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Lord of the Rings? It's like Narnia?

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Frygate

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:10 am


I think many ppl know this already, but I like to get it out there bc LOTR was one of the most selling movies
The Ring= Sin
Gollum= What Sin Turns Us Into
Galdalf dies and comes back to life= Ressurestion
Gandalf casting saruman out of the King of Rohan= Kingy got saved
Elves= Just to be stinkin' awesome
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:45 am


Frodo carrying the ring = Jesus carrying the burden of sin
the wars = war btwn good & evil

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Frygate

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:02 pm


those 2, as well
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:38 pm


Well, the authors of both books were college friends. 3nodding

Medanite


Frygate

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:58 am


Really? that's cool
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:07 am


So where is the discussion about Narnia? rolleyes

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:52 pm


When I read the title, I thought it was going to be a Lord of the Rings bashing party. I was about to get a little worried there. sweatdrop

I had never thought about that stuff before.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:26 am


stickyfeet
When I read the title, I thought it was going to be a Lord of the Rings bashing party. I was about to get a little worried there. sweatdrop

I had never thought about that stuff before.

Actually the topic is very old.....
I actually think that Tolkien brought C. S. Lewis to Christ

Frygate


Sybil Unrest

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:21 pm


You're correct, Frygate. Tolkien did have a great deal to do with C S Lewis' conversion. Tolkien was a devout Catholic all his life.

However I feel I must point out that Tolkien did state that he never intended his book to be a Christian allegory, unlike Lewis.

The war between Mordor and the rest of Middle Earth could as easily be an allegory of the Second World War.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:18 pm


Sybil Unrest
You're correct, Frygate. Tolkien did have a great deal to do with C S Lewis' conversion. Tolkien was a devout Catholic all his life.

However I feel I must point out that Tolkien did state that he never intended his book to be a Christian allegory, unlike Lewis.

The war between Mordor and the rest of Middle Earth could as easily be an allegory of the Second World War.

I really do think that he did, in fact, intend it to be an allegory
It's too many points to overlook

Frygate


Medanite

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:57 pm


Sybil Unrest
You're correct, Frygate. Tolkien did have a great deal to do with C S Lewis' conversion. Tolkien was a devout Catholic all his life.

However I feel I must point out that Tolkien did state that he never intended his book to be a Christian allegory, unlike Lewis.

The war between Mordor and the rest of Middle Earth could as easily be an allegory of the Second World War.


Actually, I believe Lewis said a similar thing about his books when asked if they were allegory. He didn't intend for them to be Christian books, but they came to be that way because that's the way it came out in the books when he was writing them.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:45 am


Thats good because I never understood what the whole christian thing was in that movie. Now I know. So what your really telling me is that to absolve my sins I need to throw them into a volcano? Awesome.

And like dude mention they worked with each other and I'm sure they bounced a lot of ideas off each other.

Blah blah blah I was never here.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:31 pm


hey...remember the battle in the 3rd LOTR movie? Gandalf and his army came down that hill like angels sweeping down from heaven and completely destroying the demons.
that was pretty cool.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:22 pm


Frygate
Sybil Unrest
You're correct, Frygate. Tolkien did have a great deal to do with C S Lewis' conversion. Tolkien was a devout Catholic all his life.

However I feel I must point out that Tolkien did state that he never intended his book to be a Christian allegory, unlike Lewis.

The war between Mordor and the rest of Middle Earth could as easily be an allegory of the Second World War.

I really do think that he did, in fact, intend it to be an allegory
It's too many points to overlook


Nope.

I took a course on Lewis and Tolkien (and we read the Chronicles of Narnia AND the LOTR as well as three other books... all in 16 weeks!) and I am a Lewisian, a Tolkienian, a Mediaevalist, and an Anglophile.

Tolkien never meant for the LOTR to be seen as allegorical. He stated that one COULD look at it as such, but it was not intended that way so we have no real knowledge of what (or who) represents anything in the stories.

Lewis, on the other hand, DID mean for Narnia to be seen as allegory.

He and Tolkien disagreed on a few facts that had to do with writing. Lewis thought that a story should have allegory behind it (see Till We Have Faces, and Pilgrim's Regress) where as, Tolkien hated allegory and said it took away from the story.

Lewis grew up in an Anglican home, but he denied faith because of 'logic' and some of his schooling. Later in life, with the help of Tolkien and Lewis' brother and other friends, became a Theist. Mainly, he believed that there was A god. Then, he became a Christian, namely an Anglican.

Lewis and Tolkien did not go to school together, but they did end up meeting via friends and then Lewis joined Tolkien on staff at Oxford University (even though in different colleges, Tolkien in Exeter College and Lewis in Magdalen College).

They were also part of the Inklings consisting of Owen Barfield, Charles Williams, Christopher Tolkien (J. R. R. Tolkien's son), Warren "Warnie" Lewis (C. S. Lewis's elder brother), Roger Lancelyn Green, Adam Fox, Hugo Dyson, Robert Havard, J. A. W. Bennett, Lord David Cecil, and Nevill Coghill, Percy Bates, Charles Leslie Wrenn, Colin Hardie, James Dundas-Grant, John Wain, R. B. McCallum, Gervase Mathew, C. E. Stevens, E. R. Eddison (some visiting more often than others). this was a literary guild and they were not all Christian.

Just because there are too many points to overlook in a book to make it an allegory does not mean it was MEANT to be an allegory by the author. Everything can be allegorical to someone or another.

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