in Jesus Christ to receive his blessing' or some other crap like that. NO. Just, NO. By saying I'm agnostic all I'm saying is that I don't know if any type of God exists, I have no way to prove or disprove the existence of a God.
I fully support the quote: "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
(As far as family goes I could care less what they think, not that it really comes up in conversation. I'll be respectful of theirs as long as they respect my irreligiousness.)
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:13 am
I have trouble getting my parents to take me seriously, because they're the type who thinks experience and knowledge always come with age. And by that, they mean they'll know I'm grown up when I accept their god. (They're Catholic) So I can't possibly have made up my mind yet. ¬_¬
I haven't had that problem with my friends, though. Haha, I wouldn't be friends with them if they had a problem with it or didn't believe me.
I think it's easier for my parents to believe that I "just don't understand it yet" instead of being "beyond Jesus's saving power." That would just be too tragic for them, I suppose. rofl Don't mean to be flippant, but I do get very frustrated with it all sometimes.
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:02 am
Blakemore brainnsoup Hrm, maybe it is your age. Or the way you say it.
I don't think it's the "way I say it". It just happens to come up in conversation, and I politely tell them I'm not religious, and try to move on. :/ And if it is my age, there's a problem there. Age=/=maturity. I don't see what's so hard to comprehend about that...? Like I said, my mother taught me this stuff. I don't claim to be some "expert" on religion, or atheism, but I do know what I believe and what I don't.
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:51 pm
In conversation, I've gotten the "you're just trying to be cool" thing for my vegetarianism, sexuality, and atheism. I'm well used to it. When you're young, anything that makes you different is labeled as "trying to be cool," especially if the people making that accusation don't know you. Granted, I've gotten apologies from a few people who took me more seriously once they discovered I'm an adult (I get mistaken as fourteen or so on a regular basis.) If they still refuse to take me seriously, I ask them why would I be an atheist for six years (or in your case, your whole life) if it were just to be cool or rebellious? Usually the ones doing something to be cool change their mind in a matter of months.
Remember that you don't have to prove anything to anyone. They're insecure with their own beliefs if they look down on yours.
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:48 pm
Can I post here? Because I get judged for being a creationist, and not just on the net. sweatdrop I usually get weird looks when I tell anyone who's not in real life.
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:14 am
I've had friends that were Christians, and my my mother was raised Catholic, and my remaining aunts and uncle are Catholics still, I believe, I've been taught not to judge. I guess I've just been having a hard time understanding why people can't accept who other's are because of the way I've been raised. I guess thats why it bothered me so much that they were saying those things about me. I mean, I can understand why people feel the need to judge, but why they would do it, I don't understand, unless out of spite and they didn't have time to think?
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:39 pm
Take a number. Go to Georgia, tell someone with a big-a** mouth you're non-religious, and suddenly everyone knows you're agnostic, half the people think your a satanist, the churches in the town double, and "Trust God" signs show up everywhere.
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:02 am
Captain_Shinzo Take a number. Go to Georgia, tell someone with a big-a** mouth you're non-religious, and suddenly everyone knows you're agnostic, half the people think your a satanist, the churches in the town double, and "Trust God" signs show up everywhere. I'm not entirely sure how to respond to that...o_o
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