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Xtopher

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:36 pm


I know that a some of you guys are interested in archaeology, so I figured this topic wouldn't be out of place. Tonight, I get to go to a lecture by Robert Ballard, the oceanographer who discovered the wreck of the H.M.S. Titanic, the Lusitania, and several other impressive discoveries. My friend randomly knew some people and got tickets. Apparently they sell out pretty quick, as Ballard is a world-renowned pioneer in underwater archaeology. As a new archaeologist myself (still looking for a job >.<), I was very gracious for the opportunity. Some of the other more interesting stuff he has been involved in are the discoveries of ancient ships and sites under the Black Sea. Look it up online if you are more interested. It's all very fascinating to someone who is into archaeology. I'll post more about the lecture tomorrow probably. I'm so excited!
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:33 am


Being a student of criminal justice and as such having only a basic grasp of archaeology.. Where exactly do archaeologists find jobs? O_o

Sounds interesting though! I wouldn't mind exploring an underwater wreck or two. And maybe find it swarming with Crab People too! gonk

Annie Anthrax


Lord Ashen

PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:20 am


I am so jealous. Put a summary of what was said on here when you get back for us lovers of history smile
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:51 am


As an aficionado of history, and particularly the Titanic catastrophe, I cannot WAIT to hear more. <3


insultaflower

Crew

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Xtopher

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:09 am


Okay, sorry for not posting sooner, I was booked yesterday. The lecture was absolutely wonderful. Robert Ballard is an amazing public speaker. That combined with how fascinating the subject matter was made for an amazing 2 hours.

Before I begin with the summary: @Annie Anthrax, Archaeologists can be hired for many different types of jobs including positions at CRM firms, architectural engineering firms, working for the government on civic projects, and consulting just to name a few. Currently I'm looking for an entry level position as a field/lab technician.

Since Dr. Ballard spoke on many subjects I will break up my posts for easier reading
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:32 am


Robert Ballard begun his speech with his inspiration for wanting to study the ocean floor. He spoke about his favorite book as a child, our own Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, and the first scene where the protagonist witnesses out of a window from the Nautilus the underwater walk of the crew during the funeral ceremony of their crewmates who had died in an earlier naval engagement. To Ballard, the idea of walking on the sea floor, something he had never thought of before then, was fascinating.

His first expedition experience was when he was 17. He was lucky enough to have been accepted to a scholarship program that he had entered at the suggestion of an oceanographer. I don't remember exactly what they were doing, but 500 miles out to sea they hit a nasty storm. They were in 45 foot swells. Now as long as the swells aren't too bad and the captain can keep the boat facing the swells head on, you just have to ride it out, but the ocean pushed them miles away from where they were. Ballard talks about this storm as fun, and even likened it to roller coasters which he was a big fan of at the time.
Then they hit a rogue wave, which is when multiple weather patterns converge and instead of canceling each other out they amplify. Yeah, time for panic. Ballard says he remembers staring at this 100 foot wave coming towards them and thinking, "We're not going to go over that." The wave hits and they take on green water, which Ballard tells us meant that they were underwater. Luckily they had enough residual buoyancy to bring them back up to the surface and they made it through with their ship a little worse for wear. Ballard remembers thinking with a sense of excitement and awe, "That was a wave." Ever since then he was hooked.

Xtopher


Xtopher

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:51 am


Ballard mentioned a bit about the Gaia Hypothesis and how he believes the world is a living thing. He compared people considering the planet not being alive to how a mayfly (which lives for about 4 days) not considering the tree it lands on as alive.

Ballard continued his speech with an explanation of Plate Tectonics, which I will not go on to describe here as it will take too long and I'm sure most of you at least understand the basic principles behind it. But I will tell you that his brief explanation was in some ways more in depth and informative than the class I took on the subject. Even though I've studied plate tectonics, I learned a lot. Robert Ballard is first an oceanographer. His exploits in underwater archaeology made his famous to the general public, but within the scientific community he was already a legend for his amazing discoveries on the sea floor. He spoke about thermal vents and correctly judged where they would be, furthering plate tectonics and rewriting the book on some subjects.

Some of the things he spoke about finding are mind-blowing. He spoke of brine pools, which if you haven't heard of before are awesome concentrations of high-salinity water that, when viewed, look like lakes with their own distinguishable shorelines,...underwater! You can even make waves on them that you see,...underwater! These pools are often homes to many extremophiles. Near these pools they found bacteria they are strong enough to travel through space. Origins of life on the planet?

They also discovered this cool thing they named a "lost city," which is like an underwater stalagmite. Like in caves, when water percolates down into caves, it picks up minerals, and as the water drips into the cave, the downward drip creates stalactites hanging from the ceiling, and stalagmites built up from the drips hitting the floor. Lost cities are something similar to both in a very strange way that I know the mad scientists in this guild will love. The source of these lost cities are pools like the brine pools that are on the bottom of overhangs of rock. You read that correctly. Underneath overhangings of rock, pools form that are distinct, like the brine pools. When they reach the edge of the overhang, they drip upwards! That is why I say they resemble both stalactites and stalagmites, because they are shaped like stalagmites, but are formed by a downward drip,...that goes upwards! Isn't that great in a mad scientist sort of way?! Does your head hurt yet? Told you. Mind-blowing.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:15 am


Now on to the Archaeology.

Ballard made a point to mention that all of his most important discoveries were entirely on accident. His 1985 expedition to find the H.M.S. Titanic was not actually there to find the Titanic. Confused? Ballard used to work for Naval intelligence. So when he wanted to find the Titanic, the Navy funded it and used it as a clever cover for his real purpose. This is recently declassified information. Ballard even said that 4 years ago last time he spoke at this same school, De Anza College in Cupertino, CA, he had to lie about the motivation behind finding the Titanic. In reality, there were 2 downed nuclear submarines conveniently located on either side of where the Titanic had reportedly gone down.

So it was Ballard's job to find both submarines and access the condition of the nuclear reactors and containment, and to see if and how they were affecting the environment. The methods they used to find the submarines gave Ballard a good idea as to how he was going to find the Titanic, and sure enough, He found all three wrecks, and the media sensation of "raising the titanic" skyrocketed Ballard to mainstream fame. Of course they left out the part about the 2 nuclear submarines.

Xtopher


Xtopher

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:40 am


When Ballard decided where he wanted to search for ancient wrecks, he picked what he thought would be a nice small area to focus on. He picked the Mediterranean. Now Ballard was used to searching for stuff in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans, so when he decided on the Mediterranean he thought it was tiny. When he actually got there he discovered otherwise, but never mind that. On to the archaeology!

Ballard wanted to find the "highway" between Carthage and Rome. Back when Carthage was still a superpower competing with Rome, they were constantly getting into wars. But when they weren't busy killing each other, they traded with each other, a lot. Ballard looked on a map at where Carthage and Rome are located. He then proceeded with an intense scientific process which consisted of him getting a ruler and drawing a straight line between the two. Logically, this is where they trade route should be. He also surmised that although people of antiquity were different in many ways, they were still human. In this case, sailors. And what do you think sailors, who had a long trip ahead of them, with a ship full of beer did along the way? If you answered drink the booze then you are correct.

Ballard also thought about what happened when you were done drinking on a boat. You tossed the empties overboard. They way Ballard figured it, somewhere under the Mediterranean there was a road without an Adopt-A-Highway program, so he was going to look for those empties. He was right. After trolling along the bottom, they found about a four mile wide area stretching the length of the distance between Carthage (modern day Tunisia) and Rome that was covered in empties, called amphorae.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:12 pm


Some of you are probably familiar with the Black Sea deluge theory, where during the Holocene, the Mediterranean spilled over into what was a valley with a lake, creating the Black and Caspian Seas. Some hypothesize that this is the probable origins for the many flood myths in surrounding cultures, i.e. Noah's Flood. Since the Black and Caspian seas are not directly connected to the Mediterranean, they are technically lakes. These is no oxygen in these lakes to foster the growth of the usual critters found underwater; the same critters that contribute to decay. This means that things are remarkably preserved. Ballard showed us a slide of a wooden plank off of an ancient (I think Roman) ship, where you could still see the chopping marks from where the shipbuilders shaped the wood with an adze! In one of the ancient Phoenician ships he is currently excavating, he expects to bring up the preserved bodies of the crew! In tact DNA of people from thousands of years ago!

The Black Sea was also the site of many more recent naval battles and operations. There are wrecks from World War 1 and 2, and still more recent wrecks. Ballard showed a picture of a wrecked Soviet helicopter that is perfectly preserved, paint and all.

Some of the most exciting discoveries (at least for me) on the floor of the Black sea though, are not ships. During their search, Ballard and his team found what looked like rings underwater on the floor. Upon closer inspection they were revealed to be henges dating back to 9000 years ago! It was discoveries like this that furthered support for theories such as the Black Sea deluge theory. These henges had to be built by someone 9000 years ago, and they were definitely on dry land when built.

Xtopher


Xtopher

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:25 pm


Ballard also spoke at length about the future of remote exploration. What they have set up now, is that they have several experts in different fields, who are all in charge of specific parts of Ballard's explorations. He likened them to doctors on call. All of them are connected through their wireless laptops and direct phone lines. So when the exploration crew discovers something on the sea floor, they can call their experts around the world, live stream the footage from the remote probes, and the experts can tell them how to proceed. Amazing.

Ballard also mentioned how the Internet2 will revolutionize educational communication. I'm not understating it's importance, but I'm tired of writing, as I'm sure you are of reading my little summary here. If you want to learn more about Internet2, wiki it. It's all pretty interesting, I just don't know that much about it. For a comparison, Ballard said the Internet2 makes the Internet look like a dirt road.


So that's my summary of the whole event. I bet none of you thought it would be this long. I didn't either, but once I started writing and the words started flowing out, I knew it was going to be a monster. I hope you enjoyed it, and if there are any questions I'll try to answer them. I may even decide to toss in a few more bits of information as I remember them. Thanks for reading, and sharing my passion.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:56 pm


Thanks for posting it. It was fascinating to read.

Lord Ashen



insultaflower

Crew

Questionable Humorist

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:10 am


This WILL be a fascinating read, when I have time to comb through all of it. ^^;
In the meantime, were you aware...


Quote:
On 15 April 1912 the SS Titanic sunk on her maiden voyage and over 1,500 people died. Fourteen years earlier a novel was published by Morgan Robertson which seemed to foretell the disaster. The book described a ship the same size as the Titanic which crashes into an iceberg on its maiden voyage on a misty April night. The name of Robertson's fictional ship was the Titan.


Fun fact. :]
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:07 am


Annie Anthrax
Being a student of criminal justice and as such having only a basic grasp of archaeology.. Where exactly do archaeologists find jobs? O_o

Sounds interesting though! I wouldn't mind exploring an underwater wreck or two. And maybe find it swarming with Crab People too! gonk


We find jobs pretty easily actually. Archaeology is a booming industry right now in many parts of the world. In many cities in Canada we require preliminary archaeolgy done for every major or mining building project, so lots of corporations hire archaeology. Plus universities hire, which are harder to do, but teams of archaeologists are normally pretty large. I know several archaeologists who have their own firms nd work independently. I don't know what the laws in Europe are like, but I imagine in places like Greece or Italy or Turkey, extensive premlinary archaeology is probably necessary.

Sidnay


Xtopher

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:41 pm


Sidnay
I don't know what the laws in Europe are like, but I imagine in places like Greece or Italy or Turkey, extensive premlinary archaeology is probably necessary.


Oh God yes, Italy especially. You really cannot do construction or dig anywhere in the cities and NOT hit something. There's so many field schools in Italy it isn't funny.
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