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Tirissana

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:42 am


In the M&R and in another guild there's a debate asking if Messianic Jews are actually Jews.

A few people claim that Orthodox Jews think that those who have mothers who are Jewish, are Jews themselves. And there are a few Christians that claim that since Jesus was a Jew, then Messianics are Jews too.

So here's the question, Are Messianics actually Jews? What makes them Jews. If they aren't Jewish, then what makes them not Jewish? Does the whole Jewish community agree that Messianics aren't Jews?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:08 am


B"H
They can NOT be jewish unless by race from mother or conversion....(Not messianc conversion). The Jews are WAITING for the Meshiac, if you think jesus is the Mashiac well then you are christan.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:47 am


talk2hand I know you want to bring the debate from the "Debate/ Discuss Religion" guild to the Jewish Gaians Guild, but we already have several threads about this.

Yes, I am a member of both guilds, too, remember?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:52 am


For those who don't know about what I speak..

I followed In Medias Res IV into this guild about a month ago:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/?guild_id=250593&_gaia_t_=1272

IMR's a member.
I'm a member.
Tsukyio's a member.

IN the "Debate/ Discuss Judaism" subforum, this came up a few days ago:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=16794783

And now a duplicate thread shows up in the JGG...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:53 am


Lumanny the Space Jew
talk2hand I know you want to bring the debate from the "Debate/ Discuss Religion" guild to the Jewish Gaians Guild, but we already have several threads about this.

Yes, I am a member of both guilds, too, remember?


That guild gives me a bloody headache.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:56 am


In Medias Res IV
Lumanny the Space Jew
talk2hand I know you want to bring the debate from the "Debate/ Discuss Religion" guild to the Jewish Gaians Guild, but we already have several threads about this.

Yes, I am a member of both guilds, too, remember?


That guild gives me a bloody headache.

Yes, it does the same to me sometimes...

But, seriously, with all the J4J threads here already you just had to make a new one because of the M&R idiocy guild? Really?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:02 am


Lumanny the Space Jew
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Lumanny the Space Jew
talk2hand I know you want to bring the debate from the "Debate/ Discuss Religion" guild to the Jewish Gaians Guild, but we already have several threads about this.

Yes, I am a member of both guilds, too, remember?


That guild gives me a bloody headache.

Yes, it does the same to me sometimes...

But, seriously, with all the J4J threads here already you just had to make a new one because of the M&R idiocy guild? Really?


I made a thread as Flavius Josephus in the M&R and I think she just made it here to see what Jews actually think about Messianic Jews.

Personally, I don't think we actually care. You know I do it for the kicks and to annoy everyone from the M&R.

It's the same response I give people when they ask "What do Jews think of Jesus?"

I just look at them and say "Jews don't think much of Jesus, he's just not a part of our world. If he existed and if he was a Jew (I have my doubts) then I'm sure he was a good rabbi, otherwise, he's just not up for discussion".
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:06 am


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Lumanny the Space Jew
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Lumanny the Space Jew
talk2hand I know you want to bring the debate from the "Debate/ Discuss Religion" guild to the Jewish Gaians Guild, but we already have several threads about this.

Yes, I am a member of both guilds, too, remember?


That guild gives me a bloody headache.

Yes, it does the same to me sometimes...

But, seriously, with all the J4J threads here already you just had to make a new one because of the M&R idiocy guild? Really?


I made a thread as Flavius Josephus in the M&R and I think she just made it here to see what Jews actually think about Messianic Jews.

Personally, I don't think we actually care. You know I do it for the kicks and to annoy everyone from the M&R.

It's the same response I give people when they ask "What do Jews think of Jesus?"

I just look at them and say "Jews don't think much of Jesus, he's just not a part of our world. If he existed and if he was a Jew (I have my doubts) then I'm sure he was a good rabbi, otherwise, he's just not up for discussion".

I claim this answer in the name of Lumanny Lumannocity.
And I did not know you were also Flavius Josephus..

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:37 am


Lumanny the Space Jew
talk2hand I know you want to bring the debate from the "Debate/ Discuss Religion" guild to the Jewish Gaians Guild, but we already have several threads about this.

Yes, I am a member of both guilds, too, remember?
I tried looking for those threads early this morning, but I couldn't find them and sleep was calling. >.<

Not to mention it's calling me now...I should not be awake at 1 am. >.<
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:46 am


-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden
Lumanny the Space Jew
talk2hand I know you want to bring the debate from the "Debate/ Discuss Religion" guild to the Jewish Gaians Guild, but we already have several threads about this.

Yes, I am a member of both guilds, too, remember?
I tried looking for those threads early this morning, but I couldn't find them and sleep was calling. >.<

Not to mention it's calling me now...I should not be awake at 1 am. >.<

Fine, go to bed and check the back pages later; a couple of them come to mind from back when I was bored and pspent a couple weeks skimming through them all..

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:12 pm


Messianic Jews =/= Jews for one reason: they worship Jesus.
Worship a human being as your G-d is the antithesis of Judaism! The sheer arrogance involved in calling yourself a god, or at least a demigod, disgusts me!
PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:48 am


A lot of them aren't even Jews ethnically. They're gentiles who think accepting Jesus makes you a Jew.

In short, they're tossers.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:11 pm


DanskiWolf
A lot of them aren't even Jews ethnically. They're gentiles who think accepting Jesus makes you a Jew.

In short, they're tossers.

I'm afraid that's a description I might have used in the back of my mind.
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