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 Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:50 am
In the CoS movie, there is a scene where Harry is being bombarded my Lockhart in Flourish and Blotts. During that scene, the camera moves up to show a view of Malfoy. The error only shows for about one second, but as the camera shirts up to see Malfoy, you can clearly see his white tape mark to tell him where to stand on the floor. Check it out and comment if you have any others!!!
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:06 am
I hadn't noticed that! Now I need to rewatch that film to see it for myself. There was another bigger flaw in the second film as well, a plothole. In the beginning you see Harry performing the Lumos spell outside of school without anyone at the Ministry reacting. You would think that would go under "under-age magic".
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:14 am
Yuudai Sasaki I hadn't noticed that! Now I need to rewatch that film to see it for myself. There was another bigger flaw in the second film as well, a plothole. In the beginning you see Harry performing the Lumos spell outside of school without anyone at the Ministry reacting. You would think that would go under "under-age magic". That's been bugging me forever! Everytime I watch the earlier movies when they use magic outside of Hogwarts I always wonder why the ministry isn't flipping out.
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:19 am
The lumos thing didn't happen in the second movie, but in Prisoner of Azkaban.
Annoys me to death though... Sometimes you can see them using underage magic outside of Hogwarts with no consequence what so ever... Other times, such as when Harry used the patronus in the fifth film, the ministry reacts immediately.
In the second film, Harry got a letter from the ministry for using underage magic, but it was infact Dobby who used magic in the house.
Which is actually kind of a plothole in both the film AND the movie...
The underage magic was detected by the wards on the wand, which alerted the ministry when someone under the age of seventeen used magic. So why was the ministry alerted when Dobby used magic at the Dursley's residence?
Anyway, going back to the underage magic used in the third film... Why doesn't the ministry react to Harry using lumos, which he does with his wand which allows them to detect the useage of underage magic, but when he causes Aunt Marge start swelling till she floats in the air with an accident (Without the use of the wand), they detect the magic?
Even in the books, I find it a bit strange.. Since we learn in the Seventh book that they detect it with underage magic. :S
Unless I remember wrong? O:
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:58 am
No, you're right, it is most certainly the wands... which does make those things rather odd. I never pay much attention to them, because I am a bit of a writer myself, and I know that, occasionally, when writing, things that seem important at one time can be deemed frivolous another, and all too often, the writer finds it easy to believe that no one will ever be paying close enough attention to notice. As for the tape thing, maybe there was something bigger that they had to cover up in that scene, so the tape went unnoticed.
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:25 pm
Great thread!
It was explained, and grr, I don't recall which book, that the Ministry can detect magic, but not WHO performed the magic, and leaves it up to Wizarding parents to discipline any rule breaking. The Ministry takes a closer watch on magical kids living with Muggles.
Harry was persecuted in Book and movie 2 when Dobby performed magic because the MInistry had him registered at that address with a note that no one at that address was magical except Harry. Thus they sent the warning letter when Dobby performed the magic.
Yes, the movie of Book 3 had the glaring error of Magic being performed. In the book Harry used a 'torch'- flashlight, and not a wand to study.And yes, the wand under the bedcovers, besides being the focal point for countless jokes was definitely out of canon.
But when he blew up Aunt Marge, Harry fully expected to be punished, and was a bit dumbfounded when Fudge/the Ministry didn't charge him. They were preoccupied at the time with Sirius Black being at large, and waived the charges.
The error that bugged me in movie 2 was after the basilisk battle (and don't get me started there- the blinded snake not using it's tongue to smell?) but in Dumbledore's office, when Daniel grasps the sword by -gasp- the blade!
Without a wince or blink, I might add. Grr....!
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:35 am
Kitsune no Zetsumei The lumos thing didn't happen in the second movie, but in Prisoner of Azkaban.
Ah, sorry! I had forgotten because it's been ages since I saw the first couple of films. I also didn't like Cho's role in the fifth film as the person who, for lack of better words, 'betrayed' the Order. As if she wasn't enough disliked by the readers already. confused That's not exactly an error, but I can't say I like it when films alter the personalities and actions of the books' original characters.
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:54 am
I don't like how much they downplayed Sirius in the fourth and fifth movies. Especially in the fourth. I mean, the only things that he did was write Harry the letters and appear in the fire, but in the book they went to see him in the village and all that.
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:04 pm
Wow, I got a ton of responses!!! blaugh
I never noticed how there was underage magic going on and Ministy never noticed....now I have to go bakc and watch the movie too. rofl
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:55 pm
well, they didn't detect any magic when Hermione was practicing spells over the summer before their first year, and that was waay underage magic!
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:53 am
Speaking of Sirius, wasn't he killed by the Avada Kedavra spell in the film? I remember thinking that was odd since he was killed by a red spell in the book.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:11 pm
Yuudai Sasaki Speaking of Sirius, wasn't he killed by the Avada Kedavra spell in the film? I remember thinking that was odd since he was killed by a red spell in the book. Yeah, in the book Bellatrix stunned him and he fell backwards into the curtain thing (I STILL don't understand that thing, but I guess it's in the Department of Mysteries for a reason, eh?) and that's what killed him, not a killing curse. Silly script writers jacking up my favorite book in the series.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:36 pm
Yeah, and I kept having that argument with Kyra, because I was complaining that he fell through the veil, and she said he could have been dead anyway because Bellatrix had used the killing curse, and we argued for days over it. Finally I brought my book to school and showed her the passage. She got kinda mad at me for being right.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:29 pm
About the underage magic thing. My theory is that it depends on the spell. There's a pattern here. The bigger the spell is the more likely the Ministry would react. I mean, they have other law-breakers to look out for. Such as looking for an older child using the Cruciatus curse, being more important than a twelve year old doing the lumos spell. Since the book is mostly in Harry's point of view, there are a lot of things we don't see.
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:09 am
Scotties MiaKitty well, they didn't detect any magic when Hermione was practicing spells over the summer before their first year, and that was waay underage magic! Yes but she hadnt started her first year and both her parents are muggles, so I do believe she wouldn't know the rule...I mean, Hermione knows everything, but the ministry doesn't know that, so I'm sure they wouldn't do anything about that. And the death of Sirius, grrr I hated it in the movie! They completely ruined it! As though it wasn't bad enough they ruined his hair!
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