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 Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:26 am
Its always really hard to restrain myself when I find things that are offense to people I know, or myself.
At the state fair today and of course, there's a booth of two women and a small baby about 'heterosexual marriage only' stuff.
THANK GOODNESS I know that there has been a P-flag booth at the fair longer than this booth has ever been around. I think this is the only time I've seen it.
But, it was hard not to stop and make a point.
Really, I wanted to say this.
"I have a question, are you religious?"
(Assuming from the booth, they were all Christians and would have said yes.)
"Then how does it feel to be sining? As I recall God said to 'Love thy brother'. Yet, you have a booth standing /HERE/ of all places, witch is a VERY public place, saying that you hate your "brother".
Just because one has a different meaning of love than your personal idea, doesn't mean that its wrong. Do you love your baby daughter? Of course you do. But do you wish to raise her in a setting that shows hatred is okay? Your idea that you're trying to spread would be the same if I came over saying that it's disgusting that you love your daughter.
Love is love. Thats just it. You can't decide not to love your family, just as one cannot decide to love at all. Gender doesn't play a role in love. The job of two genders existing is merely for reproduction to ensure a future for man kind."
Though, I restrained myself not to say this to her. As much as I would love for people to agree on this, I didn't want to have a reason to be hated by someone. Or get kicked out of the fair.
What do you all think about this?
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:27 am
It all goes back to education. Let's face it: people who aren't brainwashed by religion and who were raised around homosexuals are not homophobic. It's simple, really.
It's like Melissa Etheridge said on the Visible Vote '08. Kids will ask, "Why does that kid have two mommies?" and she would reply, "Well, some people have two mommies, some have two daddies, some have one mommy and one daddy." And the children will go, "Okay." and walk off. Because it makes perfect sense.
Would you saying anything really do anything? Are they set in their ways? Can they change?
Is a bad peace worse than war?
As for me, I would have said something. I would have started a discussion, and left when it turned into an argument. But that's me. You have to decide for yourself what is the level something must escalate to before you try to change it. For me, any level of homophobia outside of "That's so gay" (I've given up on that one) is enough to make me pull out the rainbow banner, so to speak.
Love and Vale,
-LD
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:04 am
Shmoo-Chan Really, I wanted to say this.
"I have a question, are you religious?"
"Then how does it feel to be sining? As I recall God said to 'Love thy brother'. Yet, you have a booth standing /HERE/ of all places, witch is a VERY public place, saying that you hate your "brother".
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:17 pm
Shmoo-Chan Its always really hard to restrain myself when I find things that are offense to people I know, or myself.
At the state fair today and of course, there's a booth of two women and a small baby about 'heterosexual marriage only' stuff.
THANK GOODNESS I know that there has been a P-flag booth at the fair longer than this booth has ever been around. I think this is the only time I've seen it.
But, it was hard not to stop and make a point.
Really, I wanted to say this.
"I have a question, are you religious?"
(Assuming from the booth, they were all Christians and would have said yes.)
"Then how does it feel to be sining? As I recall God said to 'Love thy brother'. Yet, you have a booth standing /HERE/ of all places, witch is a VERY public place, saying that you hate your "brother".
Just because one has a different meaning of love than your personal idea, doesn't mean that its wrong. Do you love your baby daughter? Of course you do. But do you wish to raise her in a setting that shows hatred is okay? Your idea that you're trying to spread would be the same if I came over saying that it's disgusting that you love your daughter.
Love is love. Thats just it. You can't decide not to love your family, just as one cannot decide to love at all. Gender doesn't play a role in love. The job of two genders existing is merely for reproduction to ensure a future for man kind."
Though, I restrained myself not to say this to her. As much as I would love for people to agree on this, I didn't want to have a reason to be hated by someone. Or get kicked out of the fair.
What do you all think about this? Although everyone has their own beliefs and they have every right to have a booth there as anyone else, I also agree with you're approach idea. But instead if you ever truly plan on approaching someone on the matter, just merely ask a simple question in an innocent way and ask them this: "Hi! Nice to meet you! Could you show me some verses that state that its okay to 'hate thy neighbor and to promote that hatred to others' ?" And if they come back at you with the fact that being gay is sinning say back to them a famous verse "anyone who is without sin, cast the first stone" you'd be surprised what you can retort in a civil manner back at ignorant christians with their own bible.
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:27 pm
SaintChaos Shmoo-Chan Its always really hard to restrain myself when I find things that are offense to people I know, or myself.
At the state fair today and of course, there's a booth of two women and a small baby about 'heterosexual marriage only' stuff.
THANK GOODNESS I know that there has been a P-flag booth at the fair longer than this booth has ever been around. I think this is the only time I've seen it.
But, it was hard not to stop and make a point.
Really, I wanted to say this.
"I have a question, are you religious?"
(Assuming from the booth, they were all Christians and would have said yes.)
"Then how does it feel to be sining? As I recall God said to 'Love thy brother'. Yet, you have a booth standing /HERE/ of all places, witch is a VERY public place, saying that you hate your "brother".
Just because one has a different meaning of love than your personal idea, doesn't mean that its wrong. Do you love your baby daughter? Of course you do. But do you wish to raise her in a setting that shows hatred is okay? Your idea that you're trying to spread would be the same if I came over saying that it's disgusting that you love your daughter.
Love is love. Thats just it. You can't decide not to love your family, just as one cannot decide to love at all. Gender doesn't play a role in love. The job of two genders existing is merely for reproduction to ensure a future for man kind."
Though, I restrained myself not to say this to her. As much as I would love for people to agree on this, I didn't want to have a reason to be hated by someone. Or get kicked out of the fair.
What do you all think about this? Although everyone has their own beliefs and they have every right to have a booth there as anyone else, I also agree with you're approach idea. But instead if you ever truly plan on approaching someone on the matter, just merely ask a simple question in an innocent way and ask them this: "Hi! Nice to meet you! Could you show me some verses that state that its okay to 'hate thy neighbor and to promote that hatred to others' ?" And if they come back at you with the fact that being gay is sinning say back to them a famous verse "anyone who is without sin, cast the first stone" you'd be surprised what you can retort in a civil manner back at ignorant christians with their own bible. I am a completely civil person, but it just really made me mad because she tried to get my friend's mom's attation and acted like I didn't have a brain or an oppion when I looked at her.
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:02 pm
Shmoo-Chan SaintChaos Shmoo-Chan Its always really hard to restrain myself when I find things that are offense to people I know, or myself.
At the state fair today and of course, there's a booth of two women and a small baby about 'heterosexual marriage only' stuff.
THANK GOODNESS I know that there has been a P-flag booth at the fair longer than this booth has ever been around. I think this is the only time I've seen it.
But, it was hard not to stop and make a point.
Really, I wanted to say this.
"I have a question, are you religious?"
(Assuming from the booth, they were all Christians and would have said yes.)
"Then how does it feel to be sining? As I recall God said to 'Love thy brother'. Yet, you have a booth standing /HERE/ of all places, witch is a VERY public place, saying that you hate your "brother".
Just because one has a different meaning of love than your personal idea, doesn't mean that its wrong. Do you love your baby daughter? Of course you do. But do you wish to raise her in a setting that shows hatred is okay? Your idea that you're trying to spread would be the same if I came over saying that it's disgusting that you love your daughter.
Love is love. Thats just it. You can't decide not to love your family, just as one cannot decide to love at all. Gender doesn't play a role in love. The job of two genders existing is merely for reproduction to ensure a future for man kind."
Though, I restrained myself not to say this to her. As much as I would love for people to agree on this, I didn't want to have a reason to be hated by someone. Or get kicked out of the fair.
What do you all think about this? Although everyone has their own beliefs and they have every right to have a booth there as anyone else, I also agree with you're approach idea. But instead if you ever truly plan on approaching someone on the matter, just merely ask a simple question in an innocent way and ask them this: "Hi! Nice to meet you! Could you show me some verses that state that its okay to 'hate thy neighbor and to promote that hatred to others' ?" And if they come back at you with the fact that being gay is sinning say back to them a famous verse "anyone who is without sin, cast the first stone" you'd be surprised what you can retort in a civil manner back at ignorant christians with their own bible. I am a completely civil person, but it just really made me mad because she tried to get my friend's mom's attation and acted like I didn't have a brain or an oppion when I looked at her. completely understandable
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:23 am
I would've ignored them unless they tried to call attention to them, then I'd make the point that marriage was originally used as a political tool rather than a validation of one's relationship status, and that most marriages were arranged and the two[or more] people had no say in it whatsoever. Marriage has only been about love for the past 100-200 years, and there are plenty of heterosexual couples that get married solely for tax purposes that otherwise don't give a s**t about the other. Marriage is more of a tool than an expression of dedication to one's partner. Homophobes use current marriage laws to feel superior to gays because they have access to more rights, and tax breaks. The real purpose of pushing for gay marriage legalization, to me, is tearing down the class divide between the allowed and the disadvantaged, marriage-wise.
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:19 am
Personally, I'd have said something. And when they tried to kick me out of the fair, I'd have asked why, and when they said disruption, I'd have asked them why it wasn't okay for you to pose such questions of them. Mind you, you'd have to remain completely curious, and not rude for this to work. Just so no one had anything but curiosity on you. wink But people like that have always angered me as well. Hence why I'd have said something.
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:06 pm
SaintChaos Shmoo-Chan Its always really hard to restrain myself when I find things that are offense to people I know, or myself.
At the state fair today and of course, there's a booth of two women and a small baby about 'heterosexual marriage only' stuff.
THANK GOODNESS I know that there has been a P-flag booth at the fair longer than this booth has ever been around. I think this is the only time I've seen it.
But, it was hard not to stop and make a point.
Really, I wanted to say this.
"I have a question, are you religious?"
(Assuming from the booth, they were all Christians and would have said yes.)
"Then how does it feel to be sining? As I recall God said to 'Love thy brother'. Yet, you have a booth standing /HERE/ of all places, witch is a VERY public place, saying that you hate your "brother".
Just because one has a different meaning of love than your personal idea, doesn't mean that its wrong. Do you love your baby daughter? Of course you do. But do you wish to raise her in a setting that shows hatred is okay? Your idea that you're trying to spread would be the same if I came over saying that it's disgusting that you love your daughter.
Love is love. Thats just it. You can't decide not to love your family, just as one cannot decide to love at all. Gender doesn't play a role in love. The job of two genders existing is merely for reproduction to ensure a future for man kind."
Though, I restrained myself not to say this to her. As much as I would love for people to agree on this, I didn't want to have a reason to be hated by someone. Or get kicked out of the fair.
What do you all think about this? Although everyone has their own beliefs and they have every right to have a booth there as anyone else, I also agree with you're approach idea. But instead if you ever truly plan on approaching someone on the matter, just merely ask a simple question in an innocent way and ask them this: "Hi! Nice to meet you! Could you show me some verses that state that its okay to 'hate thy neighbor and to promote that hatred to others' ?" And if they come back at you with the fact that being gay is sinning say back to them a famous verse "anyone who is without sin, cast the first stone" you'd be surprised what you can retort in a civil manner back at ignorant christians with their own bible. Using the bible itself to counter bible thumpers like that is pretty fun. I like that idea using "whosoever is without sin, cast the first stone"; it's very clever, I'll keep that in my arsenal. Being an atheist, I also have one in my back pocket as a comeback to "He who denies God is a fool" or something to that effect. I counter with the bible verse "But whosoever say "thy fool" is in danger of hellfire". It's so much fun what with their facial expressions after that! heh! but yes, if I see a booth like that, I usually just glare at them so they see me and walk away in a huff, for not having anything clever to say off the top of my head. If it's someone talking, I'll definitely say something. I love a debate. And everyone here who has posted has had wise things to say. You all usually do. I heart this guild! *ahem* redface
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