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 Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:38 am
[BlkCat] DrasBrisingr a**l Jesus DrasBrisingr a**l Jesus DrasBrisingr Yeah, but only if your DNA is already in the system. I mean, what, do you think they keep little vials of everyone's DNA who has ever lived just sitting around in some warehouse out in Kansas? Possible, but doubtful. Well with the way the govt. going lately. I wouldn't be surprised if they started taking our DNA soon enough. xd Hey, I'm as much of a conspiracy theorist as the next guy, but even that's a stretch. Although, if there's another huge tax spike, then it might be feasible (which reminds me...idunwannadomytaxes). Lol. Me either. My dads all, "OMG DO UR TAXES SONNNNNN". I don't see why I have to. Remember, children, if you don't do your taxes, there's going to be a nice man in a black suit and fedora with a briefcase at your door. Unless, of course, you don't make enough that you have to file. Then you're ok. Lazy people, I filed my taxes in 30 minutes online and got direct deposit of $437, 10 days later. Actually, I just found out that my mother apparently obtained all of my income information and handed it over to her accountant. So I'm home free. (It kind of worries me, though. I don't know how she got my income information...maybe because I was still a minor for most of last year? ******** if I know.)
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:05 pm
[BlkCat] Starlock Why in the blazes would you want to stop aging? To not die of old age, eternal youth. Hah... I forgot I had replied to this topic. Why in the blazes would you want to never die of old age? Or have eternal youth? Most often I've found the people who want these things either haven't resolved their fear of 'death' or have not seriously considered the real-world implications of 'immortality.' It's bad enough that there's too many of us on the planet as it is without adding something like this into the mix. xd
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:18 pm
Starlock [BlkCat] Starlock Why in the blazes would you want to stop aging? To not die of old age, eternal youth. Hah... I forgot I had replied to this topic. Why in the blazes would you want to never die of old age? Or have eternal youth? Most often I've found the people who want these things either haven't resolved their fear of 'death' or have not seriously considered the real-world implications of 'immortality.' It's bad enough that there's too many of us on the planet as it is without adding something like this into the mix. xd Thats the thing, I'm not talking about this being on a world-wide scale, I'm talking about wanting to develop the ability to do this and give it as a gift for people who truly deserve it and will make good use of their extended life. It wont be "I can't die, I'm immortal", it will be "I wont die of old age, and can end it anytime I please anyway". I have absolutely no fear of death, only the will to do as much good for the good hearted people here as I can in my current life span. I knew another person like that, that inspired me so much who died (not of old age, but of cancer). I think this world needs more people like that, and those few people deserve to be here as long as they want to do as much good as possible. Oh and to add to this... I can imagine a reply saying something like... "what happens if this ability IS possible and gets into the wrong hands" Which is why as I work on this theory, and as I start moving from basic Scalar manipulation to the more advanced stuff I'm talking about here, I'm also working on theories and developing a fail-safe. Fail-safe: If I can manage to slow or stop the aging process, who's to say I cannot speed it up....a lot....? Or simply remove the TCE from the body without replacing a buffer, which as Obscurus has said, would most likely result in spontaneous combustion.
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:06 pm
Ah, not on a worldwide scale. Gotcha. I had considered this though and this is what the likely outcome would be if such a technology were even developed.
The folks with money would get it. The poor people wouldn't. Who gets it and who doesn't would be decided based on who 'truly deserves it' but who has the ability to get it. Even if that were somehow by some miracle not the case, who decides who is 'truly deserving' to begin with? Any such designation would be fraught with personal biases and because of that, no matter how smart a person (or body of persons making the decision) is, I question the wisdom of giving anyone the power to make such a decision. I certainly wouldn't want it. The sorts of people who would want this ability are likely the same people who absolutely shouldn't have it (as they'd abuse it). Any hands are the wrong hands, IMHO. There are some things that should simply be left alone.
On the other hand, we're already so far off the deep end in terms of manipulating things for our own short sighted benefit, I find it hard to say we absolutely shouldn't do this since we already f*&# up so many other aspects of our existence. Pandora's box is already open on these sorts of things. For better or worse. I grow tired of people seeking external solutions for what are really internal problems. A longer life does not mean a better life. Those who know they are going to die often start living more fully than those of us who don't know when our time is going to come.
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:33 pm
I want to go back to the original hypothesis for a second.
When you say "find a way" to do this, Blk, do you mean metaphysically or through some advance in technology? If it would be through some spiritual or metaphysical means then I don't think everyone would have the capability of doing it in the first place, which would probably be a good thing.
If it is through some technology then I feel it would be for whoever could afford it, as Starlock said.
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:34 pm
Obscurus I want to go back to the original hypothesis for a second. When you say "find a way" to do this, Blk, do you mean metaphysically or through some advance in technology? If it would be through some spiritual or metaphysical means then I don't think everyone would have the capability of doing it in the first place, which would probably be a good thing. If it is through some technology then I feel it would be for whoever could afford it, as Starlock said. Metaphysical.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:38 pm
I respect most people who aren't like "Haw haw haw ultimate power und life"
That being said, if I was offered a chance, on this world, to not die of age, without anything stupid like soul trade or killing a hundred babies to make a Philosopher's Stone or some s**t, I would probably take it. After all, I think it would be kinda cool to live indefinately. Plus then I could learn a whole bunch of s**t and do something really cool. I mean, imagine going to college, researching things, and practicing magic for a hundred years straight. I'd have a degree in everything, have skills no ones ever heard of, and be wicked crazy good at Will Magick to shooting Force Lightning from my hands.
And I'm damn sure I could get done some of the things I wanted to here. And if I got too bored, or wanted to be done with this world, there is always suicide.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:19 am
Joshua_Ritter I respect most people who aren't like "Haw haw haw ultimate power und life"
That being said, if I was offered a chance, on this world, to not die of age, without anything stupid like soul trade or killing a hundred babies to make a Philosopher's Stone or some s**t, I would probably take it. After all, I think it would be kinda cool to live indefinately. Plus then I could learn a whole bunch of s**t and do something really cool. I mean, imagine going to college, researching things, and practicing magic for a hundred years straight. I'd have a degree in everything, have skills no ones ever heard of, and be wicked crazy good at Will Magick to shooting Force Lightning from my hands.
And I'm damn sure I could get done some of the things I wanted to here. And if I got too bored, or wanted to be done with this world, there is always suicide. Exactly! My goal would be to use part of my life to get rich, invest, put it in the bank, then be able to live off interest for as long as I want and never touch the original amount. Then once I'd be able to live without having to work, I'd have time to perfect my energy work and healing, then travel the world looking for truly good hearted people and teach them how to heal.
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:04 am
From what I know about microbiology, if you were to take away that which programs death of the cells, you'd get massive amounts of tumors and cancers. Which...is already in your OP. Well now I feel like a jerk. Oh well.
Also, not to be confused to stop codons, which cap the end of each and every gene, much like the period at the end of a sentence. Getting rid of those would be all kinds of bad.
However, the gene thing sounds more promising and realistic than the scalar energy IMO.
I doubt that we will ever find a way to manipulate scalar energy. Even though they call it energy, they're basically talking about time itself, which is not an easy thing to manipulate. As far as I know, you CAN bend time a little bit through the use of extreme speed (closer to the speed of light the better) or, theoretically, a pre-existing wormhole in the universe, but the invention of some sort of device which manipulates the energy of time itself...I mean anything is possible, but I wouldn't bet on that ever happening personally.
Of course, like people have mentioned, given that we DO somehow find the fountain of youth, it would have to be limited to a handful of people or the world's resources would be used up by the massive population. My guess is, if and when this breakthrough occurs, it will not be made public and/or will be only made available to an elite few, who will probably go around pretending to be gods or something. Another alternative is colonizing other planets, which I think would be possible by the time we figure out how to stop the aging process.
Speaking from a spiritual perspective, although death is not fun because it's a change, and I hate change, I feel that is is both necessary and GOOD. Death and destruction are integral to the cycle of life. It is necessary to have destruction in order for new life to thrive. Even on a spiritual level, human beings do the most growing because of--or in spite of--death.
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:06 pm
Asherah Delphinia I doubt that we will ever find a way to manipulate scalar energy. Even though they call it energy, they're basically talking about time itself, which is not an easy thing to manipulate. As far as I know, you CAN bend time a little bit through the use of extreme speed (closer to the speed of light the better) or, theoretically, a pre-existing wormhole in the universe, but the invention of some sort of device which manipulates the energy of time itself...I mean anything is possible, but I wouldn't bet on that ever happening personally. There's some scientist that is obsessed with time travel and he has made a machine that uses the gravity of laser beams to cause a gravitational vortex. He feels that he will eventually be able to send a single subatomic particle through the time stream. The machine exists, but it's not exactly working like in the movie. xd
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:46 pm
Asherah Delphinia From what I know about microbiology, if you were to take away that which programs death of the cells, you'd get massive amounts of tumors and cancers. Which...is already in your OP. Well now I feel like a jerk. Oh well.
Also, not to be confused to stop codons, which cap the end of each and every gene, much like the period at the end of a sentence. Getting rid of those would be all kinds of bad.
However, the gene thing sounds more promising and realistic than the scalar energy IMO.
I doubt that we will ever find a way to manipulate scalar energy. Even though they call it energy, they're basically talking about time itself, which is not an easy thing to manipulate. As far as I know, you CAN bend time a little bit through the use of extreme speed (closer to the speed of light the better) or, theoretically, a pre-existing wormhole in the universe, but the invention of some sort of device which manipulates the energy of time itself...I mean anything is possible, but I wouldn't bet on that ever happening personally.
Of course, like people have mentioned, given that we DO somehow find the fountain of youth, it would have to be limited to a handful of people or the world's resources would be used up by the massive population. My guess is, if and when this breakthrough occurs, it will not be made public and/or will be only made available to an elite few, who will probably go around pretending to be gods or something. Another alternative is colonizing other planets, which I think would be possible by the time we figure out how to stop the aging process.
Speaking from a spiritual perspective, although death is not fun because it's a change, and I hate change, I feel that is is both necessary and GOOD. Death and destruction are integral to the cycle of life. It is necessary to have destruction in order for new life to thrive. Even on a spiritual level, human beings do the most growing because of--or in spite of--death.
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:40 am
Joshua_Ritter People pretending to be gods are douchebags. Unless they actually believe they are gods. Then they're funny to watch.
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:40 pm
Joshua_Ritter That being said, I hope if they discover immortality it's given to cool people like Blk or Mitsh, and not to people like Rupert Murdoch. If he was immortal? Exctinction. You DO realize that IF I were actually Immortal(in the true sense of the word), there'd be only about 1 billion people on earth right?
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