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 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:00 am
In this topic I am looking for advice on what to tell my mother. Here's the true situation that is currently happening. My brother is supposed to leave on his mission on June 18th. However, In the winter, he tore his left pectoral muscle, about 3 weeks - 1 month ago he had surgery to have systs removed from his lower back. 1-2 weeks ago, the sutures tore and he had to have another surgery. Our family is going on vacation tomorrow and he can't go now. I believe that Heavenly Father is having these things happen to keep him safe from something that could happen to him on the vacation or if he left for his mission on the day he's supposed to leave. I think Heavenly Father is trying to keep him safe. Unfortunately, my mom thinks differently. She's upset that he doesn't get to go on vacation with us (as am I but not terribly because of what I earlier posted) and she thinks that Heavenly Father is just straight up screwing him and trying to do these things to hurt him. She told me she was very upset with Heavenly Father. What can I tell her to restore her full faith? Please help.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:14 am
It is important for you to fast and pray.
Your bother still gets to go on his mission right? So what is the problem there? A small delay?
You should encourage your mother to pray also.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:21 am
Yeah he still gets to go on his mission. My mom thinks that because theres gonna be a delay that he's gonna get sent somewhere other that where he's currently going. I don't understand why she's mad at Heavenly Father. My brother made the decision not to go on the vacation so he wouldn't risk tearing his sutures again so he could leave on time. I'm not sure why she's so upset? Any ideas? Anything I can tell her to restore her faith?
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:27 am
Ohhh the news keeps getting better and better! (sarcastic tone) He went to the doctors this morning and bad news. The part of his back that the surgery happened is now infected. I don't doubt Heavenly Father is doing this for a reason. So I'm not upset with him although I'm not excited because these next weeks will be a challenge and struggle for him to get to leave on his mission, but maybe he's not supposed to leave for his mission on June 18th. All I can do now is have faith in God.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:31 am
You can remind her that Heavenly Father has his reasons for what he does and that it's not up to any of us to judge him. It's also up to him whether he reveals those reason or just leave us in the dark about it. In that dark there is faith though.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 12:53 pm
Yikes... Yeah, that sounds hard alright... eek
Hm, well to me it sounds like your mom is scared and angry because of what's happening to your brother. And she's blaming God because she thought he would protect him from the pain.
But like everyone's been saying, sometimes we have to go through the hard times too... It's not that Heavenly Father doesn't care about us. We have to go through the hard times to help us remember him. If we always had it easy we'd get proud and think we're perfect. When we have trials it helps us know just how little we are. Important, but little.
As far as what you can do to help your mom?... That's hard 'cause there's not a lot you can do... You can pray for her, fast, maybe read scriptures as a family, that sort of thing... But she's the only one that can rebuild her own testimony.
I'll be praying for you!! Good luck! heart
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:31 pm
Everything happens for a reason...maybe these things need to be taken care of BEFORE he goes on his mission...a delay doesn't mean he will be sent somewhere else, it just means he will leave a bit later than originally planned...
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:57 pm
"thou shalt not receve blessings before the day of the testing of your faith" My dad says that tell ur mom
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:17 pm
Oh, what was that D&C scripture... Joseph Smith was told, while he was in prison that all these things would be for his own benifit. Likewise, we'll learn from these esperiances, no matter how hard it gets. Just because you pay tithing doesn't mean you'll be blessed financially. It could be blessings in health, education or having just enough. A person being hit in a car crash could give oportunity for the doctors to discover something else in the first stages and prevent something worse. Just remember what Christ said. "Not my will but thine be done." God has his reason. We may never see them in our lives, but they will be explained eventually.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:59 pm
I once heard a story (I think it's in the scriptures) about a very righteous man. Satan wanted to try his faith, hoping that he would stop having faith in God. So God said that Satan could take away everything the man owned, but could not harm him. So Satan destroyed the man's house and fields, and all of his other possessions, but the man was still just as righteous and faithful as always. Satan still thought that he could make the man lose faith in God. So God agreed that Satan could take the man's family from him but could not harm him. The man lost his wife and children. He did ask God why all this was happening, but his faith stayed strong. Satan thought that if the man became very ill, after all that Satan had done, he would lose faith. God allowed Satan to make the man very sick, but the man remained righteous and faithful. Finally, Satan realized that nothing could take away the man's faith. And God, seeing how much faith the man had, rewarded him. The man was fully healed from his illness. He remarried and had more children than before. He had a bigger house and more land and more money. And he was also greatly rewarded in heaven.
*disclaimer: I was writing from memory; minor details may not be exactly accurate.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:55 am
That story would be the whole book of Job.
I read a talk from confrence last night your mom should read. Susan W. Tanner's My Soul Delighteth in the Things of the Lord. While reading it I thought of this. Try to get her to read it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:24 am
First - it is not necessarily Heavenly Father doing these things -He is allowing them to happen for a reason, though. It is not necessarily a trial of faith or of righteousness - sometimes it happens so that we will be able to help others and sometimes it is for our own benefit for our education and growth. He did not promise us that if we did everything right that we would be instantly blessed and when doing wrong intstantly punished - we would then soon be like Pavlov's dogs and just do things because of the reward or punishment, not because of a desire to do right and become as our Heavenly Father. It is not easy for a mother to watch a child suffer, especially when they are "doing everything right". From the moment those little babies are placed in our arms, we want everything we have and more for them - just like Heavenly Father does. But unlike our Heavenly Father we do not see the whole picture and therefore would shelter our loved ones from pain and dissappointments - sometimes from the very things which would ensure a Celestial Crown because we can not see the end blessings, just the trials of the moment. Pray and have faith - Heavenly Father is there and He does care and He is aware!
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:45 pm
I'm sorry to hear of the pain and delay going on. I still don't quite know why the things that have happened to Paladin140 had to happen. He had to come home after 10 months in the field because of health issues and now after over a year he is still trying to fix them. He is almost always in pain of some kind and its really hard for me to see it. But the upside is that we got married sooner, his brother met his now wife at our reception, he started school when he got back so he will be done earlier and we can have a family, we got the house we did because of when we started looking.
You can try telling her past experiences where things 'went wrong' only to have them work out in the end for the better and see if that eases her feelings. I think she is just being a mother and worrying about her son and how this will affect him and the rest of you. Just be patient with her and let her know that you believe this is for the best no matter how bad it seems. I know its hard to see the good in a situation like this but in the end there will be.
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:49 am
Ouch that must suck... First of all if heavenly father loves all of us why would he have us go through any trials just for fun?? They are to help us, unless it is one that we cause by stupidity or other. So Like you said there must be a reason heavenly father is having this go on. "Endure to the end" biggrin
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:08 pm
Oops. Forgot to update the topic. My brothers mission was delayed until July 30th and is still going where he is supposed to. Thanks for all the help!
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