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 Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:56 am
I know its been a while since the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) went online, but I want to know how many individuals are a afraid that the LHC will destroy the world with some black hole or other doomsday scenario?
I ask this because my girlfriend and her entire family kept me awake for 36 hours straight( scream ) as they screamed and ranted their ignorant views and how the world was going to torn apart by a black hole or that it was a giant bomb that would spit the world in half. (Don't ask me where they got the ideas from, I don't know.)
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:06 pm
People often tend to fear what they don't understand. The energy necessary to create a black hole would far exceed the capacity of the collider - in fact I have read that such a feat could require thousands of times the entire energy output of human civilization on earth for a year. Such energy would destroy the machine long before it would destroy the earth. Still, doomsday scenarios makes for a good read.
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:23 pm
You should ask your girlfriend and her family if they were absolutely certain Y2K would happen too. wink
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:00 am
Russell Roark You should ask your girlfriend and her family if they were absolutely certain Y2K would happen too. wink
I would but they carry their ignorance and misunderstandings in the same hand they carry their guns... sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:01 pm
Blegh.
I say avoid her family as much as possible, or find someone else.
Well, that's what I would do anyway.
Some people just can't be reasoned with. They take their irrational fears and cling to them like a desperate preacher clinging to a bible.
rolleyes
Well, it's your call anyway. Good luck solving this unfortunate situation biggrin
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:54 am
Well don't forget that you was only saved because the collider had issues and shutdown without actually doing what it was designed for (slamming streams of particles together).
I don't think it's gonna start up again till like mid-late summer 2009, due to maintenance to fix the problem with overheating in some sections.
Though it won't create a black hole, maybe it'll have enough energy to create a wormhole... could be just as bad really, just lasts for short bursts. *eg*
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:47 pm
I mean look at the logic of the situation:
The scientists didn't create this thing to make a black hole.
They aren't on a mission to blow up planet earth.
And they are experts in the field of the Collider, so I would trust their word that doomsday won't occur, especially when the people saying it WILL are the fear-mongering news casters, and the general smucks on the streets.
I mean seriously.
So many people fear the latest technology, especially when a-friend-of-a-friend says there may be a problem with it
rolleyes
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:59 am
 Cronos the Timekeeper Though it won't create a black hole, maybe it'll have enough energy to create a wormhole... could be just as bad really, just lasts for short bursts. *eg*
Well doesn't quantum foam have worm holes in it? They are just so small, you can't fit anything through it.
SirKirbance People often tend to fear what they don't understand. The energy necessary to create a black hole would far exceed the capacity of the collider - in fact I have read that such a feat could require thousands of times the entire energy output of human civilization on earth for a year. Such energy would destroy the machine long before it would destroy the earth. Still, doomsday scenarios makes for a good read.
I don't think it's THAT far fetched. Yes I agree, I doubt a black hole could be created, and most likely people made this accusation just to raise excitement. But, I just think those numbers are a little too high. But then again, that's just my opinion.
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:39 am
Hahaha.... yeah, all this hype and fear is just borne out of ignorance really. I don't believe it's anything to be afraid of. Bring it on!
Besides, if all those wild speculations end up being true, what an awesome way to die.
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:29 am
There really is not anything to be afraid of. Someof the fear comes from ignorance or fear of what the LHC will find. There was one girl in one of my classes that was told be someone that the LHC would create a black hole and after that she had an irrasionable fear that it would.
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:21 pm
I'm appalled at how out-of-proportion all this nonsense has gotten, thanks in no small part to our ignorant media.
The theory about the black holes goes that it's possible the LHC will create microscopic black holes. HOWEVER, these things are SO tiny that Hawking Radiation will cause them to evaporate on time scales of the order of the Planck time, so they won't be able to grow at all before they disappear.
What I hate the most is all this nonsense about the Higgs boson being the "God particle." For f***'s sake, it's nerdy hyperbole! It has nothing to do with your Judeo-christian god! (or anyone else's). It's just some particle physicists feeling like they really need a major discovery.
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:56 pm
I find it quite silly. It's completely hypothetical in the first place but even if it did happen it would be so small and so unstable that it wouldnt do any damage. We can barely even create any anti-matter! How could you really think we could make black holes?
I live very close to the second largest particle accelerator (except it was still the largest when I was there) the Tevatron and never worried about anything going haywire. I think there is more probability of a nuclear power plant exploding.
I <3 fermi lab...
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:59 pm
I'm not scared of the LHC destroying the world because it runs properly
I'm scared of people trying to sabatoge the machine while it's running, causing disaster
It's quite silly to think that a black hole will be formed that's big enough to destroy the earth. Besides, detecting these black holes will prove that they exist.
Say, the LHC is going to be fully operational in 2012. If you believe the world is going to end that year, then you're also probably going to believe the LHC is part of the cause
The main problem is that many people think that blackholes are giant cosmic vacuum cleaners. But they aren't. They are stars compressed so much that their gravity attracts everything before the event horizon into it.
It's hard to believe that someone acknowledges the existence of black holes, but not the fact that the LHC will not kill us
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:18 pm
assuming the idea of it creating black holes could be true, i can't help but wonder what would happen if two black holes were formed in such a close proximity to one another.
would they somehow try to absorb one another, cancel each other out, or combine into a larger black hole. i don't exactly know much about black holes, so this might be a 'dumb question' of sorts. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 1:57 pm
hmm
well as far as im aware nobody REALLY knows too much about black holes
sure there's theories and stuff but as far as i know science hasnt agreed on something conclusively
im not tryint to say anything either way, whether it will or it wont do whatever but ive said something similar to this in another thread: dispite qualifications, education, letters after ur name, whatever else, we all are only human and therefore prone to fault. the scientists *could* be wrong albeit inprobably, theres still a chance and even regarding how advanced our modern science and technology is we don't know everything (and who knows, we may never know everything).
even the experts get it wrong sometimes.
some people (not all though) nowadays seem to compare modern science to past science and forget (to whatever degree) that theres still alot more out there to learn and we may indeed be completely wrong about things. just because its "modern" doesn't make it correct. for example, in the past there were many things that were at the time "modern" that was considered fact yet has now been disregarded.
science is like...a work in progress
it could go either way.
everything we do is an experiment in one way or another and the LHC isn't any different. in theory it might work flawlessly but in practice it could be a different story. i'm sure you could think up examples where practice doesnt play out as theory says it should, after all, that's at least one of the point in experimenting: incase the theory's wrong. it might be improbable but nothings impossible smile
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