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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:41 am
scream scream scream scream They've made a remake of the Tai movie 'The Shutter' which is compleatly ******** up. it doesnt even look CLOSE the the magnificence of the original (look for it on youtube "The Shutter" its in 10 parts and has got to be one of the best horror films i have seen in AGES.) i saw the ad for the american version tonight at the cinima (and whats more they're not showing Sweeny Todd anymore which tee'd me off even more) how can we let these travisties happen!!!!! absolute masterpieces that are foreign films being made into crap americanised immitations losing the whole context of what makes a great film. it just pisses me off!!! like its that hard to read subtitles for crap sake scream scream scream scream
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:08 am
Some americans will do anything for a fist full of dollars, it can hardly be helped.
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:19 am
Chances are the original sucked anyway. I've seen the originals for some of the movies remade by America. Still just as not scary as we made it. Don't try making excuses for the genre. We can do it just as well as anyone. The problem is, people keep going to see these horrible movies, and the critics take that as people liking them, and the studios keep producing them.
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:07 pm
The original was really god by my standards, It was surprising and you wouldn't of guessed the ending in a thousand years. Unless you watched it before or someone spoiled it for you along the way. Really good though.
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:16 pm
*Masters of Horror* Whatis the shutter about? is that the one with like the vil camera or whatever? I haven't seen it, but if that's what it is, I think Goosebumps and Are You Afraid of the dark both had episodes similar to it. =3 those were good shows man. *is the best guild evar*
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:47 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:03 pm
Remakes typically suck. But sometimes, they can be a little better. That's not the case all the time though.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:48 pm
ALL the remakes i've seen so far were reaLLy bad... sad
Even americans remaking their own movies...(Texas chainsaw massacre pour exampLe)
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:22 pm
Good Asian films, such as Ringu, Ju-on and Dark Waters were all cheap productions. Yet they manage to freak everyone out.
But American remakes just destroy everything. I suppose it's because the Western fears and Asian ones are different. (Yeah, I'm a Chinese Westernised Singaporean, so I'm exposed to both.) In my opinion anyway, Caucasians seem to fear the unknown. Asian lore is filled with superstition and vengeful spirits. I guess what we fear most is the fact that someone we love can't rest peacefully.
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:42 pm
"Caucasians seem to fear the unknown." *DINGDINGDING* Dead on hit there. mrgreen I'm not sure why this is, (or why this guild is still here...) but people tend to be terrified of the dark, even in an unchanging room they've been in countless times. Knowledge is power, without the knowledge of what may be around the corner or under the bed, some feel powerless and scared, how many horror movie's sets are mid-day, brightly lit? It's also (I'd say) why some people deny that which has no "solid proof" of existance, like ghosts, goblins, aliens, ect, ect. If those things were to be acknowledged as real, it would mean there is something man does not know, doesn't know how to conquer, and doesn't know if it seeks to conquer us. An unnerving thought to some, which may be why they deny it so strongly. Humans used to be afraid of the world outside their homes, now it's practically the other way around. If man ever colonizes other planets, there will be fears of alien beasts and people until all is figured out, maybe even for some time afterward. What's so scary about unhappy relatives? Their unrest seems more sad than scary to me. Also sad: the american films tend to leave the unknown just that, rather than unvieling their great mystery, leaving BIG holes for you to guess at. Not scary, ANNOYING.
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:27 pm
*Masters of Horror* That's because a lot of us realize that there is more than likely no afterlife, and as such it'd be impossible for our dead relatives to be unresting. Tales of afterlife were created because, well, it's just really depressing to think that nothing happens when you die. Most cultures couldn't cope with that, just like most couldn't cope with not knowing how they got here. As a result, we have religions, gods, and afterlife.
Now something creeping up on you in the dark, that could be anything which is why it is scary. Everyone has different fears, so everyone probably imagines the things that scare them. That is what makes a good horror movie. Being able to appeal to and frighten people with varying fears. And that's why all of these things suck. Because in the end, it's just a ghost, or a giant monster that doesn't look scary at all. *is the best guild evar*
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 5:49 am
Whee, I scored a point. biggrin
Why do ghosts like Sadako freak people out so much? If you turn off the sound, the ghost actually looks pretty comical. And the weird stiff corpse walking out of the grave thingy has been used in so many movies, yet, it continues to disturb me each time I watch one of those Asian horror movies.
I do believe there is something after death though. What happens to our consciousness when we die? What if we're still trapped in our bodies, and we just can't move?
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:40 pm
Dude, the original Ring is ******** creepy. The American one is too...but..ya know.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:54 pm
Varmeip "Caucasians seem to fear the unknown." *DINGDINGDING* Dead on hit there. mrgreen I'm not sure why this is, (or why this guild is still here...) but people tend to be terrified of the dark, even in an unchanging room they've been in countless times. Knowledge is power, without the knowledge of what may be around the corner or under the bed, some feel powerless and scared, how many horror movie's sets are mid-day, brightly lit? It's also (I'd say) why some people deny that which has no "solid proof" of existance, like ghosts, goblins, aliens, ect, ect. If those things were to be acknowledged as real, it would mean there is something man does not know, doesn't know how to conquer, and doesn't know if it seeks to conquer us. An unnerving thought to some, which may be why they deny it so strongly. Humans used to be afraid of the world outside their homes, now it's practically the other way around. If man ever colonizes other planets, there will be fears of alien beasts and people until all is figured out, maybe even for some time afterward. What's so scary about unhappy relatives? Their unrest seems more sad than scary to me. Also sad: the american films tend to leave the unknown just that, rather than unvieling their great mystery, leaving BIG holes for you to guess at. Not scary, ANNOYING. While I agree with most of what you said, I completely disagree with the last thing you said. Most of the American remakes of asian horror films explain much more or try to have some sort of "closure" at the end. One of my favorite films of all time is Three Extremes, a movie made up of 3 different, completely unrelated stories. They are each of different origin, one Korean, one Mandarin Chinese, and one Japanese. The Korean one, Cut, has one of the most confusing, strange endings of any movie I have seen. It is absolutely unexplained. If it was remade as an American film, I know that they would change it to have much more explanation. On a similar note, some remakes will change parts in the movie, sometimes even the ending, because American audiences can't take it. Many movies with major deaths in the end in the original will be changed to make it "happier" or something.
But I am angry that they have remade so many of my favorite Asian horror films. I thought that the Ring was an alright movie (even though I haven't seen the original) and the Grudge was even alright. But when they remade the Eye and Shutter, I was pissed. Both were amazing films, and I knew that they were going to be ruined. I have heard that my favorite movie, A Tale of Two Sisters (a Korean film), is being remade!! It is going to be set in Britain in the 70's!!
I apologize for such a rant, but this is a topic that I have been fuming on for quite a while ^_^
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