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SIammy

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:17 am


SlamuelBTP is always correct.

So my school, every year, does a trip to Israel. It requires fund raising, and a sizable sum of money, it required a 12-hour layover in London, it requires parents who aren't too afraid of terrorist attacks, but the 8th Grade class goes every year.

As you can probably guess, I am in that class this year, and I went. To list what I did would take too long, and I'm kind of jet-lagged and tired, so I'll just list what thoughts stood out to me.

-First of all, how easy it is to be Jewish. When you look around in a street, it is uncommon to not find that a good amount of heads with kippot on them. There is a trumpet that sounds in Jerusalem as Shabbat approaches, and all stores close on Saturday. There is a minyan at synagogue everywhere, and there is a synagogue every corner in Jerusalem, not to mention the Kotel, where there are always several minyans, at any time.

This is a good thing, of course, but at the same time, it can be bad. One of the people that spoke to us explained how if you ask a kid in Israel what makes them Jewish, they respond that they have are Israeli, not their lineage or belief. Thanks to the Jewish environment, they consider Judaism the default, not something to be proud of or that should prove difficult. And if they leave Israel to a less Jewish environment and harder environment, odds are they will become less religious. It's sad how a truly proud, Jewish populace emerges only under external pressure.

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-Misinformation about the terrorist situation. The news would have you think that Israel is a warzone, and you can't step a foot without being shot at, but we had no trouble during our trip (we did get checked at some malls, the Kotel, and had a bodyguard, though). The place I was most scared at was the super-religious neighborhood called Mea Shearim.

Discuss.

Reality is the one that has it wrong.
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:04 pm


I thought the only place this year to have mentionable damage was the South. Personally, I wouldn't feel scared if I went to Israel.

And it is not the fault of a child for thinking they're Jewish because they're Israeli. To tell you the truth, we're all Israeli because we're part of Jacob's family. However, a parent does have an obligation to educate their child on Judaism and show their pride for the Jewish religion, not just their Israeli citizenship.

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SIammy

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:52 pm


kingpinsqeezels
I thought the only place this year to have mentionable damage was the South. Personally, I wouldn't feel scared if I went to Israel.

And it is not the fault of a child for thinking they're Jewish because they're Israeli. To tell you the truth, we're all Israeli because we're part of Jacob's family. However, a parent does have an obligation to educate their child on Judaism and show their pride for the Jewish religion, not just their Israeli citizenship.
There is an art, or, rather, a knack to flying.



I dunno, when I left, a lot of my non-Jewish friends were asking if I was going to be blown up or be shot. One of my classmates' parents were afraid to let their son go, so he didn't. I was just making the point that it is perfectly safe.

The point I was trying to make is that these children seem to consider being Jewish the default, not anything special, and the only thing they consider special and pride-worthy is their Iraeli citizenship. And if they get out of Israel, these people probably experience more difficulty in being a Jew. And that could lead to being less religious.

The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:49 pm


It could also lead to being more religious, once they learn about some of the struggles we go through in other nations. Could help to instill some even better solidarity than before.

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:05 pm


stare stare stare stare stare
I'm 22 and trying to do the Birth Right trip, but that's not happening this year.
Oh look at the little grade-schoolers traveling OUTside of the freaking US and FARther than Mexico before ME. ><


I'm sorry, I'm just a Little bitter about not Getting OUT of HERE! ><
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:51 pm


I just moved back to Jerusalem from a kibbutz 30 min. away from Sderot (and will be returning to the US in four days). My parents were here in the winter of 2002, so my immediate family isn't concerned, but try telling the other folks back home that every morning you heard Kassams/F16s and weren't on the next El Al flight back to the US.

For many Israelis, the only thing that really makes them Jewish at all is the fact that they live in Israel. You take that away, and they are your typical secular person. Nonetheless, being some degree of Jewish is the norm, and easily taken for granted when you were born into and have grown up in the kind of environment Israel offers.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:35 pm


You see... I'm a bit cynical when it comes to middle eastern cease fires, for good reason.

I've often said, someone needs to get into Lebanon and end the fighting.

and I'm not talking about a Jesse Jackson style peaceful demonstration of marching to show unity.

I believe Israel's only message to Lebanon should be.

"Either you take control of your people, and what comes across your border! Or we will!"

And don't talk to me about when it comes to "destabilizing the region."

It's already unstable, and they're constantly trying to pick a fight with Israel.

The UN can send as many strongly worded letters as they want, it's not going to do anything.

I think the world just needs to let the two countries fight it out.

The Rules of International Law.

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The rules may be arbitrary and infuriating, but no mercy will be shown. So don't break any!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:15 pm


TAG LIGHT! WHOOT! I'm doing this winter or next winter or the summer after I live in brazil for a month! WHOOT! And I have a s**t load of family there that hasn't seen me in ages. I can't wait.

Zumbi2


In Medias Res II

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:50 am


I'm going to Egypt instead of Japan but I REALLY want to go to Israel. Has anyone taken the bus from Cairo to Eilat then to Jerusalem?

Would you recommend doing this?
It will be me and another girl.

I can't afford a flight, so this 15 hour trip seems to be worth it.

I'm desperate to go to Israel O.O
PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:30 am


Hmmmmm....It sort of annoying how you tell people that your going to Israel and the first thing they ask is 'Is it safe?', yet its also strange that when get there you (well Im more talking about me) fell almost safer than you'd expect being so much closer to the danger than in most other places.

(the jewish school near me also does that 8th grade trip but I don't go there...)

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