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 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:27 pm
I've been looking to learn Japanese since early last year, but more seriously, since August last year. I've learned all the kana, and I've stockpiled tons of resources, but I don't know where to go next.
I know everybody says to learn kana first, but I've past that, and I'm clueless at how to continue.
I'm definitely not stuck for resources [I have a huge list of resources in my favorites, and a few pages that have tons of resource links on them], but there's just so many different approaches out there I'm not sure where to go next.
I'm part of my school's Japanese club, but we haven't even learned anything but the first five kana there, so I don't expect to gain a lot out of that.
And I've considered taking a class, and I'm going to take a course at the community college, but it's more geared at people looking to learn a little bit before they go on vacation or something. The textbook that I have to use for the class is Japanese for Busy People - romanized version, so I'm pretty sure that there's not going to be any serious Japanese learning there.
I've added myself to the list of people looking for a sensei (in this guild), but I don't think that's going to be too profitable, since there's very few sensei compared to the gakusei.
I thought about looking for maybe a native Japanese speaker on the web to be a conversation partner and help me learn that way, but I don't think I know enough Japanese yet.
Suggestions for where to go next?
[although I don't really need more resources, if you think something in particular has a good pattern to follow, please feel free to suggest somewhere]
And a little side note, I enjoy Asian dramas, and I was wondering if it's profitable to listen to J-dramas. I've already heard that you -shouldn't- learn from anime, because it's not real Japanese, but what about J-dramas. I know it's not going to be formal and some of it may be irrelevant, but is it a bad idea to try and learn while I'm watching them?
ありがとございます～
～ミヅ
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:11 pm
Learn Kanji, both writing it, read it and it's meanings.
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:44 am
It's the same with J-Dramas as with anime, however I agree and disagree with people who say it's a big nono. If you know the difference between formal and informal well enough, I don't think it's a bad idea. It may help your pronunciation, and will definitely help you understand better. The problem is picking up bad speaking habits. Just don't rely on it.
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:01 pm
Koiyuki: I've heard that when learning kanji, it's best to also learn compounds. Of all my resources, I don't have one that lists compounds [or if it does, it lists a ton of them - some of which I'm sure aren't as important as others when beginning kanji studies], is there anyway to know what compounds are important and/or do you have any resources with the important compounds for particular kanji?
Stellar Green: Thanks for the insight. I was planning on using it more as a listening exercise than using it for learning, but I wanted to double check that it would be a realistic exercise. ^_^
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:06 pm
I'm not going to be much help, im already telling you that.
But I'm learning japanese by myself as well, with the resources i have, and pilling up on more. Planning on buying a good Kanji Dictioanry from Mitsuwa this sunday.
But the way I'm learning (don't know if this is a good approach of bad, but i see it as good to myself, knowing how i learn) is first i learned all the kana, as you say you have. Next i would say start on you're kanji and learning words. It will help you catch the understanding of things when you're reading them in japanese or hearing them. That's how i see it atleast. Also after a while, start with particles, compounds, sentence structures, and whatnot.
Once again, i doubt i was any help.
But good luck to you =]
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:46 am
Kyoane_Ghoul I'm not going to be much help, im already telling you that.
But I'm learning japanese by myself as well, with the resources i have, and pilling up on more. Planning on buying a good Kanji Dictioanry from Mitsuwa this sunday.
But the way I'm learning (don't know if this is a good approach of bad, but i see it as good to myself, knowing how i learn) is first i learned all the kana, as you say you have. Next i would say start on you're kanji and learning words. It will help you catch the understanding of things when you're reading them in japanese or hearing them. That's how i see it atleast. Also after a while, start with particles, compounds, sentence structures, and whatnot.
Once again, i doubt i was any help.
But good luck to you =] I recommend Wikipedia, odd as that sounds. They have pages on types of adjectives, verb conjugation, etc. And while it's not a replacement for normal study, I have found it very helpful. When I finally went over the verb conjugation page things that should have made sense to me before finally did. And Popjisyo is good too, as it can help you find the proper Kanji for things and also works as a quick dictionary that goes both ways. As Kanji goes, you mouse over the Kanji and it'll give you it's meaning and pronunciation. It's helped greatly for me.
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:11 am
watchingmidnight Koiyuki: I've heard that when learning kanji, it's best to also learn compounds. Of all my resources, I don't have one that lists compounds [or if it does, it lists a ton of them - some of which I'm sure aren't as important as others when beginning kanji studies], is there anyway to know what compounds are important and/or do you have any resources with the important compounds for particular kanji?
Stellar Green: Thanks for the insight. I was planning on using it more as a listening exercise than using it for learning, but I wanted to double check that it would be a realistic exercise. ^_^ In general, the compounds you're gonna want to learn, are the ones you'll use more frequently in your everyday Japanese life(ie learning the legal jargon of the land won't do you much good, when you're not in a court room and so on)
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:20 am
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