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Ok Alaois......i have read your post and guess what......as everyone has said...you have no idea what you are talking about....you dont have to be in a coven to be a wiccan...you dont have to strip down naked to worship anyone...you dont have to worship the lord and the lady....we believe in the lord and the lady but we dont worship them....that is neopaganism...what obviously you claim to be....if you really are a neopagan you need to do your research instead of posting fake and pseudoinformative links that give me nothing don't back your point. Oh and on one of your recent posts...you be three years of age and be a wiccan if you want....you dont have to be 30 to 40 years old.....you are utterly insane...and until you find some sound and decent information that can prove your point...maybe you should just stop posting because you are just digging yourself deeper into a hole.......please do more research that isn't a post from gaia...that are people who claim to know what they are talking about....because obviously they dont...i have been studying Wicca for a long time now.....and everything you do is a choice....you can be a solitary witch and be a wiccan....but a witch cannot be a wiccan... and here proves my point to this you have stated that you cant be a solitary witch and be wiccan...well guess what you can...because there are many witches that are wiccans...here for example are three...solitary witches, kitchen witches, and garden witches...and many many more......me myself, i am a solitary witch...so please when you finally learn that you are wrong ..... come back and maybe i we can teach you somethings!!!!

And here you go ..... what just a little research will do .....>>


Solitary Life

It seems that a majority of Wiccans first learned of Wicca by reading books and visiting pagan websites. They become interested and actively seek out the pagan community in their area to join or form their own coven. Then, there are those that continue their solitary studies but stay in the outskirts of the pagan community, taking advantage of open opportunities in the community but never joining or forming a coven. These are the solitary Wiccans. Being a solitary Wiccan has advantages and disadvantages, and it is up to the individual to weigh them.

It is true that sometimes it is not a choice for the Wiccan to be a soliary practioner. When there are no known groups to join, or there is seemingly no way to make contacts within a spiritual path, one must learn to work alone. But hopefully, revealed here are reasons why it might not necessarily be a negative option.



Some find that the most powerful advantage is the individually-defined focus of study. With a self-defined focus, it is ensured that the Wiccan’s desire to learn specific topics is always met. There are really no limitations to the Wiccan’s study. The down side to this is that there is no one to guide the learner; therefore, the learner may be missing important teachings, healthy discussions, suggestions, and helpful criticism.



Another advantage to solitary study and work is that it avoids all the problems that can arise from a group/coven dynamic. Examples of these group pressures include group obligations and member competition, among others. There are no set meetings nor any worry of personality conflicts. Also, there is no conflict between neighboring covens (witch wars).



The problem with missing coven dynamic is that the learner is not exposed to the multiple interpretations that would be available to them in a study group or coven. It is always possible for the learner to be influences by a particular text and not be aware of differing interpretations. This could lead to a very hollow study of items that should be explored more deeply. (The problem with this, of course, is that the more interpretations are revealed, the more confused the learner can become.) Also, there is no collaboration with others or group experiences to spark new flames of thought.



An advantage is that the solitare comes closer to the truth behind their faith. They nuture the personal relationship with the deities, and with that reach new levels of enlightenment. They divide their day as they choose, between their work and their study, and accustom themselves to the everyday practice of their faith. This helps them become life-long learners, because they find their own sparks of understanding.



It’s true that the solitary Wiccan must be self-driven and their interest must be self-sustaining in order for their learning to develop and grow over the years, and they alone reap the rewards. Remember, the first step on a spiritual journey must be taken alone.



Coven Life

A coven is a congregation of Wiccans who worship together. A coven generally has a chosen tradition and pantheon, which all members belong. But there are also covens which the members follow different paths, but come together to either celebrate common sabbats or practice magick for common purposes.



Although covens vary in size and membership qualifications, there are some generalities. A coven is generally between three and thirteen members including a High Priestess and/or High Priest who leads the gatherings and rituals. Covens can have systems of degree, based on study and practice of certain rituals, spells, et-cetera, with the goal of becoming a High Priestess/Priest or Elder. Some covens have open membership, and others have process of initiation, normally involving a period of study for a year and a day.



Training groups are also a form of coven, where an Elder of High Priestess/Priest of a nearby coven is contacted by individuals interested in learning more about Wicca and/or Witchcraft. The Priestess/Priest provides informational meetings and practical training of magick usage for the interested. It is rare that money is charged for this training, and it is common that the neophytes later join the Priestess/Priest’s coven.



When a coven’s membership has grown too large for them to meet easily, it is common for the coven to ‘hive’, or break off into smaller covens. A Priestess/Priest of high degree is chosen to lead a new coven, and part of the large coven’s congregation joins this new coven.



With multiple covens in one area, disagreements can occur. This is referred to as a ‘witch war.’ Like all religions, individual covens can have individual beliefs and a tension can form between covens of differing beliefs. It is a rarity, but should be avoided at all costs by opening up a calm forum of discussion to work matters out. When Wiccans and/or Witches fight amongst each other, it reflects badly on us all.



And if you dont believe me here is the link....

http://www.wiccanlife.com/?s=solitary+witch

Once again, I will state it. You are not a Wiccan if you're not in a Coven. It isn't that hard to understand. Government sources aren't going to correct either, specially ones that are from court. They are going to generalize everything. Hell, I was a Criminal Justice Major at one point, you should see how generalized some of the law papers can be.

Anything you learn about Wicca is considered OUTER COURT, if a High Priest/Priestess is telling you anything about Wicca they are either breaking their oath to the Lord and Lady...or they ******** lying to you.

Wicca isn't passed from mother to daughter. You are cross gender-initiated, meaning if you're a male you are initiated by the High Priestess and if you're a female you are initiated by the High Priest.

And the ONE category you're talking about is the Traditional or the one all other 'branches' have started from.

Traditional Wicca is Gardnerian, Alexanderian, and Central Valley (I think that is right). all others are Neo-Pagan and not Wicca, unless they can trace their lineage through training of their high priest/priestess back to gardner.

Wicca isn't a religion for everyone, they don't want everyone; if they did...their rituals, beliefs, and practices would be common knowledge by now. Hell the religion is only 60 years old.



I refuse to accept a source that is an opinion. Kat (the writer of that website) has no source or proof to back her claims of anything she said in her BLOG. If there was sources to back her claims, that would be a different story.




Why exclude Religious Tolerance.org?

Because they haven't expanded on their Wicca section since it was written. It is misinformed, even after repeated attempts to explain to them that they need to update their page.

That is why.

You gave several sources that had no source of their own besides opinions. The sources couldn't even back up their own sources. rolleyes



I will say the same thing, any research you do, be it online or in a book, will be outer court. The simple stuff anyone can do and find. Even Mama Silver's (Silver Ravenwolf) books can be considered Outer Court, regardless if she is only Pagan and was never initiated. You will not be told everything while doing studies from only books and websites. You need to go out and search for a Coven and speak to them to learn more. Even if you find a coven, they may not even take you. Like I said before, it can take years if not decades before you find the right Coven for you.

BTW seeket spoke of someone who travels 3000 miles once a month to train with his coven. See how that works? I hope you do.

Wicca cannot be changed, because you do not agree with parts of it. You need to be a Coven to be Wiccan and to learn who the true Lord and Lady are. If you ever leave, you're no longer Wiccan because you left the coven.

You're still a witch, or solitary practitioner, which isn't a bad thing. But you're not a Wiccan. You're not a Wiccan until you become a 1st degree initiate in a coven with lineage to Gardner.

I will use a simple example to explain something.

You cannot go around calling yourself a Catholic, it is something earned once you do confession, the sacraments, and finally eat/drink the body and blood of Christ.

See how that works?

owo wow....o= oh and I got that from a person on wiccatogether.com.... a wiccan site I found a long time ago......but I've told you what I was going to do...=3 so..yea...^^" Ichigo you and
Alaois have fun....

I'm wiccan and my parents are always forcing me to go to church on sundays. it's ******** up and i hate it.

I admit i'm not Wiccan myself, nor do i have any friends that are Wiccan. All i know is that i did a bit of research after i heard about it, and i found that i had a fasination with Wicca. My parents are really against me even talking about the Wiccan religion because they fear that i will start worshiping Satan. I really wish they'd open up their minds to Wicca, instead of listening to the rumors about it.