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 Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:25 am
xxEternallyBluexx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piuoGb-Nhfw What say you? Should a professor teach a class like that? Was the chalk not breaking just a coincidence? Any other comment? It's a great story, but you shouldn't post stories that you can't validate.
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:05 pm
divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx Itachi_Hare A god definately did that.. they removed everything but regardless of whether it was a miracle or not a god did that, whether it was yours or someone elses a god did that (unless of course one is an atheist in which case it is only a genetic mutation) whatever faith one clings to a god did that and that is most definatley not the worst thing a god could do!!!!! And also i would prefer it if you don't twist what I said to try to prove your point if you are only going to quote part of my words make it more obvious that you took bits and pieces!!! Now that I've calmed down from reading that statement allow me to rationalize even further If you believe that your god is the true god he did that and not only did he do that but he did it for no reason. Mutations worse than that are found the world over... Things that are sadder, that are more life threatening and that people can't recover from. That little girl was able to get surgery done to allow her a normal life so it becomes good by giving her a story she can tell when she becomes an adult. If the hindu gods are real and are responsible they did that to prove their existance, I don't see how a god doing that to a little girl who was soon healed any better than the massacres your christian god or any other god for that matter has carried out. Also that is much better proof of a god than any of the stories I have heard of thusfar, a baby being born with a the same quality as a god that was celebrated on that day? thats much better than a smear in the fog of some guys car window that looks like a bearded guy. Also if you don't believe in the Hindu gods then you don't believe they did it. You therefore must believe your god did that... to prove a Hindu goddess is real? no for absolutely NO reason. Actually, I think a demon did it to lead people away from God. Or maybe there is a goddess who did, but with this I certainly don't think any good deity did it. And a lot of those wars were the fault of man, not God. wink So, why do demons do this? What is their motivation? Easy, to lead people away from God. Misery loves company, and satan because God created us in His image. He and his followers love to mess man up. It's kinda like hurting the son of a man you hate because you can't harm the man. The devil is not beneath doing that. But why would they want that? To spite God. Satan rebelled because he wasn't satisfied with being second best. They hurt us to hurt Him because they can't hurt Him.
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:16 pm
divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx I'll look for them if I ever get to go to India. I think it'll be quite a while before that's a possibility though, I'd love to know if there's any accounts on revelations around for any religion besides Christianity and Judaism. I don't think it's simple, just that it doesn't have a lot of truth or logic behind it. Thank you!  You have yet to explain how Hinduism is "illogical", let alone compared to your own beliefs. How is it any less likely for there to be multiple creators, or multiple faces of God as many Hindus believe? Before you say "My God says so", their Gods say the opposite. And they have majority rule. The logic is much more flowing than "we are being punished for the sins of the first humans who were tricked into eating magic fruit by a walking snake, so now we have to pray to a miracle-doing dead guy to get back on God's good side."- It starts with the cosmos and the world being a weave, with everything connected by the Brahman. All things are one thing in the Brahman. (It is what I consider God, though it connects to YHWH in the role, so I consider God to be YHWH) The Brahman is everything in it's spiritual core, that becomes physical matter. Individual souls are called Atman. Karma is how we transcend the mortal coil, so our Atman can meet up with the Brahman. Karma is done by deeds- If we do evil, our soul is "weighed down", and kept on the lower planes. If we do good, we float "up" to the higher planes. This is where the idea of reincarnation comes from, when we shed our mortal shell the Atman, according the reincarnation theory, goes to one of several layers depending on it's weight- There is a "god realm", which is basically heaven, "hell realm" and earth, with a few in between. That dynamic system of spiritual connection with everything, which is backed by Alchemy and science, makes much more sense and uses much more logic than the biblical creation story. If you're going by rules of the religion, my God is omnipotent and omniscient; I'm pretty sure He's know better. And I don't see why a god should have multiple arms, faces, animal parts, why people should be reincarnated, or karma actually at work. A single God at the root of everything seems more probable anyway. Still doesn't make more sense to me, partly because you put Christianity in simplistic terms that would make it look silly, and Hinduism in the most rational form you could. That's not really fair. I don't see how. The Biblical creation story has a lot of bits that correspond to people, while I think Hinduism actually says Brahman is dreaming the whole thing, and at some point he'll wake up and forget us? I also don't see how it explains evil? So is Brahman- It is everything. It is, then, MORE omnipotent than your belief, as you think, as stated, that God made the universe but isn't part of it. Being it is more connected than owning it. And again, that is still terrible, terrible logic. "My God is the right God because my God says so. He says so because he is the right God. He is the right God because-" Need I go further? It is logically invalid. And please, don't say "That's faith!", because the Hindu monks have just as much faith in their system. At which point you will say "It's illogical!" and we will end up back here. So let's cut to brass tacks and get some objectivity here. Also, you mention a single God- Why not a single system? The Brahman is one, and all "gods" are one in Brahman. You have to look at gods differently in different cultures. It's not that it's a council of omnipotent forces- Many hindu gods are very mundane. They are simply higher beings, like ghosts or spirits or angels. But since they are on a higher wavelength, they are "gods". Really, a lot of Hinduism is the same as a lot of Christianity. It's just a matter of lining up the matching parts and understanding cultural differences. And you put Hindu in simplistic, silly terms. It's not ABOUT multiple-armed gods, it's about a flowing connection between all things, and the power of our actions and their effects on other as well as ourselves- And even that is boiled down. Here's a perfect example. The dream theory isn't the only one- Hindu is extremely diverse. Evil is explained by karma- And, no- Not "If you do bad things, bad thing happen to you" karma. That's roughly the equivalent of saying that baptism is about giving a baby a magic bath. Karma is like classical mechanics- For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. If you do bad things, that negative energy tends to rebound. If you cut someone off in traffic, they get aggravated and show up to work angry and take it out on the secretary who passive-aggressively takes it out on her kids who get rebelious and skip class- It's a very cheesy example but at this hour it's the best I've got. The point of Karma is that when we do bad things, bad things come of it. Not just to us, but to the entire system, as it is all connected and reactive. It is, therefore, our job to escape this cycle to be free of the pain of negativity. I wouldn't say a monk's faith was illogical, especially if it was based on a revelation; the object of their faith may be incorrect, but not the faith itself. You're simplifying religions too much. Christianity's based on being Saved while most other religions rely on the individual's efforts to save themselves. At the core, they're different. I simplify out of ignorance. I spend a lot of time reading about Christianity, but hardly know a thing about Hinduism and Buddhism and to lesser degrees other religions because I haven't studied them extensively. It's part of the reason why I wanted info on them. So in that theory good and evil require a balance? The problem is our very nature rebels against such a balance. Everybody, or almost everybody looks to be good, which is evidence that good is the greater and original. (Sorry, I'm getting rushed off, so I skimmed, if I get back to it I'll read it more clearly. sweatdrop ) There are sects of Buddhism called "Free Land Buddhism" that believe in "salvation". If salvation is the problem, then the problem is solved with them. But is it God, or Christ who saves us? The father, or the son? I would say that a safer bet is the father, as it is he who is the universe, and is all. Christ was, at the very most, a vessel of the father, and in my interpretation, simply a man closer to the father than many others. Everyone tries to be good? Look at capitalism. Look at what we do, in the great country of America- We oppress the lower class for monetary gain, we start wars for trade routes and corporate contracts, we set up dictatorships to profit from slave labor- This is goodness? No, we are good when people are watching, and indeed, many people ARE truly good. However, in the human condition, there is want and greed, and that greed causes evil because, in some people's eyes, the money and power is worth it. That is where evil starts. Greater original, maybe. But remember the ripples in the pond- That corporate greed, for example, and the subsequent layoff leaves people out of work. These jobless individuals sometimes turn to crime, or join the military. The military, largely influenced by corporate goals, begins a war in some middle eastern country. The country collapses, the military sets up a dictator through a faked election, and the country begins making sneakers through child labor for the profit of Nike. Now, we have thousands suffering for the benefit of a few CEO's. That is how Karma works. That is how the balance is lost. That is what happens, in real life, and is happening now. The Father because He sent the Son, but in a way more the Son because Jesus shed blood for us, which is what frees us. There's power in blood (I think that's explained in the OT when the Lord instructs them on how to make their sacrifices). And who starts out wanting to do harm? No one I know. There's many self-centered people (which is why we need to make God our center instead), but most people would definitely choose to help other people, especially if no harm came to them because of it. Do you know anyone who wants to see children starve? Who would work to promote evil? Especially any child or toddler? We have to look for the roots of human nature in children, and I don't know of any young child who wants evil prevail at the end of a bedtime story. What does that tell you? Karma doesn't work, because it should be evident in the roots of human nature (a child should want to do harm as much as he wants to do good), and it's not. Good prevails as our desire, which means good was the original power.
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:26 pm
nikkitynikk xxEternallyBluexx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piuoGb-Nhfw What say you? Should a professor teach a class like that? Was the chalk not breaking just a coincidence? Any other comment? It's a great story, but you shouldn't post stories that you can't validate. Eh, I guess. xp I'm probably not gonna do something like this again.
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:13 am
Ello again. Well Blue I'll give u its a cute story, but it's impossible to be a miracle since its very likey to happen if the piece of chalk hits him. A miracle is someone getting shot in the head with an arrow,bullet or whatever and living, a miracle is someone surviving a plane crash. That chalk story wasn't an act of God it was just something that happened and it merely happened that day. If i whipped the chalk at the ground and it didn't break i'd be impressed but i'd never call that a miracle of god. And as to the Gods and Goddesses being too human for you thats something you need to think about, we can provide you with qualities, stories, their likes and dislikes but we can tell you their not demons, also you bible makes no mention of them to being false or real so why do you not think they are if God doesn't say so? I haven't read the bible so if what i said was wrong please correct me, if it was right then please answer my question.
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:19 am
xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx If you're going by rules of the religion, my God is omnipotent and omniscient; I'm pretty sure He's know better. And I don't see why a god should have multiple arms, faces, animal parts, why people should be reincarnated, or karma actually at work. A single God at the root of everything seems more probable anyway. Still doesn't make more sense to me, partly because you put Christianity in simplistic terms that would make it look silly, and Hinduism in the most rational form you could. That's not really fair. I don't see how. The Biblical creation story has a lot of bits that correspond to people, while I think Hinduism actually says Brahman is dreaming the whole thing, and at some point he'll wake up and forget us? I also don't see how it explains evil? So is Brahman- It is everything. It is, then, MORE omnipotent than your belief, as you think, as stated, that God made the universe but isn't part of it. Being it is more connected than owning it. And again, that is still terrible, terrible logic. "My God is the right God because my God says so. He says so because he is the right God. He is the right God because-" Need I go further? It is logically invalid. And please, don't say "That's faith!", because the Hindu monks have just as much faith in their system. At which point you will say "It's illogical!" and we will end up back here. So let's cut to brass tacks and get some objectivity here. Also, you mention a single God- Why not a single system? The Brahman is one, and all "gods" are one in Brahman. You have to look at gods differently in different cultures. It's not that it's a council of omnipotent forces- Many hindu gods are very mundane. They are simply higher beings, like ghosts or spirits or angels. But since they are on a higher wavelength, they are "gods". Really, a lot of Hinduism is the same as a lot of Christianity. It's just a matter of lining up the matching parts and understanding cultural differences. And you put Hindu in simplistic, silly terms. It's not ABOUT multiple-armed gods, it's about a flowing connection between all things, and the power of our actions and their effects on other as well as ourselves- And even that is boiled down. Here's a perfect example. The dream theory isn't the only one- Hindu is extremely diverse. Evil is explained by karma- And, no- Not "If you do bad things, bad thing happen to you" karma. That's roughly the equivalent of saying that baptism is about giving a baby a magic bath. Karma is like classical mechanics- For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. If you do bad things, that negative energy tends to rebound. If you cut someone off in traffic, they get aggravated and show up to work angry and take it out on the secretary who passive-aggressively takes it out on her kids who get rebelious and skip class- It's a very cheesy example but at this hour it's the best I've got. The point of Karma is that when we do bad things, bad things come of it. Not just to us, but to the entire system, as it is all connected and reactive. It is, therefore, our job to escape this cycle to be free of the pain of negativity. I wouldn't say a monk's faith was illogical, especially if it was based on a revelation; the object of their faith may be incorrect, but not the faith itself. You're simplifying religions too much. Christianity's based on being Saved while most other religions rely on the individual's efforts to save themselves. At the core, they're different. I simplify out of ignorance. I spend a lot of time reading about Christianity, but hardly know a thing about Hinduism and Buddhism and to lesser degrees other religions because I haven't studied them extensively. It's part of the reason why I wanted info on them. So in that theory good and evil require a balance? The problem is our very nature rebels against such a balance. Everybody, or almost everybody looks to be good, which is evidence that good is the greater and original. (Sorry, I'm getting rushed off, so I skimmed, if I get back to it I'll read it more clearly. sweatdrop ) There are sects of Buddhism called "Free Land Buddhism" that believe in "salvation". If salvation is the problem, then the problem is solved with them. But is it God, or Christ who saves us? The father, or the son? I would say that a safer bet is the father, as it is he who is the universe, and is all. Christ was, at the very most, a vessel of the father, and in my interpretation, simply a man closer to the father than many others. Everyone tries to be good? Look at capitalism. Look at what we do, in the great country of America- We oppress the lower class for monetary gain, we start wars for trade routes and corporate contracts, we set up dictatorships to profit from slave labor- This is goodness? No, we are good when people are watching, and indeed, many people ARE truly good. However, in the human condition, there is want and greed, and that greed causes evil because, in some people's eyes, the money and power is worth it. That is where evil starts. Greater original, maybe. But remember the ripples in the pond- That corporate greed, for example, and the subsequent layoff leaves people out of work. These jobless individuals sometimes turn to crime, or join the military. The military, largely influenced by corporate goals, begins a war in some middle eastern country. The country collapses, the military sets up a dictator through a faked election, and the country begins making sneakers through child labor for the profit of Nike. Now, we have thousands suffering for the benefit of a few CEO's. That is how Karma works. That is how the balance is lost. That is what happens, in real life, and is happening now. The Father because He sent the Son, but in a way more the Son because Jesus shed blood for us, which is what frees us. There's power in blood (I think that's explained in the OT when the Lord instructs them on how to make their sacrifices). And who starts out wanting to do harm? No one I know. There's many self-centered people (which is why we need to make God our center instead), but most people would definitely choose to help other people, especially if no harm came to them because of it. Do you know anyone who wants to see children starve? Who would work to promote evil? Especially any child or toddler? We have to look for the roots of human nature in children, and I don't know of any young child who wants evil prevail at the end of a bedtime story. What does that tell you? Karma doesn't work, because it should be evident in the roots of human nature (a child should want to do harm as much as he wants to do good), and it's not. Good prevails as our desire, which means good was the original power. I would like to point out that i know several children who do not do or want good things.. they only want good things to happen to them...
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:53 am
I can't believe this professor teach for 20 years. He is disrespectful. The school board should have gotten rid of him for being such an a**. It's okay if you don't believe in god, but if you put people down because you hold some type of grudge against Christians??? That's not okay. I would love to know if this is true. I have seen it once before, I forget who showed me, but if this is true, that teacher needs to be fired. The students should have petitioned. Schools are supposed to be a place of learning, not bullying and disrespect...
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:07 pm
xxEternallyBluexx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piuoGb-Nhfw What say you? Should a professor teach a class like that? Was the chalk not breaking just a coincidence? Any other comment?
That was not the case here.
I'm not sure if having your chalk break when you didn't is a proof that there is no deities.
The man fails to go into the many other possible reasons.
This reminds me of an argument a Christian tried to use to disprove evolution and approve of God, which was the the process of elimination.
Pretty much, he did so with what would happen to a pen if it dropped.
1.) The pen would disappear.
2.) The pen would float.
3.) The pen would break.
and he went on to remove the ones that did NOT make sense, as I know you could do right now.
However, the problem he used was the fact that he did not list the limitless possibilities that could have happened to the pen.
I don't believe in God but I believe in doing stuff right, this guy should have been suspended for malpractice.
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:56 pm
Zslone2 Ello again. Well Blue I'll give u its a cute story, but it's impossible to be a miracle since its very likey to happen if the piece of chalk hits him. A miracle is someone getting shot in the head with an arrow,bullet or whatever and living, a miracle is someone surviving a plane crash. That chalk story wasn't an act of God it was just something that happened and it merely happened that day. If i whipped the chalk at the ground and it didn't break i'd be impressed but i'd never call that a miracle of god. And as to the Gods and Goddesses being too human for you thats something you need to think about, we can provide you with qualities, stories, their likes and dislikes but we can tell you their not demons, also you bible makes no mention of them to being false or real so why do you not think they are if God doesn't say so? I haven't read the bible so if what i said was wrong please correct me, if it was right then please answer my question. I never called it miraculous, just interesting. I could dig up some miracles, if anyone wanted me to. Quote: "... their gods shall be a snare to you." Judges 2:3 "...when you have eaten and are full, and have built beautiful houses and dwell in them... [then] your heart is lifted up and you forget the Lord your God. ... you say in your heart, ‘My power and the might of my hand have gained me this wealth.’ "...if you by any means forget the Lord your God, and follow other gods... you shall surely perish. As the nations which the Lord destroys before you, so you shall perish, because you would not be obedient to the voice of the Lord your God." Deuteronomy 8:10-20 "The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 " ... if you turn away and forsake My statutes and My commandments which I have set before you, and go and serve other gods, and worship them, then I will uproot them from My land which I have given them; and this house which I have sanctified for My name I will cast out of My sight, and will make it a proverb and a byword among all peoples." 2 Chronicles 7:19-20 "...you cried out to Me, and I delivered you from their hand. Yet you have forsaken Me and served other gods. Therefore I will deliver you no more. Go and cry out to the gods which you have chosen; let them deliver you in your time of distress." Judges 10:12-14 "If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods,' which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him." Deuteronomy 13:8 "They have no knowledge, who carry the wood of their carved image, And pray to a god that cannot save. Tell and bring forth your case; Yes, let them take counsel together. Who has declared this from ancient time? Who has told it from that time? Have not I, the Lord? And there is no other God besides Me, a just God and a Savior; There is none besides Me. Look to Me, and be saved, all you ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other." Isaiah 45:20-22 "I have declared the former things from the beginning; They went forth from My mouth, and I caused them to hear it. Suddenly I did them, and they came to pass.... Even from the beginning I have declared it to you; Before it came to pass I proclaimed it to you, Lest you should say, ‘My idol has done them....’" Isaiah 48:3-5 "What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything? Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons. Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than He?" 1 Corinthians 10:19-22 "Each of you, throw away the abominations which are before his eyes, and do not defile yourselves with the idols of Egypt. I am the Lord your God.’ But they rebelled against Me and would not obey Me. They did not all cast away the abominations which were before their eyes." Ezekiel 20:7-8 "But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. And they did not repent...." Revelation 9:20-21 It's implied, if nothing else, that idols and false gods are evil.
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:57 pm
Itachi_Hare xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx If you're going by rules of the religion, my God is omnipotent and omniscient; I'm pretty sure He's know better. And I don't see why a god should have multiple arms, faces, animal parts, why people should be reincarnated, or karma actually at work. A single God at the root of everything seems more probable anyway. Still doesn't make more sense to me, partly because you put Christianity in simplistic terms that would make it look silly, and Hinduism in the most rational form you could. That's not really fair. I don't see how. The Biblical creation story has a lot of bits that correspond to people, while I think Hinduism actually says Brahman is dreaming the whole thing, and at some point he'll wake up and forget us? I also don't see how it explains evil? So is Brahman- It is everything. It is, then, MORE omnipotent than your belief, as you think, as stated, that God made the universe but isn't part of it. Being it is more connected than owning it. And again, that is still terrible, terrible logic. "My God is the right God because my God says so. He says so because he is the right God. He is the right God because-" Need I go further? It is logically invalid. And please, don't say "That's faith!", because the Hindu monks have just as much faith in their system. At which point you will say "It's illogical!" and we will end up back here. So let's cut to brass tacks and get some objectivity here. Also, you mention a single God- Why not a single system? The Brahman is one, and all "gods" are one in Brahman. You have to look at gods differently in different cultures. It's not that it's a council of omnipotent forces- Many hindu gods are very mundane. They are simply higher beings, like ghosts or spirits or angels. But since they are on a higher wavelength, they are "gods". Really, a lot of Hinduism is the same as a lot of Christianity. It's just a matter of lining up the matching parts and understanding cultural differences. And you put Hindu in simplistic, silly terms. It's not ABOUT multiple-armed gods, it's about a flowing connection between all things, and the power of our actions and their effects on other as well as ourselves- And even that is boiled down. Here's a perfect example. The dream theory isn't the only one- Hindu is extremely diverse. Evil is explained by karma- And, no- Not "If you do bad things, bad thing happen to you" karma. That's roughly the equivalent of saying that baptism is about giving a baby a magic bath. Karma is like classical mechanics- For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. If you do bad things, that negative energy tends to rebound. If you cut someone off in traffic, they get aggravated and show up to work angry and take it out on the secretary who passive-aggressively takes it out on her kids who get rebelious and skip class- It's a very cheesy example but at this hour it's the best I've got. The point of Karma is that when we do bad things, bad things come of it. Not just to us, but to the entire system, as it is all connected and reactive. It is, therefore, our job to escape this cycle to be free of the pain of negativity. I wouldn't say a monk's faith was illogical, especially if it was based on a revelation; the object of their faith may be incorrect, but not the faith itself. You're simplifying religions too much. Christianity's based on being Saved while most other religions rely on the individual's efforts to save themselves. At the core, they're different. I simplify out of ignorance. I spend a lot of time reading about Christianity, but hardly know a thing about Hinduism and Buddhism and to lesser degrees other religions because I haven't studied them extensively. It's part of the reason why I wanted info on them. So in that theory good and evil require a balance? The problem is our very nature rebels against such a balance. Everybody, or almost everybody looks to be good, which is evidence that good is the greater and original. (Sorry, I'm getting rushed off, so I skimmed, if I get back to it I'll read it more clearly. sweatdrop ) There are sects of Buddhism called "Free Land Buddhism" that believe in "salvation". If salvation is the problem, then the problem is solved with them. But is it God, or Christ who saves us? The father, or the son? I would say that a safer bet is the father, as it is he who is the universe, and is all. Christ was, at the very most, a vessel of the father, and in my interpretation, simply a man closer to the father than many others. Everyone tries to be good? Look at capitalism. Look at what we do, in the great country of America- We oppress the lower class for monetary gain, we start wars for trade routes and corporate contracts, we set up dictatorships to profit from slave labor- This is goodness? No, we are good when people are watching, and indeed, many people ARE truly good. However, in the human condition, there is want and greed, and that greed causes evil because, in some people's eyes, the money and power is worth it. That is where evil starts. Greater original, maybe. But remember the ripples in the pond- That corporate greed, for example, and the subsequent layoff leaves people out of work. These jobless individuals sometimes turn to crime, or join the military. The military, largely influenced by corporate goals, begins a war in some middle eastern country. The country collapses, the military sets up a dictator through a faked election, and the country begins making sneakers through child labor for the profit of Nike. Now, we have thousands suffering for the benefit of a few CEO's. That is how Karma works. That is how the balance is lost. That is what happens, in real life, and is happening now. The Father because He sent the Son, but in a way more the Son because Jesus shed blood for us, which is what frees us. There's power in blood (I think that's explained in the OT when the Lord instructs them on how to make their sacrifices). And who starts out wanting to do harm? No one I know. There's many self-centered people (which is why we need to make God our center instead), but most people would definitely choose to help other people, especially if no harm came to them because of it. Do you know anyone who wants to see children starve? Who would work to promote evil? Especially any child or toddler? We have to look for the roots of human nature in children, and I don't know of any young child who wants evil prevail at the end of a bedtime story. What does that tell you? Karma doesn't work, because it should be evident in the roots of human nature (a child should want to do harm as much as he wants to do good), and it's not. Good prevails as our desire, which means good was the original power. I would like to point out that i know several children who do not do or want good things.. they only want good things to happen to them... But they don't desire evil do they?
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:03 pm
College Professors are the most useless people in soceity, liberal pricks that complain about wordly affairs and talk like they have a part in the world, that's the reason people don't go to college, they don't want to hear your view, there their to get the class done and finish on with their lives,.......... scream Action Basterd would know what to do
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:32 pm
The Ginger Dude College Professors are the most useless people in soceity, liberal pricks that complain about wordly affairs and talk like they have a part in the world, that's the reason people don't go to college, they don't want to hear your view, there their to get the class done and finish on with their lives,.......... scream Action Basterd would know what to do
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