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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:24 am
(i'm posting this here since it pertains mostly to magick, but it has research-y elements to it. If it needs to be moved, so be it). This topic has to be one of the most oft-recurring ones in the occult community, but every time it's asked, you get some new (and potentially useful!) ideas out of it, so, here we present, something to excite everyone. There're a number of bands, songs (and albums) that cry out to me to be used in magick in some fashion -- Boards of Canada write songs that're a mix of electronica and (dark?) ambient that are pretty much made to be set to astral experience/meditation/etc. A good example of this is this YTMND that uses Boards of Canada's song "Everything You Do Is A Balloon". It's pretty trippy. Likewise, another band I always take the time to shamelessly promote is Broken Notes, who made a number of albums inspired by Akira Yamaoka, the soundsmeister behind Silent Hill's music. Their music's pretty damn spooky, and if ever you had to listen to something while doing some odd curse or hex, or you were summoning Cthulhu, that'd be an awesome choice to make. When I'm listening to music by those two bands, I always wonder if there's some way to use the songs in magick, perhaps even in an active fashion -- background music is all well and good, but what if you used the songs themselves as a component of a ritual? I'm not talking about having music help your meditation through tribal drumming or peaceful ambience, I'm talking about the music helping you curse someone, or summon a demon, or invoke a deity - those sorts of things. So far the only thing I've thought to use music in magick for was as a sort of "astral blockade" to stop yourself from being astrally detected/spied on/watched or whatever -- I thought listening to intrusive music like the recordings of the conet project would suffice. In any event, discuss the following, and add in your own two cents on things I haven't mentioned. [b]What do you think of using music in magick or psionics?[/b] [b]Have you done anything magickally noteworthy pertaining to music?[/b] [b]What songs or bands do you think have potential for being used magickally?[/b]
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:04 pm
What do you think of using music in magick or psionics?I like the idea. I composed the beginning of the MPRILC midi to convey my emotions, and it relaxes me quite a bit. Have you done anything magickally noteworthy pertaining to music?MPRILC Midi What songs or bands do you think have potential for being used magickally? Tool is freaking amazing. Lateralis could be used to open the senses I think.
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:05 am
i have discovered that musick in and of itself is a powerfull magick medium. i composed a song that, when i play it along with pushing energy into the sounds, causes a semi hypnotic state in which the truth is answered to questions you put into the song, *by adding small peices of song to the music, you create a question.*
its really amazing how powerfull music is. in fact, i use classical music by piano when casting ritualistic magicks, and i have found that it increases energy flow and allows for a higher output on your spell.
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:21 pm
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:34 pm
What do you think of using music in magick or psionics?
In Ceremonial Magick you have everything attributed to planets. Days, hours, foods, smells, colours, numbers etc. When doing a ritual involving a planetary energy, you try to include as many of those aspects as you can. Anyways, I've found that Holst who wrote the magnificent composition of "The Planets" works well there, and I've often had the Planetary themes in the background for doing Magick.
I think music is a great tool for magick. Actually several years ago I attended a workshop called The Magick in the Music. Music effects us, in real ways, and all of it can be used my our advantage. Loud music, with a rhythmic beat actually will synch your heart beat (or rather your heart will synch to it). It's hard to find but if you have songs with the beats getting progressively faster, or slower, you can use that to effect your heart rate, which can help with trance.
I'll skip over drums in Shamanism, cause that's a given.
Magick effects our emotions, and as such becomes a tool in it's own right, if we use it.
Not totally related, but I've found if I'm relaxed enough a playlist, a random/shuffle function, and a question, makes a fine oracle.
Have you done anything magickally noteworthy pertaining to music?
I make audio sigils, which are basically mantras set to familiar music. Other than using it as support though, I haven't done that much.
What songs or bands do you think have potential for being used magickally?
VNV Nation and Covenant, more for their philosophy and lyrics, and the headspace that invokes.
There is also a CD I adore, called Songs for the Children of Baphomet: A Musickal Tribute to the Life and Works of Aleister Crowley. It's a great CD, the artist is an OTO member, and it includes putting some of Crowley's poems and rituals to music, and even having Uncle Al's recitation of something (I forget what) over music. A cool album indeed.
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:34 am
If this counts, then it probably fits the definition of being magic most.
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:45 pm
What do you think of using music in magick or psionics? It makes sense to me. A lot of supernatural shenanigans require altered states of consciousness, which music is known to provide. Have you done anything magickally noteworthy pertaining to music? I always have Loreena McKennitt on when I do my energy healing for students at the end of a Qi Gong class. Lately I've achieved some rather awesome results (see the main forum's "Energy Work" thread if you need details). It actually all started when my daughter scratched up the cd I normally use (a different McKennitt album and song), and when I finally settled on another one that felt right, that's when the "holy crap" moments started occurring. I'm almost afraid *not* to have that track on now when I do healing. I'm 4 for 4 on three different people. What songs or bands do you think have potential for being used magickally? Have I mentioned Loreena McKennitt? Yeah, maybe once or twice. Combines the wailing of traditional Celtic keening songs with the mystic trance-like chanting of the Middle East. My personal favorite is the aptly named "Mystic's Dream", from her album The Mask and the Mirror.
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:58 pm
Rofl, it's true... Throw a K at the end of a word that ends with a C, and you end up with a new age trend. It's like using Z's instead of S's.
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:37 pm
divineseraph Rofl, it's true... Throw a K at the end of a word that ends with a C, and you end up with a new age trend. It's like using Z's instead of S's. You realise, of course, that the 'k' at the end of 'musick' was a throwback to using the 'k' at the end of 'magick', a simple play-on-words I was using to get across the message of "Music used in magick"? It seems pretty childish that you'd attempt to anatomise and debunk a system using the spelling of the title of the thread it was posted in, of all things. Don't be petty.
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:17 pm
Mitsh divineseraph Rofl, it's true... Throw a K at the end of a word that ends with a C, and you end up with a new age trend. It's like using Z's instead of S's. You realise, of course, that the 'k' at the end of 'musick' was a throwback to using the 'k' at the end of 'magick', a simple play-on-words I was using to get across the message of "Music used in magick"? It seems pretty childish that you'd attempt to anatomise and debunk a system using the spelling of the title of the thread it was posted in, of all things. Don't be petty. I wasn't trying to debunk it- But all of the new fads these days have to have a Z or a K thrown in there. Z for the rappers, K for the new age folk.
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:57 pm
divineseraph Mitsh divineseraph Rofl, it's true... Throw a K at the end of a word that ends with a C, and you end up with a new age trend. It's like using Z's instead of S's. You realise, of course, that the 'k' at the end of 'musick' was a throwback to using the 'k' at the end of 'magick', a simple play-on-words I was using to get across the message of "Music used in magick"? It seems pretty childish that you'd attempt to anatomise and debunk a system using the spelling of the title of the thread it was posted in, of all things. Don't be petty. I wasn't trying to debunk it- But all of the new fads these days have to have a Z or a K thrown in there. Z for the rappers, K for the new age folk. Ah, okay. My apologies, then.
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:34 pm
Music is a connection to the moments of its creation. If one is there at the performance of it, it helps connect to the energy and creative forces of its origin, I believe. In a record, played back, a connection to the same, but that can be more or less powerful depending on the music itself. The more clearly the music is heard, the more pieces of it heard, the stronger the connections.
*shrug* I have sung at times. There is a magic in that, too, and can be used or directed toward a particular cause, but my voice is lone and small. If I still took voice lessons and sang in a choir, that might be different, but I can't do much in terms of song or song-related magic. Dance is a more effective medium for me at this time.
...*reads back over other posts* What Yvaine said reminded me of something. The first time I tried Reiki, which was one of the most 'magical' experiences I've ever had, I heard music. I know that music, so I've tried to re-create the experience virtually every time I've tried Reiki since by replaying it in my head while I work. I've never truly succeeded, never experienced that same wonder again, and never had anywhere near the success in healing someone that I did that first time.
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:55 pm
@ ArynChris: Well said! What do you do with dancing?
@ mitsh: I saw what you did there. I giggled.
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:44 pm
Yvaine @ ArynChris: Well said! What do you do with dancing? @ mitsh: I saw what you did there. I giggled. *broad smile* I live. And that is enough magic for anyone, is it not?
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:13 am
What do you think of using music in magick or psionics? I think it's pretty obvious sound is a powerful aide when it comes to raising energy.. but I think that if you're going to do a ritual with music, you should make sure you prepare the right song ahead of time and set it on repeat or something.. If it goes into a song that puts you out of attunement with the energy you are looking to deal with, it can ruin things to a certain degree..
Have you done anything magickally noteworthy pertaining to music? I couldn't give you a specific situation, because I always try to use sound in some way and also I don't know what types of things would be considered magickally noteworthy.. I believe I have, though. ^__^ What songs or bands do you think have potential for being used magickally?
Cruxshadows.. SEE THEM LIVE. o.O Sorry.. I just adore the energy I get from being in the crowd, moving with the flow of energy. It is one of the most powerful experiences I know of.. Their musick is powerful. ^^
Umm.. So many.. Almost all of the music I listen to is perfect for magickal work. VNV Nation, Assemblage 23, De/Vision, Neuroticfish, Qntal, Faun, Enya, Dead Can Dance, Inkubus Sukkubus, Dreamside, Cusco, Claire Voyant. I'll be happy to give people a more complete list if they ask.. xD
Here's some genres to look into, though: Darkwave, Synthpop, ethereal, celtic, world, New Age, folk, instrumental, classical.
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