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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:55 pm


Humans:
why are we here... and i don't just mean you and me but the entire human race... whats are purpose. how are we so pose to fulfill that purpose if we don't know what it is... well what if we are already fulfilling that purpose but we just don't know it. lets look at what we are doing shall we.
we are polluting the o zone and cosing global warming, cutting down forests and killing animals, dumping trash all over the place and letting it all eventually end up in the lakes and oceans so that we pollute are water. gee I'm starting to think that we humans are destroying the earth...and thats just what we are doing. now what if god or the devil or whoever you be leave in decided that the world they made is not as great as they hoped and they wanted to try again but they realized that until this world is destroyed they cant rebuild it. so they made a simple solution...the human. they made a creacher that i be leave was best described by mr. smith from the matrix... a creature like a virise... one that wold find an area move in and kill all in the area but them. then they reproduce and make more. after a wile there are so many they have to spread out and kill more things to make room for themselves. then when they have gotten to everything they have no clean water to drink and no other things to feed on and they die out to. hence wiping the hard drive. after that the person/power that made this world can try again and if the new one is not perfect then pop! he makes humans to start the process all over again. so you see the human nature points to only one reason for existing... to wipe out any worlds that whatever higher power decided was not good enough
PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:59 pm


bump?

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Kachan36

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:38 pm


I disagree. I don't believe that humans were created by anyone or anything for any purpose. I think we just evolved this way.

Also, I don't think we are capable of actually destroying this planet. Yes, we have destroyed some things; yes, we are continuing to destroy some others, but this planet will be around long after we are gone.

Perhaps we will evolve, or (very improbably) devolve, into a different species. Possibly, we will become extinct and some other species will rise up to dominate. In any case, humans are just a blip in the Earth's existence. We may be able to ruin it for ourselves and for some other current species, but I think the Earth itself will survive humankind.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:50 am


Kachan36
I disagree. I don't believe that humans were created by anyone or anything for any purpose. I think we just evolved this way.

Also, I don't think we are capable of actually destroying this planet. Yes, we have destroyed some things; yes, we are continuing to destroy some others, but this planet will be around long after we are gone.

Perhaps we will evolve, or (very improbably) devolve, into a different species. Possibly, we will become extinct and some other species will rise up to dominate. In any case, humans are just a blip in the Earth's existence. We may be able to ruin it for ourselves and for some other current species, but I think the Earth itself will survive humankind.


yeah. we will eventually make it uninhabitable by us, and many other creatures here, but there are still some who would still thrive on the earth, possibly eveloving into a more sentient, dominant species. i dought we humans would evolve to handle it. we've never exactly been to good at that, relying upon tools instead.

Though, personally i think we will all eventually bomb ourselves to death in a big huge nuclear war. (and the cockroaches will dominate the planet....)

but you know, looking back at the idea of our purpose on this planet, I think we are the planets largest parasites. We live in an arera, we use up all its resources, then we ship resources from other parts of the world, dry them up, then go to war for even more resources. we use thiungs up and rarely try to make up for it, except conservationinsts and nature lovers. and we look at them like they are retarded.......


one last thing:
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:25 pm


I don't think the universe is here just to cater to one life inhabited planet. I believe in being created. One question: if we evolved from monkeys or some idiotic fish, why do fish and monkeys still exist? There is more to life than us. We just haven't seen it.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:27 am


Musik von der Mond
I don't think the universe is here just to cater to one life inhabited planet. I believe in being created. One question: if we evolved from monkeys or some idiotic fish, why do fish and monkeys still exist? There is more to life than us. We just haven't seen it.


While I completely agree that the universe is not here for just us, I would like to respond to your question about evolution. When species evolve, they do not cease to be in one form and suddenly appear in another. Evolution does not occur in a straight line, it is more like branches of a tree. When the branches split, one species adopts one way of doing things, while another adopts a different way. These new adaptations sprout new branches, and the process continues. We are merely one branch of the tree that contains monkeys and apes. Many years ago, that tree had only one branch, which has since split into many branches, including ours.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:09 pm


Kachan36
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I don't think the universe is here just to cater to one life inhabited planet. I believe in being created. One question: if we evolved from monkeys or some idiotic fish, why do fish and monkeys still exist? There is more to life than us. We just haven't seen it.


While I completely agree that the universe is not here for just us, I would like to respond to your question about evolution. When species evolve, they do not cease to be in one form and suddenly appear in another. Evolution does not occur in a straight line, it is more like branches of a tree. When the branches split, one species adopts one way of doing things, while another adopts a different way. These new adaptations sprout new branches, and the process continues. We are merely one branch of the tree that contains monkeys and apes. Many years ago, that tree had only one branch, which has since split into many branches, including ours.


I understand that, but I personally don't believe in humans evolving from primates. Humans have definitely changed to adapt to modern lifestyle, but evolving from apes is a far stretch.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:17 am


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Kachan36
Musik von der Mond
I don't think the universe is here just to cater to one life inhabited planet. I believe in being created. One question: if we evolved from monkeys or some idiotic fish, why do fish and monkeys still exist? There is more to life than us. We just haven't seen it.


While I completely agree that the universe is not here for just us, I would like to respond to your question about evolution. When species evolve, they do not cease to be in one form and suddenly appear in another. Evolution does not occur in a straight line, it is more like branches of a tree. When the branches split, one species adopts one way of doing things, while another adopts a different way. These new adaptations sprout new branches, and the process continues. We are merely one branch of the tree that contains monkeys and apes. Many years ago, that tree had only one branch, which has since split into many branches, including ours.


I understand that, but I personally don't believe in humans evolving from primates. Humans have definitely changed to adapt to modern lifestyle, but evolving from apes is a far stretch.


You are entitled to your beliefs, and I respect that. I was merely trying to explain that the reason you gave for not believing in evolution is not a sound one. The fact that monkeys and fish still exist is not proof that we did not all evolve from the same organism. To many people, the idea that humans were created by a superior being is a "far stretch."

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:59 am


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Kachan36
Musik von der Mond
I don't think the universe is here just to cater to one life inhabited planet. I believe in being created. One question: if we evolved from monkeys or some idiotic fish, why do fish and monkeys still exist? There is more to life than us. We just haven't seen it.


While I completely agree that the universe is not here for just us, I would like to respond to your question about evolution. When species evolve, they do not cease to be in one form and suddenly appear in another. Evolution does not occur in a straight line, it is more like branches of a tree. When the branches split, one species adopts one way of doing things, while another adopts a different way. These new adaptations sprout new branches, and the process continues. We are merely one branch of the tree that contains monkeys and apes. Many years ago, that tree had only one branch, which has since split into many branches, including ours.


I understand that, but I personally don't believe in humans evolving from primates. Humans have definitely changed to adapt to modern lifestyle, but evolving from apes is a far stretch.

to say some things on my mind
humans in many ways look simular to apes and act in some ways like them to
apes are bibedial mamales that walk in a general upright manerisim, they have eyes on the front of their head to enshure distance for where they are going and have ears that act as a dish to get more sound to go into their ears, they produce hair to insulate their flesh. and to the point of tools, apes will use tools to get at food or to make nests, for the food part they will get a stone to crack nuts open and use a thin flexible twig to get insectsm they will use leaves and branches to make nests to rest for the night.
and apes do form a hierarchy amongst themselfs the alpha male will defend the group or apear weak
also humans and apes have a lot a genomes in common, im not certian but i think its like 26-27 in common
not to mention apes can learn sign-language and take care of cats which shows intelegence and compasion.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:37 pm


If you dont have a religion, --or your religion does not have a 'flood story'-- then you shouldnt read this post, Im sorry to bring religion to this, but it is a major player here.

omega73115: you had said something about a higher power creating the human race to 'wipe out' some thing. In most major religions; such as Native American, Christianity, and Jewish [word?]; most have a flood story. Often the stories are created/told because the 'Higher Power', as you called it, wanted to get rid of all the evil in the world. So your theory of we humans being a virus is completly illogical to many people in the world.

But, i do see what you mean. Yes, we are destroying the planet, but i dont think we were meant to destroy everything on it. Human-kind just fights to survive. If some-thing were to take away nuclear power, electricity, and WOMD, then we would resort to using sticks to kill for food. We are survivers and that is what we will do, but we crave comfort. The easier it is for us, the 'better' according to many. Which is why we have poluted this planet: its too much work to find a better way. Im sure we can find a way to make cleaner, if it were easy to find. People will only find a way to fix this if we are willing to work hard at it.

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Twi666

PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:42 pm


Actually, omega is right. We are not really mammals. We destroy everything that we inhabit when we leave the area because we can't do anything else to it that will harm it. We do not have a purpose to our existance. We just simply exist. We are just a virus diverging from an ape species. And you talk about "fighting" for survival, yet, later in your post, you say that we are lazy, which is true only for the developed countries. The lazy part, that is. I'm an American. I'm not really proud of it, but I am proud that America is a country born from the bloody womb of war. Anyway.... back to our existance.

To Musik von der Mond: Evolving from apes is a long stretch? Exactly. We did not exactly evolve from primates. We evolved from a species of bipedal apes 2 million years ago that are now extinct, and they evolved from another species that also went extict and so on for three more times or so. And right there is the part where the bipedal apes that walk upright and the bipedal apes that don't diverge. No jump about 30 millions years into the past and a giant meteor impacts into what is now the Gulf of Mexico and the Carribean. When I say what is now, I mean that that impact created those two bodies of water. That impact also caused the eruptions of many volcanoes, the triggering of many earthquakes, the drowning of many organisms, etc. Jump back about 200 millions years, and the first dino is born. I don't really have a point for that last part. I just like a history lesson. razz
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:46 am




well, I only believe one thing.
that LIFE sucks and ppl living in this world gotta' deal with it.

-- it doesn't matter how or why we exist.
we got life, LIVE IT! We only got 1 life to live, so why waste discovering the things behind it.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:52 am


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well, I only believe one thing.
that LIFE sucks and ppl living in this world gotta' deal with it.

-- it doesn't matter how or why we exist.
we got life, LIVE IT! We only got 1 life to live, so why waste discovering the things behind it.



Life does not suck. Sure it doesn't [in its own context] matter how we got here, but if we find that out for sure, we could find ways to live longer, healthier, etc. like the Biblical people. (I know not all of you are religious, but to point it out, Noah was said to have lived 1000 years!)

P.S:
I am Christian, but I do not believe in the seven days creation thing. I believe in the timeline that happened over millions of years.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:04 am


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well, I only believe one thing.
that LIFE sucks and ppl living in this world gotta' deal with it.

-- it doesn't matter how or why we exist.
we got life, LIVE IT! We only got 1 life to live, so why waste discovering the things behind it.



Life does not suck. Sure it doesn't [in its own context] matter how we got here, but if we find that out for sure, we could find ways to live longer, healthier, etc. like the Biblical people. (I know not all of you are religious, but to point it out, Noah was said to have lived 1000 years!)

P.S:
I am Christian, but I do not believe in the seven days creation thing. I believe in the timeline that happened over millions of years.


Actually, I'm studying in a Private Catholic School here in my place, since the day I started studying.
& everyday we have bible studies for like 1 and 1/2 hrs. Every 1st friday of the month, the school have gathering in our schl church. We celebrate every feast of saints. etc ..

But I've studied history also. Ever heard of Martin? Zwingli? or even Calvin? well, IDK .. but as long as we find/search for something WE CONTRADICT what was SEARCHED before.

--- my point: Live as if there's no more tomorrow. Let's not waste it.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:51 am


s e 7 e n_x
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well, I only believe one thing.
that LIFE sucks and ppl living in this world gotta' deal with it.

-- it doesn't matter how or why we exist.
we got life, LIVE IT! We only got 1 life to live, so why waste discovering the things behind it.



Life does not suck. Sure it doesn't [in its own context] matter how we got here, but if we find that out for sure, we could find ways to live longer, healthier, etc. like the Biblical people. (I know not all of you are religious, but to point it out, Noah was said to have lived 1000 years!)

P.S:
I am Christian, but I do not believe in the seven days creation thing. I believe in the timeline that happened over millions of years.


Actually, I'm studying in a Private Catholic School here in my place, since the day I started studying.
& everyday we have bible studies for like 1 and 1/2 hrs. Every 1st friday of the month, the school have gathering in our schl church. We celebrate every feast of saints. etc ..

But I've studied history also. Ever heard of Martin? Zwingli? or even Calvin? well, IDK .. but as long as we find/search for something WE CONTRADICT what was SEARCHED before.

--- my point: Live as if there's no more tomorrow. Let's not waste it.


I gotcha. I want to live life to its fullest too. But finding the origin of life is an ongoing mystery. Even if we don't find it out for centuries later, it's important to take in lots of ideas.
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