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Kipluck

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:32 am


It has been INTERESTING for me, lately, talking politics with people. I am NOT good at politics. I don't really KNOW politics. But people have been asking me about things I BELIEVE just because a Mormon is running for President. Mitt Romney. Will I vote for him? Probably not. I don't know enough about his politics yet to see if I even AGREE with the guy (just because we go to the same church does NOT mean we agree on political stuff). But it HAS given me reason to read more about him to find OUT if I agree with his views. Most recently I read this interview (not religious in nature at all... which works for ME as I KNOW his religious stuff, it's the OTHER stuff I am clueless about the man on).

So, how important is a candidates religion to you? Is it enough for you to vote for them? To NOT vote for them? What would you think if the president was the same religion as you? Would anything change?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:00 pm


Personally, I don't see why someone's religious standings should make a difference in a choice for presidency. I'm not going to vote for someone simply because of their religious preference. As far as I know, America is supposed to be a religiously tolerant country, but we fail to see it as such.

While a candidate may not believe the same as I, I don't see why that should make a difference when it comes down to the politics of the country. If someone is throwing their religion around like its going to get them more votes, I may end up not voting for them simply because they're using religion as a reason why to vote for them.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:31 am


My girlfriend had a very interesting perspective on this subject matter. While my own beliefs on this are still forming, I'll mention hers...

She thinks that when there should be separation of church and state, that should be FULL separation. The second a candidate mentions religion in connection with government, he should be out of the running. If a president says God told him to do anything (yes, she had Bush in mind), he should face instant impeachment. Also, she and I both feel that prayer to open or close any government meeting of any form should be completely done away with.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:16 am


I watched a powerful speech on the national news yesterday where Mitt Romney declared that while he was not going to turn his back on his religion, he was not going to let his religion get in the way of his duties as president, should he be elected into office. I applaud him for this. He basically did the same thing JFK had to do before people started taking him seriously. JFK was Catholic, and our only non-Protestant president (save a couple Founding Fathers, who were Unitarian).

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:07 am


Kipluck

So, how important is a candidates religion to you? Is it enough for you to vote for them? To NOT vote for them? What would you think if the president was the same religion as you? Would anything change?


The religion of a person is not a reliable indicator of their stance on any particular issue given the tremendous diversity within the broad identification terms. I judge based on their ideologies, but whether or not that actually matches up with the common cannon of their religion is a moot point to me. The exception to this is perhaps extremism of a conviction, conventionally considered a religion or otherwise. I would no sooner vote for a militant Atheist like Dawkins than I would for Pat Roberson. Both are extremely religious in their own right - to the point that it begins to seriously cloud their judgement. Whoever is elected needs to be tolerant and extremism does not allow for tolerance; tolerance needs to cover not just religion, but a broader gamut of things as well.

If there was a Neopagan president? Hah. Yeah. That'll happen in my lifetime. It probably wouldn't mean much considering how broad Neopaganism is. But suppose they followed something closer to my own system? Well, for one, I'd be overjoyed to know our goverment would finally get off its a** in terms of dealing with environmental issues seriously for once... Gods it pisses me off to see Bush sit on his a** if not outright work against sound environmental policy. burning_eyes Not to mention that there wouldn't be any more BS like the pentacle headstone descrimination and we'd actually get a Neopagan chaplain in the military. Damn that'd be nice.

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She thinks that when there should be separation of church and state, that should be FULL separation. The second a candidate mentions religion in connection with government, he should be out of the running. If a president says God told him to do anything (yes, she had Bush in mind), he should face instant impeachment. Also, she and I both feel that prayer to open or close any government meeting of any form should be completely done away with.


To me, that's not seperation, that's outright banishment. You might as well say only an Atheist can be president with that sort of policy (though persnoally, I consider Atheists, at least the staunch ones, to be at least as religious as the traditionally religious). The idea was to avoid a theocracy or imposing any one religious system on the people, not to punish people for having a religion and living by it.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:33 pm


a candidate's religion means little to me, what matters is how a candidate acts out his/her religion. Bush has his religion interfere/influence his political decisions and how he treats people overall (he has said that Wicca is not a valid religion, for example). I think that is not only disrespectful of people overall, but poor presidenting. I appreciate Barack Obama's approach to his religion more because he makes it known that he is Christian, but openly respects people of all different religions.

I can't stand Mitt Romney because he is very discriminatory.

kleokriesel


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:05 am


Religion has been a very hot item in the current political scene and I have to say that this distresses me somewhat. Not because I think any real separation between religion and politics is possible... an absolute separation is impossible. I guess it's because I'm a religious minority that this irks me a bit. I'd rather see at least an omnidenominational approach from a Christian canidate, if not a more universalist one.
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