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 Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:22 pm
It is a rather advanced move...
Also, because I doubt any of this has been brought up before, here goes.
Would it be possible for Aang to play with sound? Being merely vibrations of air, one would assume Aang could do just about anything with sound, as well.
Would an earthbender be able to bend glass as well? It is just melted sand.
And who gets to bend lava? Being all fiery, one could say a firebender, but really, lava is just more melted rock, so I think it would be more likely to be an earth bender. Or, it could only be in the realm of an avatar...
More thoughts, I have, but can't recall...
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:56 pm
Well, as for the metal thing, I think its only toph. kinda her signature thing, he can't feel vibrations like she can.
As for those combos like lava, remember The Drill? Both Katara and Toph were able to bend that wall sludge, it could be the same with lava.
Sound, i think is just getting way too deep into the elements stuff, maybe, but i don't really think its possible,
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:37 pm
Rosabelle334 Well, as for the metal thing, I think its only toph. kinda her signature thing, he can't feel vibrations like she can. As for those combos like lava, remember The Drill? Both Katara and Toph were able to bend that wall sludge, it could be the same with lava. Sound, i think is just getting way too deep into the elements stuff, maybe, but i don't really think its possible, That would be awesome to see a firebender and Toph working together to bend lava. biggrin As for Aang, I agree that bending metal is Toph's thing. Maybe he could in the Avatar state.
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:04 pm
hoshinoame Rosabelle334 Well, as for the metal thing, I think its only toph. kinda her signature thing, he can't feel vibrations like she can. As for those combos like lava, remember The Drill? Both Katara and Toph were able to bend that wall sludge, it could be the same with lava. Sound, i think is just getting way too deep into the elements stuff, maybe, but i don't really think its possible, That would be awesome to see a firebender and Toph working together to bend lava. biggrin As for Aang, I agree that bending metal is Toph's thing. Maybe he could in the Avatar state. Am I sensing a Toko fan? biggrin (Yes, to be honest, my memory holds a capacity of 0Gb and I can't remember if I knew this already or not sweatdrop )
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:39 am
Rosabelle334 Well, as for the metal thing, I think its only toph. kinda her signature thing, he can't feel vibrations like she can. As for those combos like lava, remember The Drill? Both Katara and Toph were able to bend that wall sludge, it could be the same with lava. Sound, i think is just getting way too deep into the elements stuff, maybe, but i don't really think its possible, There is a problem here. The slurry was a mixture of water and rock, making it possible for the two of them to bend. Lava is simply melted rock. I, personally, think it should be in the realm of an (advanced) earthbender. Same with glass. But, at the same time, both being in a liquid state, I feel that an earthbender's style is too rigid to properly bend either. It's like the difference in earthbending and waterbending. Earthbending is a rather rigid style, unsuited to anything in a liquid form. Waterbending, however, is a rather fluid form, but able to adjust to the rigidity of ice. Now, I'm not saying waterbenders should be able to bend either glass or lava. However, I do think it would take a rather experienced earthbender to do so, one knowledgeable in a waterbender's style. Which simply begs the question.... What is the likelihood of a dual-bender? I think, with training, Iroh may have gotten some basics down. He has the right mindset...
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:38 am
rpgamer987 Rosabelle334 Well, as for the metal thing, I think its only toph. kinda her signature thing, he can't feel vibrations like she can. As for those combos like lava, remember The Drill? Both Katara and Toph were able to bend that wall sludge, it could be the same with lava. Sound, i think is just getting way too deep into the elements stuff, maybe, but i don't really think its possible, There is a problem here. The slurry was a mixture of water and rock, making it possible for the two of them to bend. Lava is simply melted rock. I, personally, think it should be in the realm of an (advanced) earthbender. Same with glass. But, at the same time, both being in a liquid state, I feel that an earthbender's style is too rigid to properly bend either. It's like the difference in earthbending and waterbending. Earthbending is a rather rigid style, unsuited to anything in a liquid form. Waterbending, however, is a rather fluid form, but able to adjust to the rigidity of ice. Now, I'm not saying waterbenders should be able to bend either glass or lava. However, I do think it would take a rather experienced earthbender to do so, one knowledgeable in a waterbender's style. Which simply begs the question.... What is the likelihood of a dual-bender? I think, with training, Iroh may have gotten some basics down. He has the right mindset...I like that thought-- and I agree. We already know that Iroh knew basics of bending lightening, so why not others? He is probably the most open when it comes to other forms of bending, and if you looks at the way he fire-bends, sometimes the way he moves doesn't match most other firebenders. I think complete duel bending wouldn't be possible, but being able to use a little of another form is possible.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:11 am
  We become wiser in old age...
I think that each style of bending is influenced by another, as Iroh has stated in his lesson to Zuko about redirecting the lightning attack. It was influenced by water bending. However, I do not think there will ever be a duel bender, as it's difficult for benders already to master their own forms and styles. 3nodding
...as well as a bit kooky too!
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:38 am
I've made my opinion on this clear before.
1. Lava (as well we have seen ash) is strictly fire. It turns to rock eventually, but it is not necessarily earth, I think in Avatar it's more considered liquid fire if anything.
2. I thought I was the only one who thought that Air's sub-discipline would be sound, possibly. I completely agree with you, but I've been shot down that sound is too high a frequency or something. But I agree with you, that would be really ******** cool!
3. I suppose glass would be like metal, being an off shoot of earth itself, but we havent seen anything like that yet, so I guess we will have to wait and see.
Just to make it clear:
The sub discipline of water is Healing, not ice. You'd be surprised how many people come here going "l0lz o em gee ice r t3h sub ov watah!!!1!!!!1one!!!11" ice is simply a different form of water, much like steam, not to mention every waterbender can bend ice. The subs are things that not many can do, such as bending lightning for firebenders, and bending sand for earthbenders, not all of them can do it. Ice is merely the solid form of water, as steam is the gas.
The subs are as follows:
Water- Healing
Fire- Lightning
Earth- Sand
Air- ? (I think it'll be sound or something cool like that)
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[Hollow Point] Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:22 pm
[Hollow Point] I've made my opinion on this clear before. 1. Lava (as well we have seen ash) is strictly fire. It turns to rock eventually, but it is not necessarily earth, I think in Avatar it's more considered liquid fire if anything. 2. I thought I was the only one who thought that Air's sub-discipline would be sound, possibly. I completely agree with you, but I've been shot down that sound is too high a frequency or something. But I agree with you, that would be really ******** cool! 3. I suppose glass would be like metal, being an off shoot of earth itself, but we havent seen anything like that yet, so I guess we will have to wait and see. Just to make it clear: The sub discipline of water is Healing, not ice. You'd be surprised how many people come here going "l0lz o em gee ice r t3h sub ov watah!!!1!!!!1one!!!11" ice is simply a different form of water, much like steam, not to mention every waterbender can bend ice. The subs are things that not many can do, such as bending lightning for firebenders, and bending sand for earthbenders, not all of them can do it. Ice is merely the solid form of water, as steam is the gas. The subs are as follows: Water- Healing Fire- Lightning Earth- Sand Air- ? (I think it'll be sound or something cool like that) earth also has metal, but as we've seen it's basically toph's thing.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:26 pm
Rosabelle334 [Hollow Point] I've made my opinion on this clear before. 1. Lava (as well we have seen ash) is strictly fire. It turns to rock eventually, but it is not necessarily earth, I think in Avatar it's more considered liquid fire if anything. 2. I thought I was the only one who thought that Air's sub-discipline would be sound, possibly. I completely agree with you, but I've been shot down that sound is too high a frequency or something. But I agree with you, that would be really ******** cool! 3. I suppose glass would be like metal, being an off shoot of earth itself, but we havent seen anything like that yet, so I guess we will have to wait and see. Just to make it clear: The sub discipline of water is Healing, not ice. You'd be surprised how many people come here going "l0lz o em gee ice r t3h sub ov watah!!!1!!!!1one!!!11" ice is simply a different form of water, much like steam, not to mention every waterbender can bend ice. The subs are things that not many can do, such as bending lightning for firebenders, and bending sand for earthbenders, not all of them can do it. Ice is merely the solid form of water, as steam is the gas. The subs are as follows: Water- Healing Fire- Lightning Earth- Sand Air- ? (I think it'll be sound or something cool like that) earth also has metal, but as we've seen it's basically toph's thing. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Toph is the one and only. Except for MAYBE Bumi
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[Hollow Point] Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:27 pm
[Hollow Point] Rosabelle334 [Hollow Point] I've made my opinion on this clear before. 1. Lava (as well we have seen ash) is strictly fire. It turns to rock eventually, but it is not necessarily earth, I think in Avatar it's more considered liquid fire if anything. 2. I thought I was the only one who thought that Air's sub-discipline would be sound, possibly. I completely agree with you, but I've been shot down that sound is too high a frequency or something. But I agree with you, that would be really ******** cool! 3. I suppose glass would be like metal, being an off shoot of earth itself, but we havent seen anything like that yet, so I guess we will have to wait and see. Just to make it clear: The sub discipline of water is Healing, not ice. You'd be surprised how many people come here going "l0lz o em gee ice r t3h sub ov watah!!!1!!!!1one!!!11" ice is simply a different form of water, much like steam, not to mention every waterbender can bend ice. The subs are things that not many can do, such as bending lightning for firebenders, and bending sand for earthbenders, not all of them can do it. Ice is merely the solid form of water, as steam is the gas. The subs are as follows: Water- Healing Fire- Lightning Earth- Sand Air- ? (I think it'll be sound or something cool like that) earth also has metal, but as we've seen it's basically toph's thing. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Toph is the one and only. Except for MAYBE Bumi bumi would be cool. what ever happened to him? is he still in omashu?
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:03 pm
[Hollow Point] I've made my opinion on this clear before. 1. Lava (as well we have seen ash) is strictly fire. It turns to rock eventually, but it is not necessarily earth, I think in Avatar it's more considered liquid fire if anything. 2. I thought I was the only one who thought that Air's sub-discipline would be sound, possibly. I completely agree with you, but I've been shot down that sound is too high a frequency or something. But I agree with you, that would be really ******** cool! 3. I suppose glass would be like metal, being an off shoot of earth itself, but we havent seen anything like that yet, so I guess we will have to wait and see.Just to make it clear: The sub discipline of water is Healing, not ice. You'd be surprised how many people come here going "l0lz o em gee ice r t3h sub ov watah!!!1!!!!1one!!!11" ice is simply a different form of water, much like steam, not to mention every waterbender can bend ice. The subs are things that not many can do, such as bending lightning for firebenders, and bending sand for earthbenders, not all of them can do it. Ice is merely the solid form of water, as steam is the gas. The subs are as follows: Water- Healing Fire- Lightning Earth- Sand Air- ? (I think it'll be sound or something cool like that) 1. Toph can see the impurities in metals, so she bends the rock in the metal, so, unless there is a grain of sand in the glass, then she/he can bend it
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:01 pm
Naw, Toph is probably the only one who can bend metal, she is considered the greatest earth bender in the world, is she not? But I think Aang (In his avatar state) would have the ability to bend Lava, but nothing that Toph could do
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:02 pm
Metal? I don't think so. It's Toph's signature move. Maybe in the Avatar state, but really, I don't think Roku was able to bend metal. Why should Aang?
Hasn't Aang done that before? Like used bending to listen to something in a different room? Maybe I'm just forgetting things.
Maybe they could bend glass. It doesn't really matter though, does it? They're not near a ton of glass that often.
In the Avatar short thing, Zuko was able to bend lava. So, I'd say Firebenders. But maybe Earth and Water could do it too, since it's sort of a liquid, and as you said, melted rock.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:25 pm
Karabushi Sushi Naw, Toph is probably the only one who can bend metal, she is considered the greatest earth bender in the world, is she not? But I think Aang (In his avatar state) would have the ability to bend Lava, but nothing that Toph could do So wait, we've seen the skills of every single earthbender now? You can't claim one move is signature of only one person, if the ability simply hasn't been shown in anyone else. There's no telling what others can do, that we haven't seen. And I don't see how sand could differ from earth. I haven't seen an earthbender yet unable to bend sand. I've never thought of them as "sub-divisions," just advanced moves. Ones, I believe, any bender could accomplish, with proper training. Some seem more advanced than others, such as metal. Some, such as healing, may simply be inherent to the user... so Idunno. Call it what you will, really. On the matter of water/ice being the same, so is fire and lightning. wink They are both plasma forms, releasing energy in the form of heat and light.
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