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Since I'm still fairly new to the guild, I have NO IDEA who's christian and who's not, but the point of my thread here is to be a smoothing agent for the crap I know gays have had thrown at them from Christians. Yes I'm christian and here's my what I'm going to say.

The most common thing I've seen from Christians, thrown at gays is that if you're gay you automatically go to hell for being gay.

That is complete and utter bull s**t! I've studied one of the most accurate versions of the bible and still do and there is NOTHING.....I repeat NOTHING in the bible that states you'll go to hell.

So please for the love of god or whatever you believe in, don't listen to the hurtful words of idiots, imbeciles, or arrogant ignorant bastards who have nothing better to do but criticize and rant and yell over NOTHING.

I thought I'd throw that out there and get that straight here and now, so even if any of you in here DON'T believe in god, but believe in maybe a good a bad after life, you WON'T GO TO HELL for being gay.

If there's one thing I can relate with, is typical stereotypes and it infuriates me to see freaking IDIOTS out there bashing you guys for just being who you are.

SCREW THEM! Please don't listen to them, its just a bunch of freaking lies. And I dare ANY christian who disagrees with me to post verses that contradict what I say.

heart heart heart heart heart heart heart Love to all.

Thank You

lol well actually im very glad someone responded because i was thinking ".....maybe it came off a bit strong...dramatic and offensive somehow?" cuz....i don't know i hate idiots and biggots and for once i want to represent what the christians SHOULD be representing.

Being angry and hating are two different things. I'm sure, Leav, that you've said that you hated someone at one point of your life. Of course, not really meaning it. Think about it, this girl is Christian. Why in hell would she truly hate someone?

Take a chill pill. Really.

And welcome to the guild Chaos. I'm glad to have some sensible religious people around. (hugs)

for as often as i use the word hate, i actually never truly hated someone before. it takes a lot to provoke me, however like everyone else there is always that one button that takes just one time to press it and the person will explode.

but like i said, the point of my thread is not to show my great irritant with idiots but rather to be a smoothing agent that i have yet to see other people to do. for me i get very passionate about these types of things when it comes to being the "better good", to represent something that is rarely represented, and to smooth over what others don't bother trying to smooth. to show not everyone is the same and there is always at least one person that will join you're side.

even though i show great intolerance in the points i was making, it was more of my way of "sharing" the emotions that many of you have probably felt from the lash of Christians against gays. to try to express in a sympathetic way what many of you might be feeling or have felt over the years. to say that honestly, its okay to be angry.

you have every RIGHT to be angry for words said or criticisms or bashing. do i encourage you to lash back at them? no, because as the bible says "harsh words bring up strife" and won't get you very far. but its okay to feel the way you do, that its okay to be angry.

but for me personally, yes i accept you guys for who you are. its against the "sin" not the sinner as the saying goes.

My dear girl, I have a very bad tendency to get attached to my first impressions of people. It is one of my worst qualities, and I can only do the best I can to be the best person I can--and sometimes it isn't easy to let go of those first impressions, to avoid harsh words where they are not due.

But I'm happy to say that you made both of these things very easy for me to do. At least in this respect, you have earned your title as "smoothing agent".

I don't agree with your semantics at all. You, first as a person and a Christian second, should know better than to espouse on Hate, and on sick anger. I'm not going to lecture you on either note, because I think I've made my point exceedingly clear, and if I'm reading your response correctly, you seem to agree.

That said, I will say that there is a healthy tension, and an unhealthy tension. It is from the latter that the sick anger is born, depression, angst, and ultimately, Hatred. The former brings harmony, well-being, and ultimately, Love.

If we are truly strong, we can channel the anger we feel into positive actions. Instead of getting angry and becoming hetero/homophobic, begin debates on homosexuality, start or join a GSA (already done, obviously), act in a way that shows that you are better than getting even, become a better you, a better me, for all the world to see, and maybe then, we can start developing that healthy tension that we love so much, that tension like well-strung strings on a violin, or the sinews that hold together our muscles, or good company.

I mean, isn't that what we all aim for? Not tolerance, but acceptance. Not lukewarm cordiality but truly warm fellowship. Is that too much to ask for? Or is it just the completion of human decency and compassion?

So let me be the first to foster that perfect, warm, fuzzy place reserved for puppy dreams and golden revelations, and Fruits Basket--that perfect environment for Love to start and grow strong--and ask for friendship.

You know what? I'm glad I posted after all. I feel like things got resolved. What about you, SC?



And Akurei.... I know I can be a little much sometimes. Forgive me, please.

Love and Vale,
~Leavaros Dapple

One can never have too many friends, huh?
-LD

So very true, my dear. So very true.
-LD