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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:37 pm


Discussion of the Month(I have more topics for other months)
I and another guy on another web site form made up this topic and what to get your take on it.

I found something interesting about Ichigo's hollow mask and i thought that i should share with all of you guys ...
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It was way back when Ichigo first got his shinigami powers plus a mask. As you can clearly see that the mask has only two lines/stripes in the top which are not connected to each other, nothing in the center and nothing in the bottom ...


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The pic on the left was shown after his fight against Renji when Hanatarou was healing him and the mask actually saved his life. This time the mask has three lines in the top which are not connected to each other, nothing in the center and nothing in the bottom ...

The pic on the right was shown after his fight against Zaraki Kenpachi and Yourichi (in her cat form) was holding his mask and again the mask saved his life. This time the mask has three lines in the top which are slightly longer than on the pic in the left, especially the second and the third line, which are still not connected, and now we actually have a big line and a small line in the center which are connected and nothing in the bottom ...

The mask was also shown during Ichigo vs. Byakuya fight, which was not much different from the previous pic ...

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Now when Ichigo became a vizard his mask was shown with a lot of new markings/lines. This time the mask has four lines in the top and which are connected together at one point, two full lines in the center which are also connected at one point and three new lines in the bottom which are also connected at one point ...


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The two pics on the left is during the second fight of Ichigo and Grimmjow and as you can see that the lines/stripes have become a little wider especially the place where the lines are merging together. There are still four lines in the top, and now the mask have three lines in the center and three lines in the bottom ...

The pic on the right is during Ichigo's fight with Doldooni and which is not that much different than his fight with Grimmjow ...

And also during Ichigo's fight with Ulqiuorra the mask was the same with no big change ...


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The last pic which is also the newest pic of Ichigo's mask and we can clearly see that the lines have become much wider than before and are also congested at few places. No change in the number of lines, four in the top, three in the center and three in the bottom ....

As you can clearly see, the red markings/lines/stripes have become much thicker/wider and cover more surface. I figure before too long the whole right half will be red. We can say that it's a mistake on Kubo's part, but the lines have almost doubled in number and in thickness. That's not something you repeat as a mistake a lot.

So, what do you think? Is Shirosaki taking over Ichigo soon or is it just a sign of Ichigo's increasing power? Or something else entirely?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:07 am


I say its just his power growing but who knows Kubo could go in any direction with it.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:54 am


What I think is a little complex.The lines show the hollow of Ichigo power.When they grow it shows his power or strength in general are growing.Now since both Zangest(sorry if miss spelled)and the hollow is Ichigo power source it there by means it shows Ichigo is getting stronger.His hollow did warn Ichigo to not die before he shows up again.That line is where I thought up the whole second inner battle idea.I think when he shows up the second time Ichigo might be able to learn things like cero.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:25 am


actually the thought of power growth is possible, i think once the power is truly mastered they will fade. because hiyori has diamond shapes on hers, but shinji has no colored shapes on his. also i have an idea for next months discussion,

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:58 pm


you do.I have one of my other topics I made on another web site for next month but mine can wait.I let you make the topic for next month since its your idea.Also the topic can be non bleach too.It just has to be thought provoking and/or deep thinking conversation.
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:38 pm


Perhaps the strike markings are a hollow ability unique to Ichigo. It's possible that different vizards would have hollow skills unique to them.

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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 12:17 pm


there is much reason to suspect that ichigo's mother was possibly a quincy.
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:59 pm


That could be true and why Ichigo father left S.S so he would not have to hunt and kill his love.I think his father left because his friend and who happened to be Ishida father is a qunicy and did not want to have to hunt his friend.As for what squad his dad was a captain of I think it is either 3rd,10th,or possibly 4th squad.4th squad because he is a doctor in the living world so who knows with Kibo might make him the former 4th squad captain as a twist.I don't it since the current 4th squad captain coat has long sleeves which means seniority.

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 12:41 pm


4th is an impossibilty cause its always been unohana, third was rose of the vaizards

it's possible that ishida ryuken is actually his uncle or something.
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 4:37 pm


Yeah I think rose is the third quad captain since they did say the third squad captain went off to smell the roses.The th was a guess at possible ones.As for Ichigo being half qunicy I dont think he is.It be very funny if his dad was the former captain commander.I think thats impossible but that be some twist

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 5:11 pm


Interesting I never thought of that its a possibility but I dont think he is as for his father he could be former 3rd squad captain. Cause Gin would become 5th lt shortly after the vizards leave leaving that position open so its possibility.
PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:38 pm


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That could be true and why Ichigo father left S.S so he would not have to hunt and kill his love.I think his father left because his friend and who happened to be Ishida father is a qunicy and did not want to have to hunt his friend.As for what squad his dad was a captain of I think it is either 3rd,10th,or possibly 4th squad.4th squad because he is a doctor in the living world so who knows with Kibo might make him the former 4th squad captain as a twist.I don't it since the current 4th squad captain coat has long sleeves which means seniority.

The fourth squad is out. They make a point of Ukitake, the lazy captain (forgot his name) Unohana, and Yammato being the only remnadts of the original Gotei 13. That would coincide with that theory but the 3rd and 10th squad does make sense i think. (what squad is that lazy guy captain of? he wears the flower robe thing. ) as long as it doesnt have Ukitake or that flower guy as its captain.

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:03 pm


Will its not 3rd since Rose is the captain of 3rd squad.Or we might be thinking in the wrong time you know.He could of been a captain after the captain went vizard you know.Does that make sense or should i explain it more.Also i got the topic for the next month already.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:23 pm


Ok i made this topic on another site and i got a lot of wrong kind of responses saying no he cant be because he is a vizard,.Thats not what i asking.I asking a what if?Just talking about if there was an alternative outcome.What if Ichigo became a hollow instead of a shinigami.Would Aizen make him an arrancar?Yes or no?If yes would he be strong enough to be an espada?If yes what number?

I believe yes Aizen would make him a arrancar and he would be strong enough to be a espada.I think number 3 and up.I base this off of the number 4 espada(cant spell his name)when he first appeared said when Ichigo power level was up it was higher than his.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:21 pm


I would say yes to the Espada, and 5th, only because Ulquiorra kicked Ichigo's a** to holy hell ((oxymoron)).

But I've got one for you Adam. Excluding Ichigo and saying that a person became a vaizard before learning shikai, Arracar have ressurection, and shinigami have shikai/bankai. Ressurection covers the body and shikai/bankai are usually external. If there was a special zanpakuto for Vaizard, do you think it would combine with the mask, or be similar to a well watered down version of what we call ascention?
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