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I'm sick of the term "right to choose". It's very deceptive. It dodges around the point like a crack addict jumping around imaginary spiders.

If you're pro choice, say that you're for the right to abortion. Not the right to choose. Pro-life people are for the right to choose as well- You can have fries or onion rings with your burger, you can dye your hair any color you want, you can choose toast, eggs, bacon or all of the above for breakfast.

It is almost exactly like saying "I'm pro happiness", and in parenthasies, (My happiness by taking your money, pro-embezzlement) - It leaps around the entire focus of the idea, the right to abortion, to something apparently decent and good. It's as though they are afraid to say abortion, or afraid of abortion. If you're going to be for it, then be willing to say it. Don't hide the focus with pretty-sounding positive terms. Use the real word, use the real word.

The abortion debate is full of deceptive terminology and catch phrases. By supporting abortion, they are not only not promoting anything more than 1 choice for 1 group of people which will then take away all choices from another person. They also don't seem to give a crap about the teenagers who are forced to have abortions by their parents or abusers. Or about other women who are pressured into it.

They use the word ''choose'' to make it sound so much better than murder. But yes i agree with you Basically we are all pro-choice..they choose to kill and we choose to save.....

I actually don't use the term "pro-choice" or the term "pro-life." I present them as "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion"--because that is the essence of the debate, is it not?

Someone once used the argument, "Well, I don't really want abortion's to be necessary, you know. I don't really want them to be performed. So I'm not pro-abortion."
If you didn't want them to be performed, you wouldn't be begging us to keep them legal. You support the existence of abortion; therefore, you support abortion. Seems simple enough.

As George Orwell once said, “In our time political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible.”
The term "pro-choice" was created because pro-abortion advocates knew their argument was indefensible. Everyone loves having a choice, so they call themselves pro-choice to attract people to their side of the fence. I think the only reason the pro-choice movement has survived for as long as it has is because they claim to fight for choice when in reality they couldn't care less about women and girls who are forced to have abortions.
Now, pro-choicers probably say the same thing about our term, "pro-life". But the difference is we pro-lifers care about the life of the child and the mother. We care about the post-abortion trauma the woman will endure for the rest of her life and we care about the unborn child's life. Besides pro-choicers only support one choice: Abortion. They hate adoption and crisis pregnancy centers. It's like they may as well say, "Every woman should have a choice, but just one choice and one choice only."

Pro-abortion makes it sound like we're all rabid fans of abortion. We're not: most, I imagine, would see it as a necessary evil at times and would campaign for help for mothers so that there were less abortions in the world even if it's impossible to have none. Call yourselves anti-abortion all you like, but calling the other side pro-abortion doesn't ring true.

Sure it does.

First of all, you know you are not supposed to post in the main forum. If you want to post in our guild at all, stick to the Pro-Choice/Pro-Life subforum.

Secondly, Pro-abortion only sounds like that to you because of your guilty conscience. When someone is Pro-Gay Rights, does that mean they're going to go out and get a gay marriage? No. Does it mean they enjoy watching gay couples making out, or watching gay porn? No. It just means they support gays having legal rights.

Same thing with people who are Pro-Death Sentence. Do they get off watching people be executed? No. They just believe that the death sentence is a viable method of dealing with criminals, and should be legal.

Pro-Abortion is exactly the same thing. Pro-Abortion means you want abortion to be legal. End of story. Anti-Abortion means you want abortion to be illegal. End of story.

I'm personally going to stick with Pro-Choice and Pro-Life, because those are everyone's preferred names, and I don't have a problem with that. But I'm a little sick of Pro-Choicers acting like Pro-Abortion means something that it doesn't. Especially since Pro-Choice isn't the right name at all. It's complete propaganda. Pro-Choice? The only choice you are supporting that we are not is the choice to legally have an abortion, but the name makes it sound like Pro-Choicers are paragons of freedom. You're not. It is one single choice, that even your side frequently claims is only a necessary evil.

I wouldn't mind being called Anti-Abortion as long as your side was called Pro-Abortion. If we are called Anti-Abortion while you are Pro-Choice, though, there is an unbalance. Pro-Life is propaganda too, although I personally think it is a less heinous one than Pro-Choice. But when you get to use your propaganda and we don't, you come off as the paragons of freedom, while we're the evil people trying to take away your abortions. It's something that really pisses me off about the Associated Press, that they actually call Pro-Choicers Pro-Choicers, but Pro-Lifers are Anti-Abortion activists. It's so much bullshit.

Anyways. If you want to continue this conversation, start posting in the subforum, or you will be banned.

I'm anti-abortion (I also wouldn't mind being referred to as that on this issue but I'm also basically pro-life all around so that works for me too), I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you in regard to the rest. Pro-abortion implies that you are in favor of abortion. Pro-choice in reference to the abortion issue simply implies that you are in favor of letting their be a choice (currently on the part of the mother) whether or not she wants to carry to term or have an abortion.

*Pro used as both a prefix and a preposition in this case is defined as: being in favor of or championing.

It is possible for someone to be morally against the idea of abortions and yet still be in favor of letting the mothers making that choice and they've given a variety of different reasons for it.

So, I guess I'm opening up the story again. Pro-abortion implies that you are in favor of abortions, 'pro-abortions being legal in some or all cases' would be the lengthy version of what the term 'pro-choice' is being used for. I do agree that both 'pro-life' and 'pro-choice' are misleading and meant to make the other side look bad.