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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:40 pm


According to the logic of Stephenie Meyer, Jacob and the rest of his tribe (w/e thing) are not werewolves but in fact shapeshifters. This is even stated somewhere in one of the books. By our standards of what we know, a shapeshifter is a person posesses the ability to change into anything. So by that definition, a werewolf is a shapeshifter. But SMeyer, being the loon she is, insists that werewolves and shapeshifters are two different things.

Here's the epiphany: My guess, is that she never intended Jacob to be a werewolf, just a person that can change into a wolf without there being a perma halfman halfwolf stage that stands on it's hind legs. Think Animorphs. Though she couldn't say that because it would be an admission on her part that she was using K.A. Applegate's idea. BUT...as we all know, no research went into the books. From what I know and have read, there is an RPG game called Werewolf: The Apocalypse published by a company called White Wolf that puts a new spin on the werewolf transformation idea. In Werewolf: The Apocalyspe, there are several different stages of transformation for a werewolf, they are: Homid (Human form), Lupus (Wolf form), Glabro (Physically strong brutish humans that are slightly hairer than regular humans), Crinos (Traditional wolfman), and Hispo (Wolves of unnatural size and strength). From the clips I've seen for New Moon, SMeyer's shapeshifters look an awful lot like Hispos. Though I'm sure there's no way SMeyer could know about Werewolf: The Apocalypse, as it is still very underground. Since the 1st edition of Werewolf was published in 1992, thirteen years before Twilight was published, by technical terms, SMeyer did not come up with the idea for the way her werewolves look. As we all know, different people have different ideas of what a werewolf looks like. There is Lon Chaney's Wolfman (Overly hairy man that has facial and body features like a wolf that stands on its hind legs), the werewolf from An American Werewolf in London (overgrown wolf that crawled around on all fours), The Howling's rabid bunnyrabbit looking werewolves, even Michael Jackson's werewolf in Thriller.

Despite all this, SMeyer still maintains the fact that her werewolves are not werewolves but shapeshifters. Yet common knowledge tells us that despite what she says, her shapeshifters are still a form of a werewolf and are labeled as such because they do not transform into anything else.

So now I'm asking for your opinions. Would you agree with me? Please feel free to post your own takes on this.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:15 pm


The way I think of it is that she tagged on the term 'werewolf' just to get the connotations and buzz that can make along with the vampire thing she had going. They aren't real lycans, they are just humans who can take the form of a wolf. But you know, it doesn't bother me. It's the author's interpretation, though it's not what I'd personally go for in taking on the subject in writing.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:29 pm


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As my friend explained it they're shape shifters that are supposed to be able to turn into anything at any time but for some reason they only turn into wolves (surprisingly my friend did research on how Meyer got her reasoning) so yeah
It's stupid and she doesn't know anything but of course like koolkitty said it's probably just for the hype.
And actually werewolves there are different kinds but it usually just depends on the geography of the area because say in books about Transylvania they become full wolves or even humanoid wolves
In other areas it's just that they get super hairy and wolf looking but still human
It all just depends

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:46 pm


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As my friend explained it they're shape shifters that are supposed to be able to turn into anything at any time but for some reason they only turn into wolves (surprisingly my friend did research on how Meyer got her reasoning) so yeah
It's stupid and she doesn't know anything but of course like koolkitty said it's probably just for the hype.
And actually werewolves there are different kinds but it usually just depends on the geography of the area because say in books about Transylvania they become full wolves or even humanoid wolves
In other areas it's just that they get super hairy and wolf looking but still human
It all just depends

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So basically what I said about many different people/cultures having different ideas of what werewolves look like. Btw, cute avi.

On an unrelated topic: My bestie is having a baby girl!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:39 pm


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I just go with "She's stupid and has no idea what she's doing."
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I just go with "She's stupid and has no idea what she's doing."
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But don't you think she might have cycled round on the scale? You know, like the cuteness scale, where eventually, when the animal becomes so ugly, it eventually becomes cute again. Maybe SM is on the 'Stupid' scale, and the reason she's not cranking out the next book at the same pace and with the same advertisements is because she's cycled round on the stupid scale, and suddenly she's smart enough to know her books are bullshit.

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Or maybe I'll just go with your idea.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:00 pm


Maybe it's just the overwhelming stench of French Onion Soup-which I somehow doubt is French-talking, but I think she's just crazy.On a different note-your post was so bright, I think my bad eyesight just got worse. emo
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I just go with "She's stupid and has no idea what she's doing."
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But don't you think she might have cycled round on the scale? You know, like the cuteness scale, where eventually, when the animal becomes so ugly, it eventually becomes cute again. Maybe SM is on the 'Stupid' scale, and the reason she's not cranking out the next book at the same pace and with the same advertisements is because she's cycled round on the stupid scale, and suddenly she's smart enough to know her books are bullshit.

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Or maybe I'll just go with your idea.
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Even with that method she's still stupid.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:35 pm


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I just go with "She's stupid and has no idea what she's doing."
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Or, "She's a ******** moron and she doesn't have the slightest idea of what in the heck is she doing."
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I just go with "She's stupid and has no idea what she's doing."
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But don't you think she might have cycled round on the scale? You know, like the cuteness scale, where eventually, when the animal becomes so ugly, it eventually becomes cute again. Maybe SM is on the 'Stupid' scale, and the reason she's not cranking out the next book at the same pace and with the same advertisements is because she's cycled round on the stupid scale, and suddenly she's smart enough to know her books are bullshit.

...

Or maybe I'll just go with your idea.
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Even with that method she's still stupid.
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You're right. She is clearly, without loopholes, an idiot.

I think I'm going to go cry now.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:18 pm


One of my friends said to me "BUT IT HAS WEREWOLVES IN IT" the other day when I said "I don't want to go see something I hate and waste 8$ (New Moon.)"

I simply shrugged off their statement due to the fact that they have very little in common with actual werewolves... *sigh* Twitards. They're shapeshifters, not werewolves; just as they're sparklepires, not vampires.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:21 pm


What a retard. Werewolves are werewolves.

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