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choirperson

PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:43 am


Apparently, it was hacked, which I'm sure people have noticed. I saw the hack notice, and I was like 'wth??? Why would someone do that???' And then I logged onto LJ. Apparently, the new manifesto (which makes sense to me, but what do I know?) is unpopular. Very unpopular. So, instead forming a new group or just sticking to staying away from the lexicon, some geniuses decided to hack it. And now, it's gone for a while. There go my daily updates... What do you guys think?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:15 pm


WHAT?! gonk

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Anyway, the group who hacked Lexicon are overreacting in my opinion. Of course, I haven't seen the new manifesto... What was it about? confused

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:43 am


I hate this! I went on there every day (sometimes more than once) WTH!?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:13 am


I actually got an email from the Lexicon, well, the Lexicon's address, but it was the hackers who sent it. It was apparently sent from 'SRSLY U GUIS. U GUIS SRSLY'. It was titled 'HAI HAI U U', and all it said in it was: your website was hacked. biggrin

Those hackers really are pathetic.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:04 pm


That's pathetic. Like the new developments or not, hacking for revenge is grade A retarded. Those Lexicon girls worked HARD.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:04 pm


That SUCKS!!!

Where will i feed my Twilight obsession now???

What's a manifesto BTW?


Wait wait.... it's working!!!!

Woot woot!!!

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ChibiShannon

PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:15 pm


I was sad to hear about it. They have my sympathy.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:00 am


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WHAT?! gonk

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Anyway, the group who hacked Lexicon are overreacting in my opinion. Of course, I haven't seen the new manifesto... What was it about? confused

The new manifesto was this:
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The new Breaking Dawn Manifesto:

Last fall we wrote a site manifesto stating where we envisioned the discussion on this site going, and defining what kind of group we were, and where we see this site heading. Now that we have had a week to digest Breaking Dawn, here’s where we stand.


Is Breaking Dawn the most perfect book ever written, or are any of the Twilight Saga Books the most perfect books of all time? It’s a matter of subjective opinion. Nonetheless, here’s where we stand:


1. The Twilight Saga is comprised of four books. It is not a trilogy. You may have wished that the books stopped at three, but they didn’t, and this site is a fan site for all the books in the Twilight Saga. We firmly stand by the canon as established in all four books. It all really happened. If you want to pretend Breaking Dawn never happened, that’s fine, but on this website there are no banners, avatars, sigs to that effect, and discussion acknowledges and concedes that all events contained in the four volume series exists. Denial of canon has no place on this website.

2. Bella is not a Mary-Sue, nor are any of the other characters in the series. If you think that you are on the wrong website. There is no character bashing on this site. Stating “Alice’s visions and perkiness really annoy me.” Isn’t character bashing. Stating, “pleez let’s get over failcob, the demon spawn, and the speminator.” is character bashing.

3. Stephenie Meyer’s writing nor the writing of any other professionally published author mentioned in passing on this site is to be compared to bad fanfiction, ever.

4. Vampire males are fertile, and female vampires are not. Stephenie evaded the question in PC number one. Pel personally refers to the word “most” as in “most bodily fluids are replaced by venom”, as “the most important 4-letter word in an interview", and alternatively “the adjective that rocked the fandom”. To this website’s satisfaction it explains how Bella is able to conceive. It is not debatable that it happens and was explained. We are open to discussion on the particulars, but debating that it can’t happen, or stating that the author lied is not tolerated here.

5. Stephenie Meyer is a member of the LDS, aka the Mormon church. One of the many values that the church exposes is the value of family. There is nothing wrong with valuing children. Stephenie is not trying to ram LDS values down anyone’s throat. If she were, her characters wouldn’t swear, wear tank tops, or self medicate with cough syrup. Like every author, parts of her life influence her writing, and a part of her life is her religion. C.S. Lewis and Tolkein’s Catholic values are evident in their work. Phillip Pullman’s atheism is evident in his. By no means are they trying to indoctrinate you any more than Stephenie is. Simply when religion or the lack thereof is a significant part of someone’s life it will affect their work, and that is not per say a bad thing. It gives you something to look at and think about. Accept it or reject it as is your choice.

6. Jacob Black continues to be a great character. He is not a *****. Stephenie did not always intend for a Bella/Jacob ending only to change her mind at the end. Jacob’s story was planned to play out the way it did.

7. If every time you post it is going to start with feelings along the lines of “it would have been better if…”. “I’m so disappointed that…”, “this was such a letdown because…” it takes the fun out of the boards. Sure there are debatable issues, but no one likes someone who is constantly the party pooper, or who is constantly the devil’s advocate.

8. You as a thinking human being can decide what you want to take away from any novel. We have a certain vision as a particular fansite, owned by particular people, why we like all of these books. We may not like every single part, but overall we like them. We are by no means stating every website should do what we have chosen to do. We would never dream of telling another website how to run their message boards. There are plenty of places where almost anything goes there are other more strict websites, and plenty in between. This is simply a matter of what works for us. As a privately owned website with no membership fee, we continue to reserve the right to moderate our boards in accordance with this philosophy.

9. Lastly, If the above items, that will shortly be enfolded into our regular site manifesto cause you to say, “Hey this site isn’t for me anymore.” Best wishes, and we do sincerely mean that. We say the above knowing full well we will lose people. At the same time there are others who will be staying around because of this policy. And of course there will be those who don’t care one way or the other.


Anyway, the above is in effect as of Monday. By then the majority of the hardcore English language fan will have most likely gotten the book and finished it, had a chance to emote with others, and can then decide all things considered “where do I stand?”

If you have any questions or concerns you can contact the following Admin/Moderators


Yes. It is very long.

Personally, I was pissed.
I decided to not go back anymore and just let them be.
C'mon, I can't say that I had issues with the book? Some topics are forbidden to debate? I respect them for putting together the site, but honestly, I think taking away a person's right to debate anything is taking the fun out of having a forum.

While I wasn't agreeing with the new manifesto, I don't agree with the hackers. s**t man, they put hard work into that. D<

And on a side note, I'm pretty sure CS Lewis wasn't Catholic so that was a stupid argument.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:25 am


    I think the hackers were incredibly immature.
    Sure, if you don't like their rules, then leave the site alone.
    You have a right to disagree with what they posted up, but to destroy something that people have worked hard on is just...ugh!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:23 pm


As being one who knows those who created the Twilight Lexicon...this really fustrates me.
I do not completely agree with how the Twilight Lexicon changed their rules because..they were always open for debate before. At the same time, with all the hate groups that have spawned up recently, I can see why they did it. They personally correspond with Stephenie. No one wants to listen to people bash the book they dedicate so much for.

Simple as that.
So this hacking? Yeah. That's horrible. I have grown to dislike people more and more.

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felinestare1

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:56 pm


I've always found that bashing and the like is a particularly low thing to do when done over the internet because the victim of your bashing/hacking/whatever can't really do much about it. These hackers disgust me to no end...
PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:46 pm


Wow.

That manifesto is...harsh.
It basically outlaws any feelings of debate regarding the books! It strips people of negative opinions.
If people feel the Breaking Dawn was comparable to bad fan fiction - as I felt for a time - they should have the right to say so!
That being said, I haven't been on the lexicon on quite some time. These may have been issues that did need to be seriously addressed.
As long as it is done respectfully, you are all welcome to express your opinions of these books here, as is appropriate, obviously. I emphasize the necessity of respect in all your posts, but all opinions are welcome.

The people who hacked the site are obviously immensely immature and should be ashamed of their behavior, that is no way to handle anything.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:45 pm


Syrette


And on a side note, I'm pretty sure CS Lewis wasn't Catholic so that was a stupid argument.


He wasn't. He was christian. Just had to say that...
And yes, Catholisism is a denomination of Christianity, but not the same. Just slightly different, but different nonetheless
PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:51 pm


I agree with that manifesto. I stopped coming to this guild for a few weeks because I was so disappointed in people's reviews. People who were supposed to be fans of Stephenie Meyer's works were bashing Breaking Dawn in a way that make me think that they didn't even like the series. It says that you can have debates on things you just can't be negative. Instead of saying something such as "It would have been way better if..." You could say "Hey does anyone wonder what it would have been like if this happened?..." Just changing the way you say it makes a huge difference but you can still have the same opinion.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:59 pm


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