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 Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:44 pm
i was raised christian till 12 my mom and dad died in a car accident going to the store i never really paid attention to god after that now i just dont see why i should even believe in a god who kills people and if they didnt love him burns them for eternity
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:18 pm
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:44 pm
If you see no good reason to be a Christian, then maybe you shouldn't be one...
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:56 pm
You shouldn't have to try to force yourself to believe something that doesn't sit right with you.
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:05 pm
Ben Rack i was raised christian till 12 my mom and dad died in a car accident going to the store i never really paid attention to god after that now i just dont see why i should even believe in a god who kills people and if they didnt love him burns them for eternity Are you asking out of pain or a hypothetical situation? If you are asking because you are still hurt, I sympathize for you. Regardless of your situation I don't think most people will tell you how to believe here. In terms of a hypothetical situation you are asking for us to refute a negative (it would've been that way if the former was the intention anyway, but I see no point in trying to kick people when they're down). That can't be done. It just can't. I say if you don't believe that way you don't believe that way. There are plenty of non-Christians who live fulfilling lives.
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:12 pm
4shi Ben Rack i was raised christian till 12 my mom and dad died in a car accident going to the store i never really paid attention to god after that now i just dont see why i should even believe in a god who kills people and if they didnt love him burns them for eternity Are you asking out of pain or a hypothetical situation? If you are asking because you are still hurt, I sympathize for you. Regardless of your situation I don't think most people will tell you how to believe here. In terms of a hypothetical situation you are asking for us to refute a negative (it would've been that way if the former was the intention anyway, but I see no point in trying to kick people when they're down). That can't be done. It just can't. I say if you don't believe that way you don't believe that way. There are plenty of non-Christians who live fulfilling lives. ( im not sure what you mean are you asking out of a hpeathetical) Im asking becouse ive had four pastors visit my house in the last four months none of which i felt had any good reasons for me to beleive in god.(and i also would like to know -this sounds corny- can feel this hole in my heart-weed does it normally, but im running out of money-)
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:14 pm
Ben, may I pm you? I think this sounds like some stuff that may need to be addressed concerning your personal life.
ADD: by "hypothetical question" I mean something that was speculative, a "let's say this happened" type of question.
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:33 pm
4shi Ben, may I pm you? I think this sounds like some stuff that may need to be addressed concerning your personal life. ADD: by "hypothetical question" I mean something that was speculative, a "let's say this happened" type of question. sure, but if your going to argue christianity your going to have to make good behinds
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:40 pm
Ben Rack 4shi Ben Rack i was raised christian till 12 my mom and dad died in a car accident going to the store i never really paid attention to god after that now i just dont see why i should even believe in a god who kills people and if they didnt love him burns them for eternity Are you asking out of pain or a hypothetical situation? If you are asking because you are still hurt, I sympathize for you. Regardless of your situation I don't think most people will tell you how to believe here. In terms of a hypothetical situation you are asking for us to refute a negative (it would've been that way if the former was the intention anyway, but I see no point in trying to kick people when they're down). That can't be done. It just can't. I say if you don't believe that way you don't believe that way. There are plenty of non-Christians who live fulfilling lives. ( im not sure what you mean are you asking out of a hpeathetical) Im asking becouse ive had four pastors visit my house in the last four months none of which i felt had any good reasons for me to beleive in god.(and i also would like to know -this sounds corny- can feel this hole in my heart-weed does it normally, but im running out of money-) It sounds to me like this is not so much about religion as it is about grieving. Have you considered counselling? It could be really helpful
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:15 pm
Ben Rack 4shi Ben Rack i was raised christian till 12 my mom and dad died in a car accident going to the store i never really paid attention to god after that now i just dont see why i should even believe in a god who kills people and if they didnt love him burns them for eternity Are you asking out of pain or a hypothetical situation? If you are asking because you are still hurt, I sympathize for you. Regardless of your situation I don't think most people will tell you how to believe here. In terms of a hypothetical situation you are asking for us to refute a negative (it would've been that way if the former was the intention anyway, but I see no point in trying to kick people when they're down). That can't be done. It just can't. I say if you don't believe that way you don't believe that way. There are plenty of non-Christians who live fulfilling lives. ( im not sure what you mean are you asking out of a hpeathetical) Im asking becouse ive had four pastors visit my house in the last four months none of which i felt had any good reasons for me to beleive in god.(and i also would like to know -this sounds corny- can feel this hole in my heart-weed does it normally, but im running out of money-) Challenge God to give you a good reason. I could try, but I doubt me convincing you would do any good. xp PS:Sorry about your parents. I wish I could help.
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:22 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Ben Rack 4shi Ben Rack i was raised christian till 12 my mom and dad died in a car accident going to the store i never really paid attention to god after that now i just dont see why i should even believe in a god who kills people and if they didnt love him burns them for eternity Are you asking out of pain or a hypothetical situation? If you are asking because you are still hurt, I sympathize for you. Regardless of your situation I don't think most people will tell you how to believe here. In terms of a hypothetical situation you are asking for us to refute a negative (it would've been that way if the former was the intention anyway, but I see no point in trying to kick people when they're down). That can't be done. It just can't. I say if you don't believe that way you don't believe that way. There are plenty of non-Christians who live fulfilling lives. ( im not sure what you mean are you asking out of a hpeathetical) Im asking becouse ive had four pastors visit my house in the last four months none of which i felt had any good reasons for me to beleive in god.(and i also would like to know -this sounds corny- can feel this hole in my heart-weed does it normally, but im running out of money-) Challenge God to give you a good reason. I could try, but I doubt me convincing you would do any good. xp PS:Sorry about your parents. I wish I could help. Ummm... ever heard "Do not put the Lord your God to the test" I'm quite sure challenging God to give you a reason would count as testing God.
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:07 pm
Esselean xxEternallyBluexx Ben Rack 4shi Ben Rack i was raised christian till 12 my mom and dad died in a car accident going to the store i never really paid attention to god after that now i just dont see why i should even believe in a god who kills people and if they didnt love him burns them for eternity Are you asking out of pain or a hypothetical situation? If you are asking because you are still hurt, I sympathize for you. Regardless of your situation I don't think most people will tell you how to believe here. In terms of a hypothetical situation you are asking for us to refute a negative (it would've been that way if the former was the intention anyway, but I see no point in trying to kick people when they're down). That can't be done. It just can't. I say if you don't believe that way you don't believe that way. There are plenty of non-Christians who live fulfilling lives. ( im not sure what you mean are you asking out of a hpeathetical) Im asking becouse ive had four pastors visit my house in the last four months none of which i felt had any good reasons for me to beleive in god.(and i also would like to know -this sounds corny- can feel this hole in my heart-weed does it normally, but im running out of money-) Challenge God to give you a good reason. I could try, but I doubt me convincing you would do any good. xp PS:Sorry about your parents. I wish I could help. Ummm... ever heard "Do not put the Lord your God to the test" I'm quite sure challenging God to give you a reason would count as testing God. I've heard that but I thought it applied to doing something like saying, 'God if you love me prove it by letting me have a snow day tomorrow', not asking Him whether He's real or not. I thought we're supposed to ask for answers, even in challenge form?
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:17 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Esselean xxEternallyBluexx Ben Rack 4shi Ben Rack i was raised christian till 12 my mom and dad died in a car accident going to the store i never really paid attention to god after that now i just dont see why i should even believe in a god who kills people and if they didnt love him burns them for eternity Are you asking out of pain or a hypothetical situation? If you are asking because you are still hurt, I sympathize for you. Regardless of your situation I don't think most people will tell you how to believe here. In terms of a hypothetical situation you are asking for us to refute a negative (it would've been that way if the former was the intention anyway, but I see no point in trying to kick people when they're down). That can't be done. It just can't. I say if you don't believe that way you don't believe that way. There are plenty of non-Christians who live fulfilling lives. ( im not sure what you mean are you asking out of a hpeathetical) Im asking becouse ive had four pastors visit my house in the last four months none of which i felt had any good reasons for me to beleive in god.(and i also would like to know -this sounds corny- can feel this hole in my heart-weed does it normally, but im running out of money-) Challenge God to give you a good reason. I could try, but I doubt me convincing you would do any good. xp PS:Sorry about your parents. I wish I could help. Ummm... ever heard "Do not put the Lord your God to the test" I'm quite sure challenging God to give you a reason would count as testing God. I've heard that but I thought it applied to doing something like saying, 'God if you love me prove it by letting me have a snow day tomorrow', not asking Him whether He's real or not. I thought we're supposed to ask for answers, even in challenge form? How would you challenge God to give you a reason?
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:23 pm
I never really had any reason to believe in god.
With a crack-addict mom, a dad that I haven't seen since my birth, a grand-mother that recently died (And the only person I really felt truly loved me), A brother that takes advantage of everyone he sees, and just in general a horrible life, I think that it is quite fair that I don't believe in him, considering that everyone else in my family does, and they don't get s**t for it. I've never seen anything that proves him, and I've always felt like there was a hole in my heart that was only partially filled by a belief in God, I turned away.
And many things in The Bible I disagree with.
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:43 pm
Semiremis xxEternallyBluexx Esselean xxEternallyBluexx Ben Rack ( im not sure what you mean are you asking out of a hpeathetical) Im asking becouse ive had four pastors visit my house in the last four months none of which i felt had any good reasons for me to beleive in god.(and i also would like to know -this sounds corny- can feel this hole in my heart-weed does it normally, but im running out of money-) Challenge God to give you a good reason. I could try, but I doubt me convincing you would do any good. xp PS:Sorry about your parents. I wish I could help. Ummm... ever heard "Do not put the Lord your God to the test" I'm quite sure challenging God to give you a reason would count as testing God. I've heard that but I thought it applied to doing something like saying, 'God if you love me prove it by letting me have a snow day tomorrow', not asking Him whether He's real or not. I thought we're supposed to ask for answers, even in challenge form? How would you challenge God to give you a reason? 'God, if you're real, show me.' That simple. He's supposed to answer sooner or later.
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