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 Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:30 pm
Long story short, how do people feel about these programs?:
Pokésav: A Pokémon Save Editor that can edit pretty much anything: item counts, Pokémon, Wonder Cards, Mystery Gifts, Boxes; if you can name it, it can edit it. While it can be abused — like to create hacked Pokémon or to create really uber Pokémon with maxed out stats — it also has some uses to more-easily EV train, more-easily obtain hard-to-get moves, more-easily see IV scores, and some other uses.
Shoddy Battle: A Pokémon battle simulator made in Java that runs on all Java-capable operating systems. Updated to Generation IV, it'll simulate a Pokémon battle with the current generation of games.
While I don't mind Shoddy Battle at all — it sounds like a good way to sandbox and ready a team for real play — there are a lot of problems that I see with Pokésav if it's used for anything other than checking IVs. Even just checking IVs using it is a bit unfair, too, I think, but the ethics of that unfair action is kind of up in the air. What do you guys think?
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:44 pm
Pokesav? That sounds interesting, I wish I would've know about it before now ^^" but I guess if it can do everything for you it takes the fun out of training your pokemon on your own.
As for the battle thing, that sounds pretty cool, I'm gonna look that one up
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:50 pm
Pokésav is only really usable if you have a means of copying your game cartridge's save and transferring it to a computer. However, it can, really, edit everything. You can use it to make legal-to-use Pokémon in a flash so you don't have to waste the hours of breeding, EV training, IV guessing using Rare Candies (and, even getting 100 Rare Candies is a Battle-Tower chore), then getting the moves. However, I agree that it takes the fun out of it, and it's unfair for the people who cannot use the tool and have to make Pokémon the old-fashioned way.
Shoddy Battle is wonderful though. Supported by Smogon and all that, and it runs exactly like the battle engine in the games. You can even play with others there. But it's… Just not as fun as training and making your team, you know?
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:02 pm
Eh people always find a way to hack into everything. So then is that how they hack pokemon such as giving them wonderguard when they can't use it normally?
Yeah I'm trying the battle out now I just put my teams info into it to test it.
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:09 pm
I have my dark gym team on Shoddy Battle at the moment. Right now, it's not legal because I kept the IVs all at 31, which is definitely hard, if not impossible, to get.
And yeah, that's essentially how they did that. Action Replay can do that too, but not with the ease of how Pokésav can do it. Pokésav can even create Action Replay codes to plug in and mass-change a game.
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:19 pm
31 ivs all around isn't impossible you just have to really know what you're doing.
But yeah I don't see the point in hacking the game to make it easier. Maybe if you want an event pokemon and cant get to the event site or don't want to wait months for it to come out for the event items maybe but even still.
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:29 pm
One thing that I had planned to do with Pokésav, when I had a local group to play with, is make a hacked Diamond save on my flashcart to create a sharable Wonder Card that I can distribute with a custom Pokémon that I hacked at one point.
It was going to be a reward for a tournament, and we'd agree that I'd delete the hacked save after I transferred the gift, and that the person who won and got the gift would only use it in casual, non-competitive, battles.
It was an interesting way to distribute goodies.
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:54 pm
That sounds kinda complicated, you can even make wondercards? I thought those only came from nintendo. But what I don't understand is how they can't detect the fakes then, is there any way?
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:48 pm
x6LivexFree9x 31 ivs all around isn't impossible you just have to really know what you're doing. But yeah I don't see the point in hacking the game to make it easier. Maybe if you want an event pokemon and cant get to the event site or don't want to wait months for it to come out for the event items maybe but even still. event site???
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:01 pm
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:03 pm
XD
i dont know its your quote...i dont know what an event site is
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:05 pm
Yeah, you can make Wonder Cards with it. It's pretty simple, really:
Name the Wonder Card
Select the icons on it
Select what the card distributes (item, Pokémon, etc.)
Select the text on it
Allow it to be distributed and shared, or not
While there's no way to detect fake items that a hacked Wonder Card gives, Pokémon from hacked Wonder Cards have a red star on their image, denoting that it was from a Wonder Card (actually, some Pokémon, like Gamestop's Pikachu-coloured Pichu, has that star too), so it's easier to tell if a Pokémon was received in that way. And, the only way to detect fakes made by Pokésav is if the Trainer ID number and Secret ID number don't match (this is only for event Pokémon), or if the Pokémon have moves that are illegal to use or that they can't learn, if the Pokémon's stats aren't in-line with what should be normal, even with max IVs and EVs. So, so long as you keep within the confines of what looks legal, nobody can really tell if it's hacked or not. Edit: An event site is a place where Nintendo is hosting a special event. Some Pokémon or items can only be gained by going to the event.
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:27 pm
lol sorry yes as Lin said I meant event site as in a place you go such as toys r us or gamestop, sorry about that ^^"
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:32 pm
Reminds me of this editor I had way back when for my gen I and II versions...made completing the pokedex a load easier...
I wouldn't say funner though...
But having the entire pokedex, and all of them shiny was fun ^_^
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:40 pm
Lol yeah but having them all self caught/traded makes you feel really accomplished, I did it in my diamond game and it felt awesome. As for shiny though, there's only a handful that are good looking, most are either just horrible or just a slightly darker version of the normal.
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