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 Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:49 pm
This is really, really weird.
I heard this announcement on the radio about two years ago: some guy was trying to make a machine that let you decide if a pregnant woman's baby would be heterosexual or homosexual.
So what do you think? When I first heard it, I went "WTF?"
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:41 pm
My thoughts: Messing with Mother Nature = very very bad. scream
There are just some things that really shouldn't be altered, a person's natural self being one of them. Parents should NOT be picking their child's appearance or, especially, orientation. I'm a fairly open-minded person, but this is one thing that I can't stand. I would be very upset if my parents told me my traits were chosen consciously by them. It's one of those messed up "playing God" things.
I believe altering genes is acceptable in medical situations (the same view I hold on plastic surgery), but should not be used to make "custom" children. I am open-minded when it comes to what Mother Nature has done herself, not what Man does in place of her. This is abuse of a science that should be used to cure diseases and heal injuries.
That kinda became a rant. Sorry. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:43 pm
A machine seems a little far fetch but there are people trying to create a drug or pill for the mother to take; because they believe that gays and lesbians are gay and lesbian because of a hormonal imbalance while in the womb.
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:11 pm
For some reason, my lengthy post did not go through. *sigh* Essentially, the most obvious problems here are that 1) they don't know what triggers homosexuality, and 2) they probably wouldn't be able to tamper with the trigger without A) huge amounts of funding, and B) highly advanced technology (perhaps drugs or even gene therapy). Of course, 3) is that some people just wouldn't want to change--wouldn't allow that change in themselves or their children, closely related 4) is that, given time, society might yet warm to homosexuality and consider the change unethical. Just as, for example, if the media were to announce tomorrow that they can turn black people white or vice-versa.
Sadly, the moneys going into the project are not being spent on more crucial research, such as those for finding cures for HIV/AIDS--the most recent and destructive pandemic at this time--or cancer--which hits one of every four Americans, to say nothing of our smoke-friendly European cousins.
Love and Vale,
-LD
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The Committee Staff Gaian
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:05 pm
Um... wow. That's pretty freaking crazy. o_O
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:09 pm
it probably is a sort of hormone thing to an extent...
I think that the probability of being gay is the same as the probabilities of being blonde or having clinical depression or sight problems
it's genetic yes, but it probably isn't trackable like how geneticists can determine the chances of a child being blonde because of it's parents genetic makeup.
you can't exactly determine the "gayness" of someones parents genetically, but then again we don't even know if it IS genetic in that way, do we?
can you see an anti-gay, anti abortion person using that machine and being torn as to whether to break which beliefe?
uugh. why can't we all just love each other?
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:27 pm
sweatdrop well its always interesting to see what geneticists are doing with their time, when they could be doing something more important.
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:39 pm
yeah... they COULD be trying to figure out the gene that makes people so ignorant and hateful.
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:23 am
SubHumanRemains yeah... they COULD be trying to figure out the gene that makes people so ignorant and hateful. Those are learned traits. Though there are some genetic tendencies for some to produce offspring with different IQ levels.
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:18 am
I'm pretty sure she was just being (apparently I can't spell fecicious, today), Kohki....
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:47 am
Even if there was a so-called "gay gene" turning it off, so to speak, would be practically impossible. Don't we have more important things to deal with in genetics like this anyway? What about people genetically predisposed to schizophrenia, parkinsons and alzheimer's?
Not to mention that there are so many other factors that are just as likely to "cause" and/or influence sexuality that something as simple as dealing with it in the womb would probably not be very effective, even if we assumed sexuality was as simple as liking one sex or the other and feeling one gender or the other.
This person is an idiot thinking that we could, with our current technology and understanding of things or even in the near future, even come close to something such as a sexuality machine.
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:03 pm
Leavaros I'm pretty sure she was just being (apparently I can't spell fecicious, today), Kohki.... facetious. and... well... yeah it is to an extent... but didn't ignorance and hate have to START somewhere? someone who is taught hate in their life can choose whether or not to act on what they learned, no? nature vs. nurture.
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:40 am
From a religious standpoint, whatever child God creates in my womb, I will love and except for WHOEVER they are to become. Gay or Straight, it doesn't matter to me.
I refuse to ever let "science" interfere with God's will on such a thing as this ludicrous idea of trying to change the "natural" state of events.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:39 pm
SaintChaos From a religious standpoint, whatever child God creates in my womb, I will love and except for WHOEVER they are to become. Gay or Straight, it doesn't matter to me. I refuse to ever let "science" interfere with God's will on such a thing as this ludicrous idea of trying to change the "natural" state of events. Hear, hear! I plan on raising my children to love a person for who they are "on the inside": personality, spirituality, etc. etc. One thing I hate more than anything but lies and broken promises is putting limits on love. If we were created by whatever power(s) that be, then who the hell are we to screw with that? I mean, really.
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:23 pm
Saivanima SaintChaos From a religious standpoint, whatever child God creates in my womb, I will love and except for WHOEVER they are to become. Gay or Straight, it doesn't matter to me. I refuse to ever let "science" interfere with God's will on such a thing as this ludicrous idea of trying to change the "natural" state of events. Hear, hear! I plan on raising my children to love a person for who they are "on the inside": personality, spirituality, etc. etc. One thing I hate more than anything but lies and broken promises is putting limits on love. If we were created by whatever power(s) that be, then who the hell are we to screw with that? I mean, really. exactly
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