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 Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:49 am
Discuss.
My thoughts: Meh and quite bad. A pity, since wednesday's was so good, with the evil circus freaks and whatnot.
That scream wasn't THAT freaky a sound. I could make that sound.
Also, having gay sex while one is supposed to be working is, in my opinion, very irresopnsible.
And why didn't they just retcon her at the end? She obviously wanted to forget rolleyes
To sum up: Torchwood should be more proffesional, and then people would complain less about their incompetence.
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:02 am
The episode is called Adrift, Crumpet Lord.
And, by the way, I'd completely disagree on your views on said episode. I loved it, personally.
Okay, so it felt like a bit of a filler. So what? So have half of the episodes in this series. Who cares? Most of this year's episodes have been damn fine, and this is no exception. Especially considering that this was written by the same guy who did Day One and Cyberwoman...
The scream wasn't freaky, nor was it supposed to be. It was meant to be disturbing and sad, which it pretty much was, at least to my mind.
The 'Janto' scene...well, yes, it is fairly irresponsible, but we're talking about Torchwood here. They're pretty much the masters or irresponsibility. It's as mush their job as uncovering alien artifacts ever will be.
Rewatch the first few episodes again, and you'll see what I mean.
They could very well have retconned her, but then, due to her having at last seen her son after all that time, even if the experience was as horrible as it was; there is the issue of morality attached to the whole...oh, right, they're Torchwood. Point taken.
They should also be more secret, so less people will complain in general, or even be aware of its existence.
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:17 am
'Kay, well the scream wasn't that disturbing or sad, in my opinion.
As my dad said, there wasn't much of a story, all that happened was that kid went missing and then they had gay sex.
It would have been better if, for example, the rift needed feeding so that it didn't swallow the whole of Cardiff/the world/whatever, so Jack is feeding it, but hasn't let the rest of the team know. Of course Gwen, being Gwen and therefore all too human and unable to see the bigger picture, won't accept this and thus places the whole city/country/world in jeapordy. Again.
Just a thought, rather than Jack being all caring and compassionate and whatnot. Jack should be more consistent, and just do what must be done.
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:11 pm
It's called character-based. It doesn't need a good story, so much as interesting, believable characters and a decent script; and I'd call the script decent (can you believe this was written by Chris Chibnall, The same person who wrote several of series one's weaker episodes? His writing has inexplicably improved, it would seem) and the characters were believable.
Okay, so as I previously mentioned, it was somewhat of a filler. So what. I actually felt emotion during this, aside from the thought of "Why the hell am I watching this s**t? Surely I have better things to do".
And if I can care about the characters and feel for them, then a great plot isn't really necessary, in my opinion.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:15 am
Meh. It was alright. I quite liked the explanation for what was going on, but... wtf? Dark star? Twenty-hour scream? Is that even physically possible? He'd have to draw breath at some point, wouldn't he?
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:15 pm
The problem with your theory is the characters aren't believable. Like, at all.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:16 pm
I think that they are definitely becoming more believeable.
If you look at series one, then the main characters pretty much are:
The Gay American Man Who was in Doctor Who.
The Welsh Woman.
The Welsh Man Who Cleans Up and Whatnot and Sometimes Flirts with the Gay American Man.
The Asian Woman Who Does a Lot of Technobollocks, and Otherwise Doesn't Get much Development, Except in that One Episode With the Alien Pendant, Which was Rather Meh in any Case.
The Hetrosexual Doctor Who Flirts a Lot and Hates Rapists but at One Point Commits Rape Using an Alien Pheremone and Also Shags the Welsh Woman.
Now the characters have all had some decent development (which seems like the whole point of Series 2, not that that's a bad thing...), the characters have become more believable.
For example: Owen. He went from being The Doctor Who Has Sex a Fair Deal of the Time and is a Complete Wanker to A Character We Can Kind of Care about Now, Thanks to Dead Man Walking and A Day in the Death
The same thing goes for the others. Jack, Gwen, Tosh and Ianto have all recieved decent amounts of development in this current series, which they had all been lacking before.
At least they're not just cardboard cut-outs now, like they were back in series one.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:44 am
They may not be cardboard cut-outs, but they're still pretty damn ridiculous, and I have a hard time believing them.
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:02 pm
Travis III If you look at series one, then the main characters pretty much are: The Gay American Man Who was in Doctor Who.
The Welsh Woman.
The Welsh Man Who Cleans Up and Whatnot and Sometimes Flirts with the Gay American Man.
The Asian Woman Who Does a Lot of Technobollocks, and Otherwise Doesn't Get much Development, Except in that One Episode With the Alien Pendant, Which was Rather Meh in any Case.
The Hetrosexual Doctor Who Flirts a Lot and Hates Rapists but at One Point Commits Rape Using an Alien Pheremone and Also Shags the Welsh Woman.quoted for the sheer WIN. I agree, incidentally. Also, there're so many different Jacks, depending on who's writing him, and this one was one I liked. *shrug* Am I the only Janto-shipper who was happier bout the "it was Ianto, wasn't it?" line than the random shagging-on-a-plant scene? :/
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:11 am
ogs-chan Travis III If you look at series one, then the main characters pretty much are: The Gay American Man Who was in Doctor Who.
The Welsh Woman.
The Welsh Man Who Cleans Up and Whatnot and Sometimes Flirts with the Gay American Man.
The Asian Woman Who Does a Lot of Technobollocks, and Otherwise Doesn't Get much Development, Except in that One Episode With the Alien Pendant, Which was Rather Meh in any Case.
The Hetrosexual Doctor Who Flirts a Lot and Hates Rapists but at One Point Commits Rape Using an Alien Pheremone and Also Shags the Welsh Woman.quoted for the sheer WIN. I agree, incidentally. Also, there're so many different Jacks, depending on who's writing him, and this one was one I liked. *shrug* Am I the only Janto-shipper who was happier bout the "it was Ianto, wasn't it?" line than the random shagging-on-a-plant scene? :/
more quote for sheer WIN. xD
(You forgot about the oft-mentioned cyberchick.. DX)
The above description is completely true for all of them in Season One.
They've got actual characters now, though.
I liked the premise of the show, what with "since the Rift constantly gives, it must take in order to restore balance".. but in notsomany words. It just wasn't exactly thought out by the writer... *ahem* who has actually improved, since this story didn't suck as much as Day One or Countrycide.
Some of it was completely unbelievable. though.. like the "Looked into the heart of a Dark Star" ... I literally thought the sentence would finish out with "TARDIS". stare and the "twenty hour scream" was a bit much. So how's the mom gonna visit her son if she doesn't know what four hours he'll be fine? stare
And yeah, I was happier about the "It was Ianto, wasn't it?" line. ^^
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