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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:47 pm
He has Redeemed Me!Though I Alright, so from what I've heard, the Levites play a fairly important role in Judaism? Don't they do something very important with the Temple? I've been meaning to ask these questions for awhile now, but it has always fled from my mind~ I've remembered it though! So yup! ^^ am undeserving, He gave his life for mine.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:04 pm
The Levites played an role in the Temple, but it wasn't the most prestigious one. The job of the Levites (or Levi'im) was to keep watch over the Temple, sing praises to G-d, and to generally aid the priests in their work.
The priests (Cohanim), on the other hand, did the "real" work. They slaughtered the animals for sacrifices, had the job of cleaning the altar, burned incense, lit the Candelabrum, and blessing the people. They were also in the tribe of Levi.
Both of these groups still have descendants today, and there are many added obligations these descendants have. For example, on certain days' prayer services, the priest/Cohen still goes up and blesses the congregation, and the Levi does the ritual of washing his hands. The Cohen also cannot be near dead bodies, or marry a divorced woman.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:13 pm
He has Redeemed Me!Though I But what makes the Levites so important to the Temple? They were not one of the twelve tribes, nor where they mentioned a lot in the Old Testament (Torah/Tanakh?) Unless Leviticus has something to do with that, I have not read Leviticus yet, so... yup~ ^^ am undeserving, He gave his life for mine.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:18 pm
As a Levite I have found my purpose in verse and music. Not my own music mind you, I couldn't write a chord to save my life and wouldn't know a rhythm if it came up and bit me in the face.
But, through my life's journey, I have found that music and lyrics have a way to express one's emotions and it doesn't have to be your song to express them. So usually on this forum when someone has a question or is seeking a deeper explanation or just a bit of enlightenment, I post song lyrics that are usually hacked up a bit and adapted to the situation at hand. Usually I feel that's better than me pontificating about the current situation.
I actually wrote a little prose about that. I think it's crap but still it's all I have.
Music is a drug, music is a weapon, in can fuel the fire or silence pain. It can make a coward brave and can bring light to the darkness. But like all drugs, people can build tolerances to them, what works for some does not work for all, and the song that made you realize your purpose of existence may do nothing for you after a while. So keep listening and always wake up with a song to get you through the day, because one day you won't wake up.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:20 pm
LordNeuf As a Levite I have found my purpose in verse and music. Not my own music mind you, I couldn't write a chord to save my life and wouldn't know a rhythm if it came up and bit me in the face. But, through my life's journey, I have found that music and lyrics have a way to express one's emotions and it doesn't have to be your song to express them. So usually on this forum when someone has a question or is seeking a deeper explanation or just a bit of enlightenment, I post song lyrics that are usually hacked up a bit and adapted to the situation at hand. Usually I feel that's better than me pontificating about the current situation. I actually wrote a little prose about that. I think it's crap but still it's all I have. Music is a drug, music is a weapon, in can fuel the fire or silence pain. It can make a coward brave and can bring light to the darkness. But like all drugs, people can build tolerances to them, what works for some does not work for all, and the song that made you realize your purpose of existence may do nothing for you after a while. So keep listening and always wake up with a song to get you through the day, because one day you won't wake up. He has Redeemed Me!Though I Whoa! Your a Levite! Awesome! am undeserving, He gave his life for mine.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:21 pm
mazuac He has Redeemed Me!Though I But what makes the Levites so important to the Temple? They were not one of the twelve tribes, nor where they mentioned a lot in the Old Testament (Torah/Tanakh?) Unless Leviticus has something to do with that, I have not read Leviticus yet, so... yup~ ^^ am undeserving, He gave his life for mine. They were mentioned in the Torah a whole lot. Levi was Jacob's 3rd son, and he was one of the tribes.
As for why the tribe is so important, it is never outright explained, though there are many explanations. The general theme of most of them is that they were exceptionally pious, especially during the slavery in Egypt (where it is said they didn't work, just studied) and during the sin of the Golden Calf, which they did not participate in at all. Additionally, all Cohanim are the descendants of Aaron, and Moses was a Levite.
(I'm a little more knowledgeable about Cohanim; I am one.)
Edit: :O Neuf is a Levi? I had no idea!
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:27 pm
mazuac But what makes the Levites so important to the Temple? What makes a choir important to a church? They are the song singers, the ones who write hymns and prayers to be passed on through the generations. Now it's not required by any means that there be a song or a musical number to have a proper ritual, but it helps. This is why they were important, they were the guardians of the temple and helped those enjoy being in the presence of HASHEM, reinforcing their beliefs and giving the people a song for that day.
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:30 am
mazuac Alright, so from what I've heard, the Levites play a fairly important role in Judaism? Don't they do something very important with the Temple? Very important. Leivi (pronounced LAY-vee, not LEE-vye, thanks) was one of the 12 Tribes of Israel. He was the third of the twelve brothers born to Ya'akov (Jacob), born of his first wife Lei'ah (Leah). The L'viim (luh-VEE-eem), Levites, are Leivi's descendants. They were chosen for sacred duty because, while they did participate in the sin of the Golden Calf during the departure from Egypt, they were the first tribe to repent: to feel and express shame and sorrow at their wrondoing, and to accept the consequences of their actions, whatever Hashem decreed those consequences to be. True contrition was what set the Levites apart from the rest of us, and so Hashem made their punishment and reward the same: they would, for all generations, be responsible for helping all of Yisrael reconcile and return themselves to their duties as children of Israel and members of the covenant made at Sinai. They would guide others to feel and express true remorse over their own wrongdoings, and help them turn their ways back to the ways Hashem has ordained. L'viim are the Temple workers, when we have a standing Holy Temple. The duties associated with all the Temple's functions fall to them. They collect tithe money and distribute it to the outcast, the widow, the orphan, and the poor. They maintain the Temple building in small and large ways -- cleaning, repairing, maintaining the fixtures and objects. L'viim also make up the Temple choir, singing prayers and songs to help focus the worshippers' minds upon the holiness of Hashem. Levites known as Kohanim (singular = Kohein), descendants of the Levite known as Aharon (Aaron, the brother of Moshe/Moses), perform the rituals and sacrifices associated with Temple worship, and they bless the people. In these times, when we have no standing Temple, Levites' chief duty is of giving the second blessing over the Torah reading in synagogues; a Leivi who is also a Kohein gives the first blessing.
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:35 pm
I'm a Binyamini? Thanks Divash!
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:09 am
Divash mazuac Alright, so from what I've heard, the Levites play a fairly important role in Judaism? Don't they do something very important with the Temple? Very important. Leivi (pronounced LAY-vee, not LEE-vye, thanks) was one of the 12 Tribes of Israel. He has Redeemed Me!Though I Oh? Cool~ But I am looking at a map of the Twelve Tribes and... well, I don't see the Levites on it. I only see Asher, Naphtali, Zebulun, Issachar, Manasseh, Gad, Reuben, Ephraim, Dan, Benjamen, Judah and Simeon. There is an East Maneasseh, however that has to do with the main part of Manasseh. Or are one of those the tribe of the Levites? am undeserving, He gave his life for mine.
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:34 am
mazuac Oh? Cool~ But I am looking at a map of the Twelve Tribes and... well, I don't see the Levites on it.  I assume you're looking at this map? This is the map at around the time of the Roman Occupation. At this point the Levites were separated and distinguished to be servants to the holy temple.
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:06 am
Out of random curiosity, why were the borders so different?
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:25 pm
Different lands, different climates, different growing conditions. People marry from one tribe to another for political reasons and land is usually traded and gifted as a wedding present to maintain the peace between the tribes.
In short... Politics.
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:56 am
mazuac I am looking at a map of the Twelve Tribes and... well, I don't see the Levites on it. I only see Asher, Naphtali, Zebulun, Issachar, Manasseh, Gad, Reuben, Ephraim, Dan, Benjamen, Judah and Simeon. There is an East Maneasseh, however that has to do with the main part of Manasseh. Or are one of those the tribe of the Levites? Menashe and Efrayim (Manassah and Ephraim) were the two sons of Yoseif (Joseph), who were given a double-portion, so that effectively there are 13 tribes rather than 12 tribes of Israel. L'viim were and are a separate tribe, however they were not given a land-inheritance. Rather, they were scattered among all the tribes so that they could educate them in their religious duties as Yisrael, and some/many were concentrated at the Holy Temple itself in order to do Temple service. As I understand/recall (though I could be wrong; someone correct me with appropriate citation, if so), there was a rotation by which each Levite spent some time at the Temple and some time living with his family out in the rest of the Land of Israel. That way everyone got a chance to do both duties.
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