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Joshua_Ritter
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:50 am


Well, ladies and gents, nice to see you. I recently attended the Sakura-con Anime Convention up here in Seattle, Washington, and I got two sweet bands of prayer beads for just $1. And so being the use of prayer beads, besides the melting of Inuyasha demons, is the repetition of chants or prayers, I need some good ones.

I know Catholic stuff is traditional and I've looked into it, but I'm not as excited about how they sound. Anyone got any spells, chants, riddles, poems, anything good for catchy sound, repetition, meditation, magical trance/energywork, whatever. Just brainstorm, contribute ideas. If you guys want something and can find nothing, I'll write a poem or something for us.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:15 am


The prayer beads you have. How many beads are there? Because the number determines what kind of prayer beads they are. Buddhist malas will have 108 beads.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:33 am


Whereas a Catholic rosary will have 50, 100, or 150 beads in groups of ten, with a further bead seperating each group, and a small length of cord with a crucifix on the end.

As for ideas -- not much. You could use a certain set of prayer beads to be a kind of physical sigil, whereby each bead represents a facet of something you desire, eg a set for finding a new partner, with each bead representing a quality you want that partner to have, which you then describe.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:30 pm


"And Shepherds we shall be

For thee, my Lord, for thee.

Power hath descended forth from Thy hand

Our feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands.

So we shall flow a river forth to Thee

And teeming with souls shall it ever be.

In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti."

*coughs*

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Aevey

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:51 pm


For someone who makes and sells various types of prayer beads, I don't know many prayers or chants for them... xd

I'll keep an eye out for you. I am curious what kind of beads they are...
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:43 pm


Maybe look up some Buddhist mantras. I've always found Buddhist mantras and mudras to be interesting.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:30 pm


Well, what do you want to do with it? If you're just trying to meditate, any single word of repetition would be fine. If you're trying to meditate on a specific element or other object, then I'd say repeating it over and over. For example, if you want to meditate on the element of fire you could just chant, "Fire, fire, fire, fire, fire" etc.

You could always try "The earth, the air, the fire, the water, return return return return."

Then there's a goddess chant, "Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate (pronounce as Heck-ah-tay or it doesn't fit), Demeter, Kali, Innanna." You can hear it on the song "Wytches" by Inkubus Sukkubus.

I also have a protection chant, but it's a bit longer...
"Terra, Ignis, Aqua, all three, elements of astral I summon thee.
Earth by divinity, Divinity by Earth, grant me protection from any curse.
With the power of Isis, Nephthys and Bast,
Protect me with this spell I cast."

There's always the standard "om" of course...

Another protection chant, "Thrice around the circle's bound, evil sink into the ground."
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:40 am


SlaineWildfire
Well, what do you want to do with it? If you're just trying to meditate, any single word of repetition would be fine. If you're trying to meditate on a specific element or other object, then I'd say repeating it over and over. For example, if you want to meditate on the element of fire you could just chant, "Fire, fire, fire, fire, fire" etc.

You could always try "The earth, the air, the fire, the water, return return return return."

Then there's a goddess chant, "Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate (pronounce as Heck-ah-tay or it doesn't fit), Demeter, Kali, Innanna." You can hear it on the song "Wytches" by Inkubus Sukkubus.

I also have a protection chant, but it's a bit longer...
"Terra, Ignis, Aqua, all three, elements of astral I summon thee.
Earth by divinity, Divinity by Earth, grant me protection from any curse.
With the power of Isis, Nephthys and Bast,
Protect me with this spell I cast."

There's always the standard "om" of course...

Another protection chant, "Thrice around the circle's bound, evil sink into the ground."

Those are pretty cool. I suppose I'm just looking for something to meditate on, and or use to put myself in a state of relatively easy gnosis, which I find when I have something that's so awesome or cool that it gives you chills. So anything latin, dark magic, just cool sounding, maybe something Buddhist or relaxing, arcane or esoteric, whatever is good, long as it's cool.

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Andiela

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:44 am


I came to use prayer beads through friends in Catholicism and in the Reclaiming pagan community, but I personally just love them. Glad you're enjoying them.

I too frequently use the Goddess chant and wordless toning/humming. I tend to rock back and forth, trance out, go deeper and build energy. While I do and have used rosaries, my first set of made prayer beads were for connecting to elements and deity.

Are there anchor beads and sectioned beads? The anchors are there at the beginning/end of each section for a repeating phrase that brings the entire session full circle. These seem to be important because this phrase by itself can immediately put you into "the mindset" of the intent of the entire set of beads.

You get to put all types of random occult info into action. Is the point to focus on what you're saying or lose yourself to allow things to work on a subconscious/higher conscious level?

Hmm, you were looking for suggestions...
Hebrew names of God, Sephiroh from the Tree of Life, sections of rituals, elements, single words-traits, tarot cards, questions, daily devotionals, counting breaths...



I'll keep my eyes open for some interesting phrases.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:56 am


(opened the nearest book that would contain some mantras that I've actually used)

Om mani padme hum. (mantra of compassion, Hindu)
Gatay, gatay, paragatay. Parasamgatay, bodhi svaha. (part of the Heart Sutra, Buddhist)

Strangely I'm not finding many non-God/dess centered ones. Are you any good a writing some yourself?

Just talking about prayer beads makes me get in a semi-trance state!

Andiela


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:33 pm


I'd just use them like a subconcious counter. Not something I'd focus on, but do. Mind you, I like the idea of a complex chain with a individual (facet like) purpose for each bead, like has been mentioned.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:53 am


Andiela
(opened the nearest book that would contain some mantras that I've actually used)

Om mani padme hum.
(mantra of compassion, Hindu)
Gatay, gatay, paragatay. Parasamgatay, bodhi svaha. (part of the Heart Sutra, Buddhist)

Strangely I'm not finding many non-God/dess centered ones. Are you any good a writing some yourself?

Just talking about prayer beads makes me get in a semi-trance state!


Actually the spelling of that particular mantra is the Tibetan spelling, so would not be used by Hindus at all. That particular spelling is a Buddhist chant appealing to Avalokiteshvara, the Bodhisattva of Compassion. The Sanskrit spelling, which may be used in Hinduism and certainly in Buddhism is "Om Mani Padma Hum".

As for the other Buddhist chant, the translation into English is "Gone, gone, gone beyond, gone comepletely beyond, praise to awakening." I myself and many other Buddhists (particularly Zen Buddhists, due to the meaning of "gone") treat this mantra as the steps to enlightenment.

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Joshua_Ritter
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:30 pm


Andiela
(opened the nearest book that would contain some mantras that I've actually used)

Om mani padme hum. (mantra of compassion, Hindu)
Gatay, gatay, paragatay. Parasamgatay, bodhi svaha. (part of the Heart Sutra, Buddhist)

Strangely I'm not finding many non-God/dess centered ones. Are you any good a writing some yourself?

Just talking about prayer beads makes me get in a semi-trance state!

Well, god or goddess centered ones can be cool. Just not as many. Actually for writing them, I'm trying to take some latin phrases and stuff, and afix them into a semi coherent whole. It is not working. I'm not too good at this game.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:17 pm


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Andiela
(opened the nearest book that would contain some mantras that I've actually used)

Om mani padme hum.
(mantra of compassion, Hindu)
Gatay, gatay, paragatay. Parasamgatay, bodhi svaha. (part of the Heart Sutra, Buddhist)



Actually the spelling of that particular mantra is the Tibetan spelling, so would not be used by Hindus at all. That particular spelling is a Buddhist chant appealing to Avalokiteshvara, the Bodhisattva of Compassion. The Sanskrit spelling, which may be used in Hinduism and certainly in Buddhism is "Om Mani Padma Hum".

As for the other Buddhist chant, the translation into English is "Gone, gone, gone beyond, gone comepletely beyond, praise to awakening." I myself and many other Buddhists (particularly Zen Buddhists, due to the meaning of "gone") treat this mantra as the steps to enlightenment.


Ah, thank you for the correction! As it isn't a focus of mine, I just go with what came from the book...interesting that it's misrepresented.

W-what?
eek
I can't trust what's written in a book?!
lol

Andiela


Blind Guardian the 2nd

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:50 am


Andiela
Ah, thank you for the correction! As it isn't a focus of mine, I just go with what came from the book...interesting that it's misrepresented.

W-what?
eek
I can't trust what's written in a book?!
lol


Out of interest, what book was it?
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