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 Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:57 pm
I don't think I'll ever understand what people mean by "Wanna-be" when it comes to languages . Some people tend to think that if you learn a language , study it , and maybe listen to music or read books in your desired language youre ultimately a 'wanna-be' , and want to become whatever race speaks the languge .
Have you ever been confronted of this ?
I remember a while ago when I was learning Japanese , I told one of my Chinese friends , and she was .. a bit weird , and told me that while I was learning it to just 'maintain my culture' . And I guess when I annoyed or argued with her she would use comments like "Well at least I'm not an Asian Wannabe like you are!", and it was really hurtful to be honest , because I am not a wannabe . Like , Asians are cool and all , but I'm proud of my culture and race (British/French) .
I noticed this generally happens to white people learning Asian languages .. why do you think this is ? neutral Other than maybe the anime thing LOL. I don't read or watch anime at all though , juss to let you know .
And why do you think people start to think you're a wannabe if you learn a language entirely out of the ordinary ?
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:38 am
I haven't encountered it, but I think I know what you mean.
I think a lot of people are sort of jaded because of the Japanophiles that run rampant on the internet. The ones who short out "kawaii desu ne? ^___^" and don't know a word of the language or even bother learning it. This might've made some people sort of jaded to people who are learning Japanese, thinking they aren't really serious about it.
Just a guess. I know when I see someone learning Japanese, especially on Gaia, usually they don't seem too serious about it and just spout off very simple words.
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:35 am
Thats what my family tells me when i'm studying Japanese razz
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:07 pm
TheFluffyElf I haven't encountered it, but I think I know what you mean. I think a lot of people are sort of jaded because of the Japanophiles that run rampant on the internet. The ones who short out "kawaii desu ne? ^___^" and don't know a word of the language or even bother learning it. This might've made some people sort of jaded to people who are learning Japanese, thinking they aren't really serious about it. Just a guess. I know when I see someone learning Japanese, especially on Gaia, usually they don't seem too serious about it and just spout off very simple words. I agree that this is probably the reason. I get the wannabe comment a lot even though I'm serious and I tell people my main reason for learning Japanese is because I want to go to school there, but even if I don't get in I'd still continue with Japanese.
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:08 pm
I study languages for languages. I like words.
It sounds harsh, but I care about culture as a way to learn the language and use it correctly, and little else.
So anyone who accuses me of "wanting to be like" the people in any hispanic country, in Russia or the former Soviet Republics, Germany, Japan, China... Totally wrong. I want to know enough about them to understand them, and nothing more.
What can I say? I'm heartless.
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:19 pm
A lot of people will look at it as 'well they don't have a cultural identity so they're seeking one they like', and for the most part that is true, but there are people who learn a language because it's useful for the area the reside in or wish to visit, it may be sex to the ears, or maybe they're just terribly bored; there's a plethora of reasons and whichever is yours is your own.
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:52 am
I can't remember ever being called a wannabe, but I have been accused of abandoning my own culture by learning languages, and also of being less American. But I guess I was asking for weird comments when I started learning multiple Middle Eastern languages. My teacher saw my Farsi notebook yesterday and told me it was really creepy. eek
I don't see anything wrong with learning a language out of a love for a culture, even though I tend to become interested in a culture once I've learned its language. But I don't think that anyone has to like their culture less in order to also be interested in another. I have a friend who likes to travel because he appreciates his own home and culture when he does.
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:14 pm
Hmm. Thats a funny one. I have never experienced anyone calling me that. I can understand what you mean when a non-asian people trying to learn a asian language. To me i find it very fasinating to see a non asian speaking lets say Japanese or chinese. I suppose its because its quite uncommon where i am and also i find i'm often in awe of them when they are fluent because those languages look so hard.
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:02 am
I've never gotten that reaction from people when I try to learn other languages from another eh....ethnic group.
My friends and people I meet are mostly happy, "honored", and/or "proud of me" for trying to learning them.
*shrug*
I do get weird looks for my intention of learning Arabic though...
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:27 am
well when i watched digimon dubbed in indonesian, she said that i'm indonesian wanna-be.
when i learned japanese language, she said that i'm a japanese wanna-be.
kinda feel hurt when she said such things. its not a sin to learn other ppl's culture and languages. its a step towards international brotherhood. sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:54 am
I live in Texas in a small town and I'm on year 5 of studying Spanish and I have nearly reached fluent level, finally. I've learned all the grammar and vocab on paper, but I haven't been able to use anything past second year stuff practically. I'm working on using the advanced tenses practically now.
I get teased all the time for being able to use Spanish practically. One of my best girlfriends and I will go out to a flea market and they act like I'm not even there, because she looks Hispanic, but doesn't know a lick of the language.
And I run into a lot of trash from the White Supremacists down here too, especially because I'm marrying into a Mexican family. It's really hard to find friends because there just aren't interracial relationships down here, and the fact that I'm trying to learn more about the culture and language just makes it worse.
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:19 pm
Ive been called a Wannabe-Dansker xD
It was by a 13 year old. Needless to say, I dont give a s**t wink
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:18 pm
I take Japanese at school and very recently I was called a wannabe-Asian by two of my close friends. I doubt they meant it as an insult but personally I was shocked.
I take Japanese because it is the only language offered at my school, and it is simply from my love of language that I am the best student. I'm planning to take either Italian or Russian once I graduate high school, and getting an A in both English and Japanese is a way to prove to myself and to my future university that I can handle a foreign language with ease.
However, I've never wished to be Japanese. Taking a language that belongs to a race different from mine does not automatically assume that I want to be of that race.
I wish people understood that.
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:13 pm
I was talking to this girl in my French class because she was asking me how I study Japanese, why, to say things, etc... and so I explained what got me interested, mostly taking Aikido since I was 5 and some popculture (and I just really really like the language) and she's like "Haha wow. You really love Japan don't you?" Didn't call me a wana-be, but it had that tone you know? I don't wanna be Japanese. I'm not even a Japanophile- to be honest their culture isn't very appealing to me, even though I like studying it (I like anthropology so studying culture is fun, but certain aspects of their culture and how they act as a society just sort of throws me off)
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:14 pm
Kid_kun well when i watched digimon dubbed in indonesian, she said that i'm indonesian wanna-be. when i learned japanese language, she said that i'm a japanese wanna-be. kinda feel hurt when she said such things. its not a sin to learn other ppl's culture and languages. its a step towards international brotherhood. sweatdrop But women exist too.... emo
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