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KibaB
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:02 pm


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Ok, so, Lanzer just pretty much confirmed Werewolves to me. First animal skins, then the "Vampire's Enemy" comment, and then a comment to "Wait and See" for werewolves. "Wait and see" almost always means yes. I'm taking it as a yes. I'm making 5 mules, and a 6th one for Vampire skins.

Anyway, I was making a comment about why they may be trying to surprise us with it. You know, how they did with the Grunnies. (There was very little foreshadowing related to X releasing a bunch of Grunnies. XD Except maybe at a con or something,I don't know. )

I was like, "Vampire Coven, Vampire Von Helsons, Vampire war, SURPRISE! IAN'S A WEREWOLF!"

But then... I thought about it, and the more I did, the more I realized...

What if Ian really is a werewolf?
Think about it.

First of all, Ian was perfectly healthy until getting hit by that sniper's shot. Afterwards he was rather sickly. Now, Edmund stated that "They knew the shot wouldn't kill Ian."

Now, how would they know that? My first guess was that "Ian is a Vampire, and the shot did kill him, he just revived himself."
However, he's been seen in daylight, and he obviously doesn't have the thirst for human blood.

Now, here's why Ian could be a werewolf.

When Ian was shot, the bullet was clearly not silver, it was an ordinary bullet.
Now, Zhivago has extraordinary aim, under any circumstances. But how can you be 100 percent sure a shot wouldn't kill someone, especially one in the chest?
Simple, if you know their body would resist it.

Here is my theory.

Ian is a Von Helson, however unlike the majority of the Von Helsons, Ian's curse is not Vamprism, but rather Lycanthropy (Werewolfism). Like most of the Von Helsons however, his curse remained dormant until a trigger was placed. For most Von Helsons, it was death. But for a werewolf, instead of simply dieing and rising again, his body started to kick start in a fight for survival. The shot in the chest activated his dormant lycanthropy, allowing him to survive the shot from the normal bullet. However, he was now a Werewolf, and therefore could not return to his store. Gambino and Edmund, for some unknown reason (Pity? Common Enemy? Ian's Knowledge of the strange pills?) offer him assistance. Lycanthropy Suppressant Treatment (LST), as well as protection. As long as Ian underwent treatment, he would not transform, though he would be rather sickly as his body attempted to transform but failed.
(This explains why he was a Human like the others on the Full Moon, but "Looked Terrible.")
On Halloween, he will miss a treatment (accidentally, or possibly on purpose as to combat the vampires effectively) and transform into...

IAN VON HELSON, WEREWOLF KING. (Dramatic music)
Blah blah blah, stuff happens, we get skins, the end.

What support do we have for this?

1.) Louie is the Heir to the Vampire Coven. He has to kill is brother (Ian, most likely). Now, if Ian was a Vonpire, and the trigger was death, then killing the obviously still mortal Ian would just make him a more dangerous rival.
However, if Ian was heir to a different throne, one such as the king of Werewolves, then it would be in the Vonpire's best interests to kill him.

2.) The Prophecy (via my interpretation) warns of supernatural war between the Vampires and their Rivals.
Here's how it goes.
A shining flash will consume the world, signaling the return of the Von Helsons greatest rivals. (Gambino returns with the "White Eclipse". Also, this is around the time where Ian's nearly recovered, meaning his Lycanthropy is nearly fully awakened.)
The Heir to the Coven will be sent out to destroy the threat to the Vampires, but his attentions will be drawn to a beautiful mortal woman(Moria), making him doubt his mission, and his position as heir to the Vonpire Coven. (Beware the Flower of the Night. Flower of the Night can mean either the Black Orchids, or a Beautiful Woman met at night).
The mortal Woman will be the long time friend of the enemy, though she will not know of his true nature. She will try to prevent the Heir from murdering his brother.
The last part has two interpretations.
He will have to decide whether to follow his role as the Heir to the Vonpire's and murder his brother, leaving his lover behind.
Or, he will choose to spare his brother. However, if he does, the war between Vampires and Werewolves will begin, forcing him to choose to fight with his brethren, or protect his mortal lover (and possibly the rest of Gaia).

Therefore, killing Ian is meant to prevent the Vonpires Rivals gaining power. For if the Werewolf King awoke, the Vonpire Coven would surely fall.
Ian is the only candidate for being the werewolf king, as he's the target the Vonpires want to kill.

So, does this make any sense to you at all? I lost my train of thought halfway through.
Ian would make a cool werewolf king though. XD Interesting Contrast to his normal self.
But here's the clincher, Ian may not even know he's a Werewolf, let alone one spoken of in prophecy. You see, while as a Werewolf, he'd be very powerful, and dangerous. Not just to Vonpires, but to Gaians. This could scare Gambino and Edmund, who give him the treatment under false pretenses (to help him recover from his attack, etc.)

Ian may also be frighted by the prospect of using his humanity. Regardless, he will continue to under go LST until Halloween, which is the day that he will miss one for some reason, and transform.

Regardless, it would be a fun event. XD


Wolfram Lee Ysud
The likely trigger of Ian's becoming "weaker" was very likely his being shot and the "white eclipse" that was the energy blast caused by the forced separation of Gino/Gambino.

If anyone remembers watching Dragon Ball Z, Vegeta launched an energy ball that recreated the light and aura that emanates from a full moon.

It is quite likely that the energy blast had the EXACT SAME EFFECT.



To go on another branch, there is a very good chance that LabtechX is in fact siding with the Von Helsons or is a Von Helson himself. Gi-Bino was a superpower in his own right and WOULD have killed Ian ... but X forced the two to separate and lose their power.

If Cube's deduction is right and Louie has to kill Ian, then it is possibly confirmed that LabtechX is a Von Helson or one of their servants.

EDIT - And what if X has an "anti-treatment"?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:15 pm


There some good poits made in there. But I really hop Ian is one of us not a werewolf. I also read one that some people think one of the Von Helsing sister is a Werewolf and the other a Vampire. stare I don't know about that one....its a maybe in my book.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:54 pm


I hate werewolves.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:55 am


I think that theory sounds pretty conspiratory. Interesting. Though it only adds to the rumor that Ian is a Von Helson.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:04 am


It seems that most all the rumors are turning towards Ian and Louie and everyone but the sisters. I wonder why that is?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:27 am


I hate it when people post completely unfounded theories as fact.

That doesn't mean you, Kiba, but the people you quoted.

1) Zhivago (or whoever the sniper is) could very well know that his shot wouldn't kill Ian, even if Ian isn't anything supernatural. He just needs to be a good sniper. If you miss vital organs and the victim is treated in a hospital (like Ian was) he'll survive.

2) Werevolves are NOT natural enemies of vampires. Just because a crappy movie (i.e. Underworld) says so doesn't make it fact. There is no mention of this anywhere in vampire lore or most vampire media. The only two sources for this idiocy I can think of are Underworld and Vampire: The Masquerade.

3) "Flower of the Night can mean either the Black Orchids, or a Beautiful Woman met at night" Where the hell did he get that?

4) There is no reason to suspect that the Gino/Johnny separation explosion has anything to do with the White Eclipse bit. Any comparisons to DBZ are retarded and do not prove anything.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:23 pm


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I hate werewolves.

Hey now.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:05 pm


Solarn
I hate it when people post completely unfounded theories as fact.

That doesn't mean you, Kiba, but the people you quoted.

1) Zhivago (or whoever the sniper is) could very well know that his shot wouldn't kill Ian, even if Ian isn't anything supernatural. He just needs to be a good sniper. If you miss vital organs and the victim is treated in a hospital (like Ian was) he'll survive.

2) Werevolves are NOT natural enemies of vampires. Just because a crappy movie (i.e. Underworld) says so doesn't make it fact. There is no mention of this anywhere in vampire lore or most vampire media. The only two sources for this idiocy I can think of are Underworld and Vampire: The Masquerade.

3) "Flower of the Night can mean either the Black Orchids, or a Beautiful Woman met at night" Where the hell did he get that?

4) There is no reason to suspect that the Gino/Johnny separation explosion has anything to do with the White Eclipse bit. Any comparisons to DBZ are retarded and do not prove anything.



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:22 pm


Solarn


1) Zhivago (or whoever the sniper is) could very well know that his shot wouldn't kill Ian, even if Ian isn't anything supernatural. He just needs to be a good sniper. If you miss vital organs and the victim is treated in a hospital (like Ian was) he'll survive.


That's what I keep saying! I can't word like that, though xD I think people are looking way too much into "They knew the bullet wouldn't kill him". That just shows how powerful "they" are.

Of course, I could be wrong xp
PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:25 am


Solarn
I hate it when people post completely unfounded theories as fact.

That doesn't mean you, Kiba, but the people you quoted.

1) Zhivago (or whoever the sniper is) could very well know that his shot wouldn't kill Ian, even if Ian isn't anything supernatural. He just needs to be a good sniper. If you miss vital organs and the victim is treated in a hospital (like Ian was) he'll survive.

2) Werevolves are NOT natural enemies of vampires. Just because a crappy movie (i.e. Underworld) says so doesn't make it fact. There is no mention of this anywhere in vampire lore or most vampire media. The only two sources for this idiocy I can think of are Underworld and Vampire: The Masquerade.

3) "Flower of the Night can mean either the Black Orchids, or a Beautiful Woman met at night" Where the hell did he get that?

4) There is no reason to suspect that the Gino/Johnny separation explosion has anything to do with the White Eclipse bit. Any comparisons to DBZ are retarded and do not prove anything.


Since when are Gaia based events ever based on fact? Or said theories of Gaia events based on fact?

Most (if not all) Gaian events from '04 and on have been based on popular culture of the time. Crappy or not, Underworld, Masquerade, and other of the like are very popular. So the theorey itself makes sense, based on entertainment that is popular right now. As does the DBZ references (event though it is/was a very very dumb show).

As far as the flower references; again its makes sense. Flower of the Night could very easily be the Black Orchids either the flower itself (self explanatory) and/or the Edmund followers that have named the Order after the Orchid. As far as it being a woman, I'm too lazy to provide links, but many a poems penned have referred to women being flowers especially roses with thorns. I find it rather romantic that a woman can be called a flower, orchid or no.

Good sniper or not, Zhivago has "never" missed. Out of the few times we've seen him around Gaia, he's always hit his target. Gambino himself would be dead had it not been for the emergence of Gi-bino. That in and of itself lends to the credibility of the theory that there was something more going on with the attempted hit rather than just a missed bullet.

Pushing all of that aside, this is merely someone's theories on something Lanzer has spoken to them about. Excitment about this event has led to a lot (incluidng our guild if I'm not mistaken). So based on fact or not, they are actually very well thought out are very plausible.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:43 am


But it's a Gaia Event!
They wouldn't go this far into the plot.
They wouldn't think so far ahead.
It's GAIA.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:25 am


Tori-Wells
But it's a Gaia Event!
They wouldn't go this far into the plot.
They wouldn't think so far ahead.
It's GAIA.

Word.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:53 pm


Hmm.. I don't know about this, but the "Ian is Louie's Brother" theory seems to become more likely each second that passes.

And I was against it. Damn. xp
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:26 am


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I hate it when people post completely unfounded theories as fact.

That doesn't mean you, Kiba, but the people you quoted.

1) Zhivago (or whoever the sniper is) could very well know that his shot wouldn't kill Ian, even if Ian isn't anything supernatural. He just needs to be a good sniper. If you miss vital organs and the victim is treated in a hospital (like Ian was) he'll survive.

2) Werevolves are NOT natural enemies of vampires. Just because a crappy movie (i.e. Underworld) says so doesn't make it fact. There is no mention of this anywhere in vampire lore or most vampire media. The only two sources for this idiocy I can think of are Underworld and Vampire: The Masquerade.

3) "Flower of the Night can mean either the Black Orchids, or a Beautiful Woman met at night" Where the hell did he get that?

4) There is no reason to suspect that the Gino/Johnny separation explosion has anything to do with the White Eclipse bit. Any comparisons to DBZ are retarded and do not prove anything.


Since when are Gaia based events ever based on fact? Or said theories of Gaia events based on fact?

Never, but I still greatly dislike theories that try to pass themselves off as fact or that are so out there they don't connect to what we know about the plot at all.

Hikari Aijuntani
Most (if not all) Gaian events from '04 and on have been based on popular culture of the time. Crappy or not, Underworld, Masquerade, and other of the like are very popular. So the theorey itself makes sense, based on entertainment that is popular right now. As does the DBZ references (event though it is/was a very very dumb show).

The Gaian staff have NEVER done references that obscure. If they reference something, they make it clear. Almost nobody (except for that theorist, obviously) would think of that scene in DBZ if a "White Eclipse" is mentioned. Plus, we don't know if the phrase refers to something with the opposite effect of an eclipse or if werewolves are involved at all. And Underworld was somewhat of a flop and Masquerade is only loved by a very clearly identifiable (if rather large) minority.

Hikari Aijuntani
As far as the flower references; again its makes sense. Flower of the Night could very easily be the Black Orchids either the flower itself (self explanatory) and/or the Edmund followers that have named the Order after the Orchid. As far as it being a woman, I'm too lazy to provide links, but many a poems penned have referred to women being flowers especially roses with thorns. I find it rather romantic that a woman can be called a flower, orchid or no.

I don't have any problem with the Flower of the Night-Black Orchid connection. It seems plausible. It was the other one I found ridiculous. And it's a prophecy, not a poem.

Hikari Aijuntani
Good sniper or not, Zhivago has "never" missed. Out of the few times we've seen him around Gaia, he's always hit his target. Gambino himself would be dead had it not been for the emergence of Gi-bino. That in and of itself lends to the credibility of the theory that there was something more going on with the attempted hit rather than just a missed bullet.

But it's not about missing! It's about NOT KILLING HIM ON PURPOSE! PURPOSEFULLY MISSING WITH THE BULLET! I said so clearly!

Hikari Aijuntani
Pushing all of that aside, this is merely someone's theories on something Lanzer has spoken to them about. Excitment about this event has led to a lot (incluidng our guild if I'm not mistaken). So based on fact or not, they are actually very well thought out are very plausible.

No they aren't. They are incoherent and at points have no connection to what we know already. I could say that the White Eclipse will actually be a (non-Zurg) spaceship painted white which holds space-vampires that will invade Gaia and Vlad and his family are members of that species and it would be just as well thought out as the theory about a DBZ connection.

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