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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:19 pm
The Sensation of his warm touch, can I be blamed for feeling this way for him? Lust, I casted this deadly sin. This passion it burns for him so much! Oh why did I feel his touch? I feel this demon burning within, Oh fatal lust why must you be a sin? Why must I remember his touch? Give me time to explain, I never meant to see you hurt. Guilt is my punishment. This darkness I gave you is now my pain. My devotion is now worth dirt. Loneliness is my punishment.
((I hope this sonnet is better than the first, I was writing this in my head all afternoon ^^,. Finally i feel it is worthy of being posted.))
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:49 pm
((plays with fingures and pouts like a child.)) I wanted at least one comment good or bad... I'd settle for anything. I was actually a little proud of this.
[Edit] I didnt like the name much though... that needs work.
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:50 pm
Huge, huge improvement when it comes to form. Seriously. You got the rhyme down as well as the volta (which, yay, 'cause voltas are sometimes a bit hard--in my opinion--to make clear). The meter is more regular, too, though it still jumps around a little. There were also a couple grammar issues, but nothing horrible. My main suggestion for this is simply to watch the words you are rhyming since sometimes you rhyme the same words together. For example, you end three lines with "touch." Not necessarily wrong, and I can understand why (not the easiest of words to rhyme), but it's kind of the easy way out. But still, good job over all.
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:54 pm
I know, the repitition bothered me as well... I'll try to edit that. Everytime I found a word I just didnt know how to make it "right".
Also it would help a loads if you'd tell me what grammar mistakes I made. I'd much appreciate some help with that, especially with punctuation.
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:01 pm
What if i were to use a assonance rhyming technique? Would that be better or still taking the easy way out?
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:19 pm
'Kay, I think the easiest way to point out grammar is just to quote the poem and bold the things I've edited or have questions about (I ended up also making them read since the bolding didn't show up all that well). Hope you don't mind. sweatdrop Quote: The Sensation of his warm touch -- ((Doesn't have to be a dash. Could be a period, but I think the dash works better, personally. Up to you.)) Can I be blamed for feeling this way for him? Lust, I casted ((I'm not really sure what ou mean here. "Casted" isn't a word as far as I know. Do you perhaps mean something similar to "loath" or "hate"? Or maybe "cast away"?)) this deadly sin. This passion , it burns for him so much! Oh , why did I feel his touch? I feel this demon burning within -- ((Again, doesn't have to be a dash.)) Oh , fatal lust why must you be a sin? Why must I remember his touch? Give me time to explain ; I never meant to see you hurt. Guilt is my punishment. This darkness I gave you is now my pain. My devotion is now worth dirt. Loneliness is my punishment. Hope this helps. ^^Sylphiah What if i were to use a assonance rhyming technique? Would that be better or still taking the easy way out? I think that would be good, actually. I don't mind slant rhyme myself--I actually tend to like it better than usual rhyme (probably because of my hatred for rhyme in general xp ).
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:42 pm
Thanks ^^. I have problem with puntuation sometimes. i appreciate your help with it.
Okay I might edit the rhyme scheme then. I was just afraid that it might be a pushing the rules a bit, and in a way I thought the repitition added emphasis on the narrarators distress... But I guess I over guessed myself.
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:56 pm
Heh, punctuation (and grammar in general) was hammered into my head every year in high school. The one good thing that place did for me (I'm not very fond of my school).
Meh. Technically that might be pushing the rules of a traditional sonnet, but sonnets have evolved since the 18th century, so I wouldn't worry about it. As long as you have the basic form. I once wrote a sonnet that didn't rhyme at all--I just had the fourteen lines, the volta, and iambic pentameter, and my professor still classified it as a sonnet.
Anyway, I think repetition is one of the harder poetic devices to pull off because the poet is constantly walking a line between making a point and shoving that point down the reader's throats, haha. Not that your repitition was that bad. I would have liked it better if it wasn't part of the rhyme scheme.
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:08 pm
Yeah, highschool sucks. I feel all we did in the first year was learn how to spell((like in elementry school)) and turn in essay after essay... I'll probably get the hang of it soon I hope.
I feel more comfortable now that I might try the slant counterparts to the repitition lines.
Repitition is better in longer poems I suppose?
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:20 pm
I think my issue with high school English classes is that they tend to be more literature based rather than writing based, and even then the lit gets dumbed down like they don't think the students can discuss it intelligently. And then even if they have you write a lot, they don't teach it well and they give a majority of points for completion. Or, at least, that's been my experience, both at my school and at the local public high school where I was a TA for a little while.
Anyway, sounds good. I'm interested in seeing how it turns out.
And, maybe? I think it really depends on the subject and what is being repeated and why. I've never really used repetition so it's hard for me to pinpoint what makes it work.
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:28 pm
Yeah, I've noticed that they think we are dumb and wont understand or that we should understand by just being shown the material. I think it's the no child left behind act, I think students should be taught to their full potential... ((yes I understand some cant keep up but thats why there is study hall and after school sessions))
I'll try to post it later, I'm just not in a very creative mood right now. Sorry for delaying it.
Another example of something the teachers should be teaching! It would be so much easier to use repitition if someone would teach me how! Seriouslly they waste funding on coaches for sports but leave me confused on the proper place for repitition.((Actually i'm just going to look it up for now, where would I be without the internet?))
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:21 pm
Yeah, that probably has something to do with it. I just wish they bothered to strengthen students' writing skills since writing is a big part of all our lives no matter what we go on to do.
Oh, no problem. I tend to put off all my editing, too. I'm a really lazy when it comes to revising my own work. Heh.
I agree. When it comes to anything artistic, schools in general tend to fall short. It does seem like sports get all the attention and funding and whatnot. It's kinda frustrating.
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:43 pm
((About "casted" I'm looking for a past tense of "cast or casting" as if the narrarator is casting a spell. any synonym suggestions would be appreciated.))
The Sensation of his warm touch-- Can I be blamed for feeling this way for him? Lust, I casted this deadly sin. This passion, it burns for him so much! The heat increase as we rush. I feel this demon burning within-- Oh, fatal lust why must you be a sin? A load warning is silenced with a "hush". Give me time to explain; I never meant to see you hurt. Guilt is my punishment. This darkness I gave you is now my pain. My devotion is now worth dirt. Loneliness is my punishment.
((This is all I have for revisements right now. ^^ I hope it's a little less bothersome.))
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:24 pm
TheAntiBella Yeah, that probably has something to do with it. I just wish they bothered to strengthen students' writing skills since writing is a big part of all our lives no matter what we go on to do. Yeah, also at my school I know that a few of the teachers goof off... Infact one day a teacher went off about a religious experiance she had and then basically bashed the Athiest and Agnostic religions. I was so pissed. I'm sitting there thinking, "Isn't this type of talk in school illigal?" TheAntiBella Oh, no problem. I tend to put off all my editing, too. I'm a really lazy when it comes to revising my own work. Heh. I find I cant do a thing with writing/drawing when I have no inspiration... Thus, I tend to take forever to finish the most simple of things. ^^, TheAntiBella I agree. When it comes to anything artistic, schools in general tend to fall short. It does seem like sports get all the attention and funding and whatnot. It's kinda frustrating. I know. It's bogus how atheletic students who hardly pass get a free ride through collage and end up wasting what they were given, and students who are hardworking and talented are left paying. ((It especially pisses me off in cases where lowerclass children with so much potential are damned from the begining due to their "title".))
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:25 am
Sylphiah ((About "casted" I'm looking for a past tense of "cast or casting" as if the narrarator is casting a spell. any synonym suggestions would be appreciated.)) Actually, I think "cast" is both present and past. Also, I think the poem is written in present tense, so using "cast" as a present tense verb is actually what you need. ^^
And I just realized something--I totally messed up in my earlier editing when I said the first part could end in a period. Not that it matters since you used the dash, but I feel rather stupid at the moment. If it had been a period, it would have been a fragment. sweatdrop Sorry about that.Quote: The Sensation of his warm touch-- Can I be blamed for feeling this way for him? Lust, I cast this deadly sin. ((I like the idea of casting the sin like it's a spell, but I'm not sure if that's entirely clear here. I'm not sure how it could be made clearer, though. Sorry!))This passion, it burns for him so much , The heat increasing as our bodies rush. ((I'm not sure why, but "as we rush" sounded...unfinished to me. What I changed it to, though, is just a suggestion, not a necessary edit.))I feel this demon burning within-- Oh, fatal lust why must you be a sin? A load warning is silenced with a "hush ." ((By "load" do you mean "low"?))Give me time to explain; I never meant to see you hurt. Guilt is my punishment. This darkness I gave you is now my pain. My devotion is now worth dirt. Loneliness is my punishment. Sylphiah ((This is all I have for revisements right now. ^^ I hope it's a little less bothersome.)) Yep, I think the change in the rhyming has definitely helped. ^^Sylphiah Yeah, also at my school I know that a few of the teachers goof off... Infact one day a teacher went off about a religious experiance she had and then basically bashed the Athiest and Agnostic religions. I was so pissed. I'm sitting there thinking, "Isn't this type of talk in school illigal?" She could definitely be fired for that, yeah. I find it amusing that she has a problem with agnostics, though, since there are a lot of agnostics who are also theistic and religious and some of the people she knows probably are agnostic even if they don't define themselves as such. Anyway, I would be rather pissed off, too. Personal beliefs are not for the classroom.Sylphiah I find I cant do a thing with writing/drawing when I have no inspiration... Thus, I tend to take forever to finish the most simple of things. ^^, I tend to be the same way. I can force myself to write, though, if I really try. I just lack motivation more than anything. But I managed to finish writng a 5k word story without having any real inspiration whatsoever. Makes me happy.Sylphiah I know. It's bogus how atheletic students who hardly pass get a free ride through collage and end up wasting what they were given, and students who are hardworking and talented are left paying. ((It especially pisses me off in cases where lowerclass children with so much potential are damned from the begining due to their "title".)) I agree. Completely.
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