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The_Brightest_Moon

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:12 am


Kudasai. Go. Laugh. do whatever. I can NOT SAY IT LIKE A NATIVE >.< And my Japanese tutor, friends, anyone who's ever even heard Japanese spoken says I have the pronounciation of a native- the ONE WORD I CAN'T SAY IS KUDASAI. I can SAY it of course I just can't say it.... right. You know how the Japanese U isn't as like rounded and hard sounding as the English U (like oo)? I can't make that sound for that. It ends up sounding like a very americanized Koodasai instead of a nice Japanese Kudasai. Help me say this right xD Sorry if this is confusing i guess the only real way to make a comparison is to record my pronounciation but I dunno how to do that. Sort of.... compare the Japanese U to the American oo. It sounds much different and softer but I just can't make that sound in Kudasai (but in like any other japanese word)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:43 am


The way I do it:
Put your teeth together when you say "Ku" and make the sound from the back of your throat.

Aargh, there's always something unpronounceable in every language. I'm taking French this year, and that's pretty much how the entire language goes.

che_hyun


The Azure Quincy

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:48 pm


I have trouble pronouncing some words too. Like "benri."
I can't do the "enri" part. It comes out at "benari"
PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:06 pm


The_Brightest_Moon
Kudasai. Go. Laugh. do whatever. I can NOT SAY IT LIKE A NATIVE >.< And my Japanese tutor, friends, anyone who's ever even heard Japanese spoken says I have the pronounciation of a native- the ONE WORD I CAN'T SAY IS KUDASAI. I can SAY it of course I just can't say it.... right. You know how the Japanese U isn't as like rounded and hard sounding as the English U (like oo)? I can't make that sound for that. It ends up sounding like a very americanized Koodasai instead of a nice Japanese Kudasai. Help me say this right xD Sorry if this is confusing i guess the only real way to make a comparison is to record my pronounciation but I dunno how to do that. Sort of.... compare the Japanese U to the American oo. It sounds much different and softer but I just can't make that sound in Kudasai (but in like any other japanese word)


I got the impression the Ku in kudasai sounds more like "come here" or "from there" than "kookoo bird" I think it's the mouthing effect --- you don't want to bowow it. (Try saying bowow out loud to see what I mean). Certain letters don't even require your lips to move, In kudasai, your lips don't even move until the "sai"

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:19 pm


che_hyun
The way I do it:
Put your teeth together when you say "Ku" and make the sound from the back of your throat.

Aargh, there's always something unpronounceable in every language. I'm taking French this year, and that's pretty much how the entire language goes.

Thanks! I'm not the one who posted the question here, but I've been having a lot of trouble with "u" in Japanese. And this helped me. DX
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:33 am


One piece of advice I'd offer is don't stress it too much. Though it does play a key part in the language so does reading the air, and that's how restaurant people people know however you say the word Hashi, they'll know you want chopsticks and NOT a bridge. When anyone learns a new language everything they process goes through the intonations and habits they picked up in their native tongue; this how many different styles of accents are born in every part of the world and why we associate certain things with certain kinds of people(like the infamous R&L confusion that signifies a stereotypical Asian accent, even though that really does happen with a lot of non native Asian English speakers). Just make sure to get your hands on proper teaching methods and people willing to call you out when you butcher something, preferably a native Japanese speaker.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:44 pm


I think it might help if you put more emphasis on the "da" and back off a little bit on the "u" in "ku".

Kind of like a Kudahsai sound. That way there's less focus on correctly pronouncing the "ku" and you'll likely pick it up as you work on the "da"
PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:04 pm


What does "kudasai" mean >w<

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Zantetsken

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:57 am


Try to think of the word "sue", as in "I'll sue you!" The "u" there should be the one you're using, and it isn't as long as in words like "cool". All you have to do is switch the "s" with a "k"... Though I guess you only said the "ku" sound is giving you trouble, so I'm guessing you're fine with things like "su", "nu", "mu", etc.

I guess you could just try to say it faster/with less emphasis?

OMG its Chuniie
What does "kudasai" mean >w<

It's added to sentences to make them polite requests. It basically means "please".
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:13 pm


Zantetsken
Try to think of the word "sue", as in "I'll sue you!" The "u" there should be the one you're using, and it isn't as long as in words like "cool". All you have to do is switch the "s" with a "k"... Though I guess you only said the "ku" sound is giving you trouble, so I'm guessing you're fine with things like "su", "nu", "mu", etc.

I guess you could just try to say it faster/with less emphasis?

OMG its Chuniie
What does "kudasai" mean >w<

It's added to sentences to make them polite requests. It basically means "please".


ohhh.... so like...

for example...

i say.. *think*

Chotto matte kudasai ...(idk spelling) does that mean please wait a minute sweatdrop

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Zantetsken

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:19 pm


OMG its Chuniie

ohhh.... so like...

for example...

i say.. *think*

Chotto matte kudasai ...(idk spelling) does that mean please wait a minute sweatdrop

Yeah, pretty much razz Another example would be "yamete kudasai", "please stop". I think you can use "kudasai" after any "te"-form verbs.

Like, the original form of "matte" is "matsu", and "yamete" is "yameru". When it's in the "te"-form, it means you're saying it as a command, as in you're telling the person to do that thing. So "matte" is telling someone to wait, and "yamete" is telling someone to stop. And then the "kudasai" at the end makes it polite ("please wait", "please stop").
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:02 pm


I have a problem with words ending in -u... I end up cutting the -u off or making it too short! :/

Like... example: DesU, I would say, dess with a slight u-ish noise! razz

And the phrase I could never pronounce was... 'Kitte kuri kaishite kudasai" (I know I have mutilated the spellings, I'm sorry I haven't seen it written, I've just heard it said) which is please listen and repeat... I could NEVER say it right!

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Zantetsken

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:52 pm


From what I hear in anime, J-rock, and anything else in Japanese that I might happen to watch, I think the -u is often made short... I think it tends to have less emphasis when it's at the end of the word. But that's just something I seem to have observed.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:57 am


I would suggest practicing saying to yourself a billion times after hearing it. No matter how silly you think it sounds it will eventually become natural to you.

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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 6:38 am


mazuac
I have a problem with words ending in -u... I end up cutting the -u off or making it too short! :/

Like... example: DesU, I would say, dess with a slight u-ish noise! razz

And the phrase I could never pronounce was... 'Kitte kuri kaishite kudasai" (I know I have mutilated the spellings, I'm sorry I haven't seen it written, I've just heard it said) which is please listen and repeat... I could NEVER say it right!

thats how your suppose to say it desu usually becomes des in a sentence for example watashi wa sushi ga suki desu. the u isn't said or is whispered.
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