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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:12 pm


Believing in the existence of God seems to be more and more of a problem for people. Some reject the belief because they don’t believe in anything they can’t understand. Some reject the belief because they want to live without restraints or guilt. Others reject the existence of God because of the existence of evil in the world. They find it very difficult to believe in the concept of a “Loving God” when so many good people suffer from natural disasters, disease or injustice. It is important for believers to address the problem of evil and whether it was created by God.

For years at a certain college, there was a professor with a reputation for being tough on Christians. At the first class every semester he asked if anyone was a Christian and proceeded to degrade and mock their statement of faith. One semester, he asked the question and a young man raised his hand when asked if anyone was a Christian. The professor asked, “Did God make everything, young man?” “Yes he did, sir,” the young man replied.

The professor responded, “If God made everything, then God made evil, and if we can only create from within ourselves, then God is evil.” The student didn’t have a response and the professor was happy to have once again proved the Christian faith to be a myth. Then another man raised his hand and asked, “May I ask you something, sir?” “Yes, you may,” responded the professor. The young man stood up and said, “Sir is there such a thing as cold?” “Of course, there is, what kind of a question is that? Haven’t you ever been cold?”

The young man replied, “Actually, sir, cold does not exist. What we consider to be cold is really only the absence of heat. Absolute zero is when there is absolutely no heat, but cold does not really exist. We have only created that term to describe how we feel when heat is not there.” The young man continued, “Sir is there such a thing as dark?” Once again the professor responded “Of course there is.” And once again, the student replied “Actually, sir, darkness does not exist. Darkness is really only the absence of light. Darkness is only a term man developed to describe what happens when there is no light present.”
Finally, the young man asked, “Sir is there such a thing as evil?” the professor responded, “Of course. We have rapes, murders and violence everywhere in the world, those things are evil.” The student replied, “Actually sir evil does not exist. Evil is simply the absence of God. Evil is a term man developed to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. It isn’t like truth or love, which exist as virtues like heat and light. Evil is simply the state where God is not present, like cold without heat or darkness without light.” The professor had nothing to say.

St. John wrote in his first letter: “God is love, and, he who abides in love abides in God and God abides in him.” God can not have created evil because there is no evil in God. Evil came into existence because God’s creatures rejected God’s law of love. They did not want to serve God nor did they trust that God had their best intentions at heart.

Part of the struggle to understand why evil exists has to do with the fact that love must be free. God gives people the freedom to love or not to love. In giving them this freedom, God must accept the fact that some people will not love. Their refusal to love is a refusal to allow God into their lives. So evil exists because people choose to banish God from their lives. Throughout history enough people have banished God from their lives that great evil has occurred. A reading of world history could easily leave a person without hope. However, Christians believe that Jesus came into the world to overcome evil with His loving presence and His willingness to die to save us from sin and hopelessness.

Fortified with the love of Jesus, Christians can make a difference in the world with the way they live their lives. They can bring the light of Christ and the warmth of His love to a wounded world. This has happened many times in the past 2,000 years and must continue until Jesus returns in glory.

Taken from http://www.fatherscott.com/weeklyreflection.php
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:18 pm


*simpler version*
God did not create evil.
God made everything, some people just put it to an evil use.
Example:
(evil: why its here)
Murder: Essential for us to know Jesus suffered on the cross. If it wasn't for this, he could of never died for us.

Porn: It first started with movies for entertainment. People just mixed sex with it.

Sex: Tecnolly not evil, this is what grows human population.

(Now to sum it up)
Everything else: If it wasn't for evil, we wouldn't pray. We pray for forgivness, for safty, so if there was no sin, most people would turn away from God because we would think that we don't need him.

^.^ Something like that ^.^

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:13 pm


God is not the creator of evil. God is the only good that is real. TO think that that God made evil is dening the fact that God can do no wrong in the first place. God can not break his own law or that would defeat the fact that he is God at all.

He is prefect and therefore can not sin in any sense> That is is why Jesus was a virgin and that he never killed a boy and brought him back to life when he was younger.


Evil was made when the angels choice not to follow God and then when Adam sinned in the garden.

Read the Shack by Young it is good even though he places God as a woman
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:22 pm


Wow! Oh man, I love that story.^^ I'd never heard (read) it until now, thank you for posting it.^^
Haha that dude got pwned. Serious logic trap.
It really answers questions. =]

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:05 pm


Wow the story itself is inspirational I'm not 100% sure that its actually true. I've heard that story since I was in 3rd grade and I'm in college now. Believe me a lot of Non-Christians have heard it as well.

For those of you who have said that God has not created evil, remember that you are following just one of several philosophical beliefs. Another says that we as humans simply don't understand what good is. That we have to change what we see as good to match how God see's good. And yet a third says that yes God did create evil but for a purpose. That God uses evil as an abstract in order for us to understand what is good. For how could we know what good is without the existence of evil?

As for the other statements made in this thread I feel almost a need to debunk them. Mentally Green, I wouldn't say that Murder is essential for us to know that Jesus suffered on the cross. As a matter of fact I wouldn't call Jesus dying on the cross Murder at all. If you read into the Bible he went through a trial, even though the trial itself wasn't completely legal and was found guilty by the people. He was then given the maximum punishment for the crimes he supposedly was committing.

Now we all understand that he didn't commit those crimes, that he was not in fact sinning. However the people of the day, the pharisees and the Sadducees did not. They fully believed that they were doing the right thing, and that they were doing God's will. Which is why I don't believe its fair to say that it's murder. Why murder exists is because of Cain. If you remember correctly Cain killed his brother in the heat of the moment.


Secondly Pornography didn't start with movies. As a matter of fact pornography didn't really open up in the United States until the 60's with Hue Hefner creating playboy (which started as a magazine). The reason that pornography became such a huge success is because the people of the 60's and 70's started pulling away from the things that they believed. They started rebelling against the basic theological teachings. However porn in its purest form can be traced all the way back to Ancient Greece. They loved the naked body and they loved sex. There were shrine prostitutes in Ancient Greece and it was so that sex could be practiced as a religion.


Lastly I wouldn't say that when Lucifer and his followers rebelled is necessarily when evil started. Lucifer is in fact evil but I would say it was before that. Remember the only reason that he rebelled was because he thought he was as good as God, so I would say that evil began when Lucifer first started getting prideful, and we as man don't know when that was
PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:58 pm


God did not create evil He gave us freewill because He wanted His unconditional love to be returned by our choice and the first sin here was when adam and eve decided to eat the fruit they both knew it was wrong they could have said no with their freewill but they did not. the fruit gave them the knowledge of what was good and what was bad. yes God knew what he was doing before He started creating and knew that we would turn away that satan would be prideful but He still went through with it because He knew one day that I would get saved that you and whoever else is saved would choose Him over the world over the lies. and would join Him in heaven the ends justified the means. and noone murdered Christ in fact He told pilate in John 19:10-11 Then saith Pilate unto him, Speadest thou not unto me: knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?
11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:11 pm


Well, god says he created evil.

ISAIAH 45:6-7
I am the Lord, and there is none else.
I form the light and create darkness:
I make peace, and create evil:
I the Lord do all these things.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:09 pm


i looked through as many translations as i could find and i got "disaster", "calamity", "discords", "[physical] evil (calamity)", "bad times", "sorrow", "troubles", and "hard times". you translate.

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