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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:34 pm


Have to agree about the placebo thing. And the stuff about people going to rehab for marijuana is pretty much BS. My husband did it because if he didn't he would lose his job, not because he wanted to or felt he needed it. And when they asked him about his experience, he played it up so that, again, he wouldn't lose his job. Now he's medical, though, so it doesn't really matter.

I think the placebo thing is also relevant in marijuana "withdrawals" because I've known (and spoken with others about this) people to feel shitty if they consume a lot and are suddenly without, but if they get their mind off of it, through work or games or whatever, they don't even notice it.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:00 pm


Rick Perry disturbs me much more than Paul, no doubt about that. I do, however, take great exception to his "We the People" Act, proposed in 2005. Moreover, his expressed views on the "attack" on religion by the left is quite partisan and rather disturbing. I frankly disagree with the founders of this country on a few points, one of which being the lack of complete separation of church and state, and I believe this should be amended.And if it matters, I am religious.

Also, his support for the Citizens United ruling is completely against my own views. Lastly, his support of a prohibition against flag-burning is a very, very worrisome fact to me. But no, he is not the worst of the bunch by far; for instance, I agree with him in supporting jury nullification, albeit limited through multiple instances.

I'm not saying that personal experiences have no place, but to use one's own experience as unfalsifiable scientific evidence is fallacious. That's why there are objective measures of mental functioning; self-reports are not always reliable. For instance, someone drinking Four Loko would self-report higher levels of functioning than someone who imbibed the same amount of alcohol without the caffeine, but both would be equally impaired. The placebo effect is also limited, especially when dealing with withdrawal.

Actually, an enormous amount of research has been done on the effects of junk food. And why is pot different? Because it is potentially dangerous to others if you are driving while high with your reduced reflexes and impaired executive functioning. Driving while fat has no such risks.

Edit: I'm a bit tired, so I'm not sure if all of the above is coherent. ^^;

Eruresto


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:38 am


Eruresto
Rick Perry disturbs me much more than Paul, no doubt about that. I do, however, take great exception to his "We the People" Act, proposed in 2005. Moreover, his expressed views on the "attack" on religion by the left is quite partisan and rather disturbing. I frankly disagree with the founders of this country on a few points, one of which being the lack of complete separation of church and state, and I believe this should be amended.And if it matters, I am religious.

Also, his support for the Citizens United ruling is completely against my own views. Lastly, his support of a prohibition against flag-burning is a very, very worrisome fact to me. But no, he is not the worst of the bunch by far; for instance, I agree with him in supporting jury nullification, albeit limited through multiple instances.

I'm not saying that personal experiences have no place, but to use one's own experience as unfalsifiable scientific evidence is fallacious. That's why there are objective measures of mental functioning; self-reports are not always reliable. For instance, someone drinking Four Loko would self-report higher levels of functioning than someone who imbibed the same amount of alcohol without the caffeine, but both would be equally impaired. The placebo effect is also limited, especially when dealing with withdrawal.

Actually, an enormous amount of research has been done on the effects of junk food. And why is pot different? Because it is potentially dangerous to others if you are driving while high with your reduced reflexes and impaired executive functioning. Driving while fat has no such risks.

Edit: I'm a bit tired, so I'm not sure if all of the above is coherent. ^^;
Marijuana and Driving Is Marijuana really that dangerous while driving? I'll admit, I'd never do it, I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it, but its actually possible to be a safe driver while being high off Marijuana. That's just one of the better credits videos out there of course. There are a lot of less credible videos too of people doing the same thing. I personally can't stand junk food and the thought of it clogging up my arteries overtime and then having a heart attack from it. So why doesn't the government ban junk food? More people have died from doing junk food than Marijuana. This is just one article on junk food 40,000 deaths a year due to junk food Help me find the death toll from Marijuana use? Here is an article comparing junk food additives to that of cocaine Studies show junk foods change brain chemistry and are addictive like cocaine

Course that is just one article, I'm sure we could all find more. Then again, I'm sure you could find articles saying Marijuana is Worse than Heroine and that is when you scratch your head and ask yourself, "What's fact and what's false?" Cause basically some are saying Junk food is bad as cocaine and some are saying Marijuana is just as bad as Heroine.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:58 am


I fully agree that there is no consensus whatsoever, which is exactly why I am not currently in favor of legalization. But I am in favor of decriminalization.

Eruresto


Valgex

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:12 pm


Eruresto
I fully agree that there is no consensus whatsoever, which is exactly why I am not currently in favor of legalization. But I am in favor of decriminalization.
Decriminalization is a good start, better than having it still illegal and have this Medical Marijuana thing floating around.. They basically contradict each other and causes problems.. So.. If its only decriminalized, that means you just get like fines or something like that right? Still kind of causes problems though. Should just be like Alcohol. Alcohol still causes problems, but they are very minimal compared to when that stuff itself was illegal and they did drive-bys and crazy stuff like that.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:29 pm


Valgex
Eruresto
I fully agree that there is no consensus whatsoever, which is exactly why I am not currently in favor of legalization. But I am in favor of decriminalization.
Decriminalization is a good start, better than having it still illegal and have this Medical Marijuana thing floating around.. They basically contradict each other and causes problems.. So.. If its only decriminalized, that means you just get like fines or something like that right? Still kind of causes problems though. Should just be like Alcohol. Alcohol still causes problems, but they are very minimal compared to when that stuff itself was illegal and they did drive-bys and crazy stuff like that.


I completely disagree but I'm tired of beating a dead horse and am borderline ready to lock this thread anyways.

Nikolita
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Eruresto

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:13 am


In deference to Niko I will stop, though I also disagree.
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