Pro-Life flowers on the steps of the Supreme Court.

[peacecorps333]

If you are Pro-Life, you may wish to leave flowers on the steps of the Supreme Court.
(or send flowers)

Roe v. Wade pushes frivolous and unneeded abortions on all 50 states.

The flowers on the steps would be like it's the grave site of the unborn.

Thank You for your time.  

[lordstar]

peacecorps333

If you are Pro-Life, you may wish to leave flowers on the steps of the Supreme Court.
(or send flowers)

Roe v. Wade pushes frivolous and unneeded abortions on all 50 states.

The flowers on the steps would be like it's the grave site of the unborn.

Thank You for your time.

Roe v. Wade does not push anything
it allows people to choose
nothing more
nothing less  

[divineseraph]

lordstar

peacecorps333

If you are Pro-Life, you may wish to leave flowers on the steps of the Supreme Court.
(or send flowers)

Roe v. Wade pushes frivolous and unneeded abortions on all 50 states.

The flowers on the steps would be like it's the grave site of the unborn.

Thank You for your time.

Roe v. Wade does not push anything
it allows people to choose
nothing more
nothing less

Much like how slavery laws allowed people to own certain property. No more, no less.  

[lordstar]

divineseraph

lordstar

peacecorps333

If you are Pro-Life, you may wish to leave flowers on the steps of the Supreme Court.
(or send flowers)

Roe v. Wade pushes frivolous and unneeded abortions on all 50 states.

The flowers on the steps would be like it's the grave site of the unborn.

Thank You for your time.

Roe v. Wade does not push anything
it allows people to choose
nothing more
nothing less

Much like how slavery laws allowed people to own certain property. No more, no less.

you have a point
but just the same
at the time it was up to those with power to make their choice
nothing has changed
from slave labor to child labor and on down the line
and still today
we have choices to make
Roe v. Wade doesn't force abortions on anyone
it allows women to make a choice

if pro-lifers (very important to note how general this comment is directed) really want change they will need to win the hearts and minds of the people with kindness and understanding not with threats and alienation

I suggest a change of tactics
because even a victory in court or with public policy will not solve such a dispute

to kill the plant you attack the root
but no one wants to ask the hard questions
why? why do people do what they do?  

[mazuac]

Personally, I think Abortion is personal, and I don't think the government should be involved in a matter like this...

 

[divineseraph]

mazuac

Personally, I think Abortion is personal, and I don't think the government should be involved in a matter like this...

I think slave owning is personal, and the government shouldn't be involved in a matter like this...

See what I did thar?  

[divineseraph]

lordstar

divineseraph

lordstar

peacecorps333

If you are Pro-Life, you may wish to leave flowers on the steps of the Supreme Court.
(or send flowers)

Roe v. Wade pushes frivolous and unneeded abortions on all 50 states.

The flowers on the steps would be like it's the grave site of the unborn.

Thank You for your time.

Roe v. Wade does not push anything
it allows people to choose
nothing more
nothing less

Much like how slavery laws allowed people to own certain property. No more, no less.

you have a point
but just the same
at the time it was up to those with power to make their choice
nothing has changed
from slave labor to child labor and on down the line
and still today
we have choices to make
Roe v. Wade doesn't force abortions on anyone
it allows women to make a choice

if pro-lifers (very important to note how general this comment is directed) really want change they will need to win the hearts and minds of the people with kindness and understanding not with threats and alienation

I suggest a change of tactics
because even a victory in court or with public policy will not solve such a dispute

to kill the plant you attack the root
but no one wants to ask the hard questions
why? why do people do what they do?

Yes, we need to end not only abortion, but the reasons abortion is seen as necessary. We need to get better healthcare, we need to have better systems for pregnant women in the workforce, better access to birth control in the first place.  

[IcarusDream]

divineseraph

mazuac

Personally, I think Abortion is personal, and I don't think the government should be involved in a matter like this...

I think slave owning is personal, and the government shouldn't be involved in a matter like this...

That's actually a very scripture based position; I applaud.  

[Lady Kayura]

divineseraph

I think slave owning is personal, and the government shouldn't be involved in a matter like this...

See what I did thar?

Yep. You are comparing two things that are not alike at all. So what's your point?  

[divineseraph]

Lady Kayura

divineseraph

I think slave owning is personal, and the government shouldn't be involved in a matter like this...

See what I did thar?

Yep. You are comparing two things that are not alike at all. So what's your point?

They are alike- Government controlling personal property versus government controlling personal property.

Assuming, of course, that we consider slaves and feti to be personal property.

Slaves WERE considered personal property. Feti ARE considered personal property.

Using an argument that says that the government should have no say in a personal choice depends on what is being chosen. What about slavery? Murder? Theft? Heroine? Drunk driving? These are all personal choices.

My point is, saying that the government should have no say is fallacious because that is the government's job- To make laws against wrongs. Owning and using property is not wrong- Unless we consider feti and slaves or other human beings as property.

It's not that lifers want the government to control women or control choices. We want to restrict this one choice which harms others, much like with the abolition of slavery.  

[Tarrou]

IcarusDream

divineseraph

I think slave owning is personal, and the government shouldn't be involved in a matter like this...

That's actually a very scripture based position; I applaud.

I'm really hoping you meant that ironically; it's hard to tell when you've the Southern Cross in your signature.

Anyhow, just popping in to let y'all know not to be surprised if this thread disappears into the debate forum some time in the future.  

[lordstar]

Lady Kayura

divineseraph

I think slave owning is personal, and the government shouldn't be involved in a matter like this...

See what I did thar?

Yep. You are comparing two things that are not alike at all. So what's your point?

take another look
do you see the irony of American history
could be a similar reference idk  

[IcarusDream]

Tarrou

IcarusDream

divineseraph

I think slave owning is personal, and the government shouldn't be involved in a matter like this...

That's actually a very scripture based position; I applaud.

I'm really hoping you meant that ironically; it's hard to tell when you've the Southern Cross in your signature.

It's a sarcastic attack, but I still consider it true.  

[Tarrou]

IcarusDream

It's a sarcastic attack, but I still consider it true.

So if you think that the government shouldn't have a say in whether you do or do not own slaves, then am I correct in inferring that you believe that slavery is moral, or at least not evil?  

[Orizion]

I hate to be a pessimist, but even if the government made a law against abortion, people may still do it. People break the law everyday. Also, many people will be enraged towards the government for making such a law. Personally, I don't know why, but I know it's impossible to please everyone.

Another thought to consider: we are human beings, right? Not former-humans, nor waiting-to-be-human, etc. In other words, I think that feti are humans. Abortion not only kills a life, it is also painful for the mother (or so I've heard).