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IceeWitch

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:25 pm


IF I don't do it now it'll never happen.
This is where we can talk about this stuff:

Okay, America is getting ready for Election 2008.
Before that happens the major parties (Rep. & Dem) have to choose
a candidate. That's done through caucuses and primaries
in each party. Right now that's what's happening.

Who are you supporting and why?? If you don't have a preference
to a candidate, you can still post your opinions about the others.

I'm mostly liberal, and I support Obama.
(Out of time for now, but I'll be posting later)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:29 pm


I support Obama, as well. He's the only one (that I know of) who will get America out of Iraq. My religion is anti-violence (but I promise not to get all preachy) so I am against the war. I like a lot of his other policies as well.

DaBonster


miss_fawcett

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:28 am


I'm teetering between Obama and Clinton. My big issue is Environmental Policy, and they both have basically the same plans there.
Lately I've been leaning towards Obama though. He's very charismatic, so I wouldn't mind having to listen to him for the next four years. Although his lack of experience in politics leaves me a little wary.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:44 pm


I support Clinton because I think she has her head on straight and is realistic about what needs to be and can be done for the US to be back on track again. She seems quite down to earth, which I like.

SeverusSupporter


PhilbertTenderbean

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:26 pm


SeverusSupporter
I support Clinton because I think she has her head on straight and is realistic about what needs to be and can be done for the US to be back on track again. She seems quite down to earth, which I like.


I agree. I'm all for her giving every child born in America 5 grand. It is a very realistic and down to earth approach to abolishing the poverty line once and for all. I also think it's great that if she wins, we get two presidents for the price of one! Might be constitutionally illegal, but maybe it'll set precedence so Arnie can finally fulfill his destiny as president of the world.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:00 pm


I gotta be honest, I don't know who I'm going to vote for, but I do like what I hear about Barak Obama. I'm not sure what I think about Hilary, though she seems kind of like a b***h, heh. But I probably will vote for whichever Democrat candidate wins the candidacy.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:53 pm


I'm not able to vote in this next election, but I've been seeing all that mess in the news online. Pigsty, absolute pigsty.

I don't like either Democrat. Please don't get your britches in a knot because of this.
Obama: Because he won't even show respect during the National Anthem! If this guy wants to run this country, if anyone wants to run any country, he should show respect for some of this country's dearest symbols and ideals. Obama didn't.
There's more to it, but that's enough to be going on with for now.

Clinton: would be setting a potentially dangerous precedent. Think about it. Constitutionally, one person may be president for two terms, a total of eight years, only. Now consider this scenario: A man is president. Does his two terms. Convinces his wife to run for president. She wins two terms. In reality, the husband was influencing the wife behind the scenes, running the country with a puppet ruler for eight extra years.
It could also work the other way around.
Doesn't this sound like a problem? I'm not saying that the Clintons are necessarily like this, but if we say it's okay to let spouses run after a person has served two terms, we're opening a door to this sort of thing.
Besides which, Mr. Clinton was not that great a president. I've heard some nasty things about what he's done. And his wife was apparantly in on some of them. I don't like that.

I don't know about many of the Republican candidates, but anyone there would be better than these two, I know it.

I could also get into what I think about their plans to suck troops out of the Middle East all of the sudden, but I think I've gone on long enough now.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:36 pm


I'm afraid you've fallen for some anti-Obama ads. He does respect the National Anthem, and he says the Pledge of Allegiance. He even leads it on many days. A lot of people seem to be in the business of spreading lies about him. I would reccomend that anyone who will vote this election (or even if you can't) should look into multiple sources of information before making up their minds. After all, it's only fair.

DaBonster


PhilbertTenderbean

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:00 pm


DaBonster
I'm afraid you've fallen for some anti-Obama ads. He does respect the National Anthem, and he says the Pledge of Allegiance. He even leads it on many days. A lot of people seem to be in the business of spreading lies about him. I would reccomend that anyone who will vote this election (or even if you can't) should look into multiple sources of information before making up their minds. After all, it's only fair.


Agreed. And without my usual smarmy additions. Too many people base their vote off one or two 30 second sound bites.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:27 pm


DaBonster
I'm afraid you've fallen for some anti-Obama ads. He does respect the National Anthem, and he says the Pledge of Allegiance. He even leads it on many days. A lot of people seem to be in the business of spreading lies about him. I would reccomend that anyone who will vote this election (or even if you can't) should look into multiple sources of information before making up their minds. After all, it's only fair.


I totally agree. I think Alutian's speaking on Obama allegedly not saying the pledge. I doubt he'd be a US Senator if he didn't. That's crazy. According to the girl in my class, he was video taped talking during the Pledge. Let's not get hypocritical here. I know that I don't always say the Pledge in the mornings, and there are times when I'm talking during it. Like to do in school: We were having a mock AA meeting (don't ask) and was talking while our principal begin the pledge. I caught on during the last bit (everyone else followed too, we didn't hear it). Does that mean I'm unpatriotic?? No, it just means that I was engrossed into something else at the moment, that temporarily diverted my attentions to something other than saying the Pledge in that instance. Had Obama never said the Pledge I'd understand, but it was ONE time (allegedly). Americans are the biggest hypocrites.
Another untruth that is spread about him is that he's a Muslim. FICTION. Obama is in fact a Christian, even though it shouldn't matter anyway since one of the reasons America was founded was for religious freedom. I mean if you're going to say something check it to make sure it has some basis of fact. I'm sick of all the he-say, she-say stuff.

IceeWitch


IceeWitch

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:34 pm



The Clintons...
Before I begin, I just want to say that I'm a total nerd, and one of my favorite topics is America. I love the geography and the history of it. I distinctly remembering that the rule stated that you had to be a male in order to run. Yes I know that it can go down as "unconstitutional" and be changed, but why just now, for the Clintons?
My mother supported Bill Clinton (she also supports Hiliary) so I grew up thinking he was the best president we've ever had. Well this election has shown me otherwise. I honestly detest Hiliary. She's an extremely dirty politician: she'd do anything for power. I don't want that. If she were on the ticket, I wouldn't vote for her. I'd go Republican, or try Ron Paul.
(I also agree with what Alutian is saying...it's the same thing (in an aspect) of what FDR did by getting elected four terms).
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:07 pm


*cough* no constitutional stipulations that you hafta be a male. Just hafta be old enough, American Born (which is why poor Arnie can't run. sad ), and a long-standing American resident.

PhilbertTenderbean


Junimaia

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:30 pm


In regards to the presidential qualifications in the constitution, Icee is right in saying that at some point during America's history only males were allowed to run for office. However, this was changed in 1920, when the 19th amendment gave women the right to vote. Hillary Clinton isn't the first woman to serve office in the government, but she's certainly the first to go for the presidency. The rule wasn't changed JUST for the Clintons.


As for who I support... well I voted for Obama in the primary. At this point I think I might vote for him again if he's the one on the ballot for president. But I haven't paid too much attention to the Republicans, so I'll have to do more research before I decide for sure.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:10 pm


Well if snape was a candidate i would vote him hands down!!! but obama is a second choice!!>.<

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DaBonster

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:57 pm


Junimaia
In regards to the presidential qualifications in the constitution, Icee is right in saying that at some point during America's history only males were allowed to run for office. However, this was changed in 1920, when the 19th amendment gave women the right to vote. Hillary Clinton isn't the first woman to serve office in the government, but she's certainly the first to go for the presidency. The rule wasn't changed JUST for the Clintons.


As for who I support... well I voted for Obama in the primary. At this point I think I might vote for him again if he's the one on the ballot for president. But I haven't paid too much attention to the Republicans, so I'll have to do more research before I decide for sure.


Hillary Clinton is not the first woman to run for President in America, she's just the first to get on the primary ballots for a major party (e.g. G.O.P. or Democrat) At least two other women that I've heard of have run for president, one in the 1800's and one in the 1900's, but I don't remember their names. (They weren't very successful.)

Yeah, I'm a bit of a History nerd, too. sweatdrop
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