English (ESL) General Discussion

[snubsnub]

I'm a native English speaker, and I don't hate the language. I actually like the sound of it. ._.

 

[HollaAtChaBoii]

English isn't my native tongue but I don't mind the language. I find it interesting and I like how different people pronounces the word in various ways. I just don't like it when teenagers "over slang" English  

[MiasmaMoon]

Fatal Hilarity

Was "have" originally a verb, or did people only start using it instead of "have got"?

Also, are all Oxford Dictionaries British-English dictionaries only? My mother brouhgt me an American-English dictionary today, and thinking about it, I think it's the first time I've ever had or seen a specific one.

"Have" is the original verb, yes. In the case of "have got," "have" is used as an auxilary verb.

For example, it's used in the same ways as these words:

have eaten
have paid
have left

The first have is used to show possession. (Ex: I have three dogs, etc.)

I use Oxford dictionaries at home, and I think it shows both spellings. I'm not sure, however. (I need to read dictionaries more thoroughly, eh? ninja )  

[419scambaiterKoko]

MiasmaMoon

Fatal Hilarity

Was "have" originally a verb, or did people only start using it instead of "have got"?

Also, are all Oxford Dictionaries British-English dictionaries only? My mother brouhgt me an American-English dictionary today, and thinking about it, I think it's the first time I've ever had or seen a specific one.

"Have" is the original verb, yes. In the case of "have got," "have" is used as an auxilary verb.

For example, it's used in the same ways as these words:

have eaten
have paid
have left



The first have is used to show possession. (Ex: I have three dogs, etc.)

I use Oxford dictionaries at home, and I think it shows both spellings. I'm not sure, however. (I need to read dictionaries more thoroughly, eh? ninja )

It should be "have gotten" instead of "have got." I don't know why many people don't get that!  

[Im A Little Pea]

Koko.Dk

MiasmaMoon

Fatal Hilarity

Was "have" originally a verb, or did people only start using it instead of "have got"?

Also, are all Oxford Dictionaries British-English dictionaries only? My mother brouhgt me an American-English dictionary today, and thinking about it, I think it's the first time I've ever had or seen a specific one.

"Have" is the original verb, yes. In the case of "have got," "have" is used as an auxilary verb.

For example, it's used in the same ways as these words:

have eaten
have paid
have left



The first have is used to show possession. (Ex: I have three dogs, etc.)

I use Oxford dictionaries at home, and I think it shows both spellings. I'm not sure, however. (I need to read dictionaries more thoroughly, eh? ninja )

It should be "have gotten" instead of "have got." I don't know why many people don't get that!

It depends on the dialect.
Besides, "got" has two different meanings, which could be confusing.  

[Doktoro Esperanto]

Koko.Dk

It should be "have gotten" instead of "have got." I don't know why many people don't get that!

Not exactly. True, if you mean get as in to obtain, or in idiomatic expressions, then you would use gotten (as in, "I would have gotten a dog if it weren't for my landlord" or "I thought I'd gotten rid of you!"). However, "have got" is another way to say have. For example, "do you have the keys?" means the same thing as "have you got the keys?" It's used pretty informally in the US but in British English it's very common.  

[Doppelgaanger]

Well, you could also say, 'I have got to go,' I think.  

[PiercedPixie2]

Doppelgaanger

Well, you could also say, 'I have got to go,' I think.

I say that >_>
I also use it in spanish, correct or not x3  

[Nicotine Queen]

Koko.Dk

KrazyassKow

Yeah, english is the most complicated language because of all the exceptions and pronunciations and such.

not exactly Finnish is
but English is # 3 on the hardest languages list

Bah! No, Finnish is incredibly easy. For me at least.
German is very very hard for me...  

[Doppelgaanger]

There are studies by the military that say Japanese is the hardest. Obviously, there is no hardest language. Well, at the very least, it varies person to person.  

[419scambaiterKoko]

Jazzy-Devine

Koko.Dk

KrazyassKow

Yeah, english is the most complicated language because of all the exceptions and pronunciations and such.

not exactly Finnish is
but English is # 3 on the hardest languages list

Bah! No, Finnish is incredibly easy. For me at least.
German is very very hard for me...

Let's compare the ******** languages shall we?

German: 4 cases (Nominative, Accusative, Genitive, Dative)
Finnish: 15 cases (Nominative {and accusative together}, genitive, partitive, inessive, elative, adessive, ablative, allative, essive , exessive (Dialectical), translative, abessive, and comitative).

Pronounciation:
German: the gutteral "ch" sound in nicht, the "ch" sound in huge or ich, the uvular trill "r."
Finnish: very easy

Word order:
German: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Language#Word_order
Finnish: Depends on it's cases

Like Doppelgaanger said it depends on where you are coming from. Most English speakers find Finnish a lot harder compared to German. Is your native language Finnish, Estonian, Karelian, or is it English? If it's English, I having ******** idea why you found it so easy. I just started German after studying my heart and soul into Danish and found that it was easier than Danish and since I attempted Finnish too, I say German was easier for me
I've studied Danish hun, (Pronounciation hell), it's much harder than German. German and English are related and you should be able to pick out some familiar words.
I like Finnish, don't get me wrong but it's so difficult because of it's cases that I can't put a sentence together without the question of case getting in the way.

*I'm swearing because today was stressful, I have to find another job and my mother is losing her job too because how bad things are where she is working. It is under investigation right now and since her boss quit everyone's out of job. So yeah sorry if I offended you with the "********>