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 Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:50 am
EDIT: Use this Thread to report extended means of absense
Hello, fellow philosophers. The dark times threaten to descend upon my life...I shall not be able to get to the computer for two weeks! We are moving into a new house, and starting the 25th our internet will be changing and undergoing repair. I hope I will be able to get back to my duties as soon as possible, and I wish you all luck in your philosophical undertakings.
And, so as not to waste a thread, I shall make this a discussion:
Teenagers and children these days have a social life on the computer almost equal to their social life in reality. On gaia, we can make our personality shine with all sorts of little bits and bobs, but is iot really worth it? Will we grow up and wonder why we spent so much time in a different reality, learning things that what we call 'real life' does not value?
Will we regret not writing our philosophical musings somewhere safer, somwhere they cannot be deleted, edited, or mangled in other ways? Time is infinite, yet humans only get an infinitely small share of it. Will we regret using its both healing and destructive power for something we will later find...worthless?
(This thread will henceforth be used in order to announce all such vacations or dillemas which do not allow us to go on the computer, so as not to waste countless threads with goodbyes.)
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:23 pm
In the essence of things for those who don't already know:
I have begun college as of the 22nd and my free time is very limited with the large amount of homework and school hours. Also my internet at this new location is very unstable and will not work a majority of the time. While the internet is being worked on as we type, I will still not be on any more than once or twice a week IF I come on at all...plz feel free to PM me in my absence and I will reply ASAP.
Now the philo.:
This is the 21st Century. Socrates merely discussed his ideas never actually writing them down. Plato wrote down Socrates ideas as well as his own to be viewed by history eons later. The Blog and Forum are todays blabbings of the strange and eccentric men that claim to know everything and nothing both at once. While yes, some of what I do in front of this computer is evidently pointless. Other things are not. Such as now. People are very impressionistic, meaning that, every single word I type someone is taking into account and making my ideals ((some, all, or just one)) theirs. Whenever I get on the computer I learn something, whether it's true or not is debatable but I do learn it. and half the tiome I in turn teach something, whether I know what I'm teaching or I absent mindedly babble, someone will learn.
And whos to say someone ISN'T writing all this down? I'm not because I have no desire to be remembered after my death. But someone might.
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Socrates in Disguise Captain
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:03 pm
Hmn...I started senior year the 23rd. However, I have a computers class, and I'll be on whenever I can. Which might not be much, seeing as how it seems to be a rather challenging class.
As for the other topic...meh. I'm an existentialist, with strong nihilist tendencies. I'm not much for remembering people from the past, but philosophy is an exception. I wouldn't mind people remembering what I said...but I'd actually prefer it to be passed down by word-of-mouth...it seems to have more feeling. No one wants to open a book and read about what Socrates or Jung said about the world, they want someone to tell them.
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:49 pm
Frosh in college, I think we all know how this is going to go.
Honestly, to me this is writing things down. I've considered collecting what I've done and keeping safe somewhere else, but I just havn't done it.
And believe not what those in the 'real' world say to you. All worlds are real and fake. All things are and aren't. It's all in how you (literally you) look at it. We lead the lives we wish, we make of them what we want, and we work for a future that suits who we are. We all write out future history, it's just a matter of what we want it to say.
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:05 am
I am beyond my college years, so nothing changes for me. It's more a matter if I can pull myself away from gaia-fishing long enough to post here. xd
And no, I have no regrets about sharing my philophical opinions here. I am just happy to have a place to release these pent up useless ideas that float around in my head, since most of my friends can not grasp philosophy or they just aren't willing to debate it with me. And I would go more insane debating philosophy with myself. If I wrote it down, in a notebook or anywhere else on the computer, nobody is likely to ever see it besides myself unless I happen to become famous and my notebooks get published after my death.
With the onset of the information age, it is very possible that things like this forum could exist for a very very long time. And with websites like "the way back machine" the entire internet gets archived on a regular basis. Our "imaginary" world is rapidly becoming the real world as people travel less and communicate more. I, personally, can not wait for the day when I can work from my computer at home. Wake up at 8am, stumble over to my pc in my boxers and log-in to work with my future children logging in to school right next to me. xd
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:13 pm
emotional issues and school... please someone tell me how i could be talking in a dead language... i shouldn't know it and how can people translate it, PEOPLE more then one... and then other s**t i don't know what to think any more, so yeah i'm haveing issues... so may be preoccupied in my posts, i would like someone to bring this up in a discussion but it won't let me create any new topics for some reason... oh and my brother is now in jail and my mother just lost her job... my life officially sucks! i'm trying my hardest to keep insanity away from me and no ones around to help
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:07 am
Sinesthera emotional issues and school... please someone tell me how i could be talking in a dead language... i shouldn't know it and how can people translate it, PEOPLE more then one... and then other s**t i don't know what to think any more, so yeah i'm haveing issues... so may be preoccupied in my posts, i would like someone to bring this up in a discussion but it won't let me create any new topics for some reason... oh and my brother is now in jail and my mother just lost her job... my life officially sucks! i'm trying my hardest to keep insanity away from me and no ones around to help How can you be talking a dead language? If a language is dead, it doesn't mean it isn't spoken anymore, it means it doesn't evolve anymore. It can still be taught. As for stressful situations, I've found that making a plan and taking one step at a time generally works best.
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:22 pm
i meant that i've never heard it before i don't even know what the language is...
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:13 am
Sinesthera i meant that i've never heard it before i don't even know what the language is... Have you considered the possibility that it is not the language that can be translated, but the way you project/behave yourself while speaking it? There is also the possibility, of course, that the people you speak to, and that understand you while you speak this language, may just be so familiar with you that you're easy to read.
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:11 am
ochimaru It's more a matter if I can pull myself away from gaia-fishing long enough to post here. xd Ain't that the flippin' truth...I made myself sell my fishin' pole... Who's to say what makes a language d3ad? I'm sure that if we taught enough people, say, Latin, as a first language, and taught them no other, eventually, they'd evolve the language. At most, languages like Latin, Aramaic, and Cyrillic are dormant, not d3ad.
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:18 pm
i was writting it on the computer, spelling it out phoenetically, and then other times i was talking it, and some of the things i said, i checked with the other person, it was a mix between talking to them and writing to them, i had long convorsations with them then had someone else translate. i've learned things i didn't know i knew, i don't know how they could have guessed some of the things i said,there were some mix ups when they thought one word was another but not many. i still don't know what i've been saying, i don't know this language i tried typeing some of it into the computer and i can't find record of it except in really odd places...
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:34 pm
a person actually gave me a very old book on languages which had a foot note about some of the words and they had the same meaning but this is the only record of it soo far and its a very old language, i'm wondering how either me or my freinds could know it, it's over 2000 years old and i've only found one foot note about the language so far, sometimes it's other languages too it's really weird, i haven't met many who can do this only about 5 people and some can't translate everything and one only those that they've read about and they did extensive study of languages
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:38 pm
Sinesthera i've learned things i didn't know i knew Been there, done that, forgot most of it. I've already talked about my almost supernatural knowledge of the Alice in Chains back catalog, haven't I? Not to mention my knowledge of certain archaic languages...
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:24 am
Sinesthera i was writting it on the computer, spelling it out phoenetically, and then other times i was talking it, and some of the things i said, i checked with the other person, it was a mix between talking to them and writing to them, i had long convorsations with them then had someone else translate. i've learned things i didn't know i knew, i don't know how they could have guessed some of the things i said,there were some mix ups when they thought one word was another but not many. i still don't know what i've been saying, i don't know this language i tried typeing some of it into the computer and i can't find record of it except in really odd places... So you can find record of it. That's pretty handy. What's the language called? Sinesthera a person actually gave me a very old book on languages which had a foot note about some of the words and they had the same meaning but this is the only record of it soo far and its a very old language, i'm wondering how either me or my freinds could know it, it's over 2000 years old and i've only found one foot note about the language so far, sometimes it's other languages too it's really weird, i haven't met many who can do this only about 5 people and some can't translate everything and one only those that they've read about and they did extensive study of languages Allow me to get this straight. You received a book on languages. With words in it that you and your friends understand. (But if they're explained in the footnote, that doesn't strike me as too surprising) Did you receive this book before or after you discovered your talent, though? Because I must admit that part is a little unclear.
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:54 pm
i got the book after i found it. and i didn't really get the book i was shown the book. it was only a foot note so it wasn't much information... i should ask the person who owns it to tell me but i haven't talked to them in a while... a long while... but other people seem to know what i'm saying and they translate it the same. my freinds the translators some have never met they don't know each other yet still they agree...
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