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 Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:14 pm
I will not have the terms of how this guild operates dictated to us by this trollThis is not his guild. This is our guild. If he doesn't like it, tough s**t. The terms of how our guild operates as far as I am concerned is not up to debate or referendum by the Gaian public at large. Especially by those whose misbehavior is responsible for the present situation. Frankly I think it outragous that he would set fourth terms on how our guild operates or that it would be allowed to be posted at all in the ED Politics Regulars forum (from which I have resigned due to this and the fact that Shem has used what was supposed to be neutral ground to attack some of us). It is not a matter which is up for debate. Shem's "respect" I can do without. And also a word to those of you who have taken it upon themselves to "negotiate" these terms: Knock it off. As a senior member of this guild and crew member, I will not endorse any of these terms nor any negotiations regarding them. It is, as far as I am concerned and as I have stated above, not subject to negotiation.
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:27 pm
Negotiate terms? What's wrong with discussing coming to terms with one another?
Edit: I don't care, really. Do what you want. No one's trying to go behind another's back and surrender the guild over to Shem's terms or anyone else. I just don't see the problem in apologizing to Danjel or going public. You can consider them Shem's terms or whatever, but I think this is getting ridiculous.
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:30 pm
Less Than Liz Negotiate terms? What's wrong with discussing coming to terms with one another? What's wrong? To state it simply: It is none of his damn business. The operations of this guild is not up for negotiation, referendum, or terms dictated to us from the outside. I will not endorse any such efforts.
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:45 am
Kazuma Less Than Liz Negotiate terms? What's wrong with discussing coming to terms with one another? What's wrong? To state it simply: It is none of his damn business. The operations of this guild is not up for negotiation, referendum, or terms dictated to us from the outside. I will not endorse any such efforts. I'm gone all of 3 months and I'm still confused about all this. Can someone explain in Depth what Shem is up too?
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:47 am
Eh I thought I was pretty clear in the facts that I want Shem to shove it. But if it bothers the senior members I'll stop the argument.
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:05 am
Puerilis Kazuma Less Than Liz Negotiate terms? What's wrong with discussing coming to terms with one another? What's wrong? To state it simply: It is none of his damn business. The operations of this guild is not up for negotiation, referendum, or terms dictated to us from the outside. I will not endorse any such efforts. I'm gone all of 3 months and I'm still confused about all this. Can someone explain in Depth what Shem is up too? The new leader of the Liberal Gaians guild, Angsty Shem, is sticking his nose in to our matters. Back in the old guild thread Shem invited himself in to troll around. He was asked to leave and failed to do so. As a result I turned a moderator on him and he was forced to leave. To prevent the problem from reoccuring we purchased a guild in the new guild system, which we originially set to be viewable to the public. Being rather miffed that he couldn't troll in our guild, he stole the Leaning Right Guild name for a faux guild that he created as a way to try to get back at us. Even then Shem started attacking members of the guild by pulling content from the guild and posting it in the main ED Politics forum. This being unacceptable, we reluctantly set the guild to hidden status. Basically it seems that Shem seems to think that the affairs of this guild are his business, which it is not.
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:58 am
If we are a hidden guild how is he reading our posts? Just wondering?
And we probably should give Danjel and apology.
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:59 am
Having been one of those whose words he pulled somewhat out of context, and used to paint us all as raving lunatics, I have no wish to see him granted anything. He has power and he is abusing it mightily.
I do not go snopping about the Liberal Gaians Guild, or any other guild that I am not a member of. It would be a very easy thing to do so, but a highly unscrupulous act, and not one I am willing to lower myself to. I removed myself from his false guild by my own decision.
However, he appears to have no such moral compass and feels that anything he does to serve his own agenda is perfectly acceptable. This is not someone I would want to have any sort of influence over this guild, or anything else I choose to associate with. He would appear to be on a perpetual witch-hunt, and will do anything to castigate his intended target...to hell with any collateral damage he inflicts.
I can't help but think that he has a personal ax to grind against Kid since it appears to me that he has singled him out in particular, not just in this case, but in other instances as well...such as the incident where my own words were used. Also, A Soporific's thread had been rather quiet and respectful until he noticed that Kid posted...coincidence? I have a theory that he stalks Kid, looking for an opening...shall we stake out a 'sacrificial goat' and test my theory?
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:19 am
KiwiiHead And we probably should give Danjel and apology. I have absolutely no intention of apologizing to danjel or Shem for anything I have said about either of them. If anyone wants to apologize for their own comments that is their business but no one apologizies on my behalf.
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:38 am
Kazuma KiwiiHead And we probably should give Danjel and apology. I have absolutely no intention of apologizing to danjel or Shem for anything I have said about either of them. If anyone wants to apologize for their own comments that is their business but no one apologizies on my behalf. Alrighty, no one was planning on aopolizing on your behalf it was just a suggestion.
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:23 am
Kiwii, I can appreciate your neutrality on this, however I too do not wish anyone to apologize on my behalf. It would false and inaccurate, considering I hold no such feelings of remorse towards Shem. In my estimation, he is a dishonourable cur and has made himself a viable target through his actions. I will leave him alone as long as he leaves me alone...that will have to suffice.
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:12 pm
oh how the cartoon people argue sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:31 pm
Colonel Armstrong oh how the cartoon people argue sweatdrop Heh! I'm just being my usual obstinate self.... wink
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:45 pm
I tend to avoid people who claim ******** up bullshit as logic and has a hearty side of persecution complex.
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:30 pm
I think we should just ignore Shem since he seems to suffer from an illusion of self importance. Like we intelligent conservatives would ever take advice from a half crazed liberal. As for the Danjel matter since I don't know what happened I can't really say wether he deserves an apology or not.
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