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To each their own, I say. I, for one, think its a bit of a double standard, what most women want in rights. Example, they say they want equal treatment in everything, but when the bill comes for dinner, do they want to pay half? Nope, they epect the dude to pay the whole thing, 'cause it's what the guy is supposed to do. I'm sure there are more lik you out there, you just have to seek them out. Some people like to get it put to them, and some don't, nothin' can change that.

Okay. Well, I guess I disagree with you.

I agree that it's nice to be treated like a "lady", but most of the time I prefer to be treated as "one of the guys" or just like anyone else. Sure, I can appreciate a gentleman, but mostly I think it's just funny and unnecessary.

And while i do think that some feminists are going on the extreme, the cause is pretty justified. I hate feeling second just because I'm female, and that kind of discrimination also tends to lead to discrimination based on my race (I'm a minority) and my sexual orientation.

And actually, I always pay half or all of the bills, because I think that's fair and I hate the pressure it puts on other people to have to pay for me.

To each their own, I say. I, for one, think its a bit of a double standard, what most women want in rights. Example, they say they want equal treatment in everything, but when the bill comes for dinner, do they want to pay half? Nope, they epect the dude to pay the whole thing, 'cause it's what the guy is supposed to do. I'm sure there are more lik you out there, you just have to seek them out. Some people like to get it put to them, and some don't, nothin' can change that.

I pretty much agree with you. it seems some women are into having the same status as men and keeping the benefits of being the "weaker gender". in other words they want to be treated like fragile princesses but at the same time they want to be kings.

well said. As for me, I don't have the big problem for I am with a girl, we usually just take turns with paying for things, it's just easier and more fair that way, though we don't keep tabs, it's usually just whoever has money at the time or who can get to their wallet first.. i think some women want to much power and take things to far (e.g. The right to go topless in public like men do.. no this is not Europe, this is Canada I am speaking about) What self respecting women would do that? I wouldn't. We're different genders and thus we are treated slightly different, it's just how nature works. I don't think sexism is a good thing, don't get me wrong, but people's dads treat their daughters different from their sons. (E.G. walking home late at night, yeah guys can walk home pretty easily, ya know being able to usually defend themselves if something happens but when women walk home at night you don't know what's going to happen to you, you don't know if that guy following behind you is going to jump you, rape you and kill you.. thus we have pepper spray mrgreen While guys usually use their fist to cause pain) There's always a line between men and women, it can't be helped. There's rights that women need, like the right to work, voting, etc. but some just take it to far.. makes me wonder if they forget they're women and not men.

the difference in genders is created from ignorance...well yes girls are the main target for rape...but that dosent mean a girl couldnt defend herself...in society girls are raised...like..."girls" and not people...if everyone was raised and treated the same...then things would be alot different...idk if fo rhte better...but it would be different

*sigh*... my "favourite" subject isn't it... the difference between women and men... to tel you the truth, I see none, but I just noticed (and I clearly state I'm PERFECTLY sure it's ABSOLUTELY NOT all the time like this, just stating my experiances...) that even though women are stronger mentally, when they get on the lead, something erm... "hits them" and they become more agressive in what they do. And the women I saw use what they can to proove just how worse men are then them sweatdrop
Where I for instance don't give a damn and concider both genders equal... still, it doesn't stop me from getting "my share of the beating"...
It just freaks me out eek
Another subject... I have to agree with mr. Apollo on the fact that Chivalry is not dead, since that would mean my life is a lie sweatdrop

And about sex discrimination... well, with all the feminists running around yelling how they want equal rights, calling all men pigs etc (again, I'm just stating my own experiances, so I might not be right with all cases) actually I'm the one who feels discriminated here eek
Since there's noone to stand in my defence, and if I only try to look at a girl "in a wrong way" I could get severly yelled at, and I don't even want to start on what could happen to me if I accidentally touch someone sweatdrop

woo that goes in my book of quotes lol

Hmm.. I think both genders are sexist, not really because of society and upbringing but because we are different sexes. Being a bit of a geek and loving video games and a female, men tend to thing I'm pathetic at video games even though women can be just as effective and successful players. I hate this. However women seem to assume other things like that a men don't knit or are horny freaks who rape women when women can act just as lust filled. As for feminism, I'm a bit of a feminist. I like my equal opportunity and not to be treated differently. Some men however like to treat women with more grace and care and like women to act that way, fragile, cute and innocent. Also nothing wrong with that.
Thats my two cents anyway.